Alistair Overeem License Denied By NSAC, Unable To Reapply For 9 Months

[Crunchie]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/24...nth-suspension

Alistair Overeem was in person at today's Nevada Athletic Commission meeting to address his positive test for elevated testosterone levels at his random pre-fight drug test for UFC 146. His item was last on a thirty-six item agenda.

In a bit of an interesting twist, two fighters ahead of Overeem had tested positive for banned substances and tried different (and ineffective) defenses. Shawn Fitzsimmons claimed that he was on a program for low testosterone but never went to an endocrinologist, and when called out on having tried to stop using a month out from the fight and "cycle off" he was suspended 9 months, lost his $1,500 win bonus, was fined 30% of his show money and had the win changed to a no contest. The same punishment (without the win bonus which wasn't applicable) was given to boxer Javier Flores who claimed he had taken what he thought were vitamin B-12 injections.

With the table set that the commission wasn't exactly in the mood to deal with shady stories about why positive tests had been returned.

Star-divide

It was made clear from the start that Overeem and the rest of the UFC 146 press conference participants were told they would be tested and needed to stick around for the testing. As soon as the presser was over, Overeem attempted to run out of the building before being stopped and told it was going to be treated as a positive test. His excuse was that he was going to an interview, then he changed the story to that he was going to speak to his attorney about his battery case and then changed again that he was avoiding being served by Golden Glory with papers.

When it was time to pick one of the stories, Overeem's lawyer went with the story that they were trying to avoid being served with papers by Golden Glory.

Overeem's lawyer continued with the story of Overeem being given an anti-inflammatory and then said that he still had a vial of the medicine he was given and that it turns out that the vial had "B-12, Texamethazone, keterolec and testosterone." The lawyer asserted that it was not known by Overeem that testosterone was in the injection and that it is behind what caused the spike in his testosterone level.

A motion for a 45-60 day continuance by Alistair's team was denied when it was determined that there was no benefit to the fighter or the public, resulting in Overeem being questioned about the string of injuries he claimed to have suffered that made him need to get the injection to begin with. Overeem also clarified that he did not ask what was in the injection beyond what little he was told by the doctor. That is one of the key points to the hearing as the athlete is the one responsible for anything put in their body. "I didn't know" being an acceptable excuse opens the door for every fighter who ever tests positive for anything going forward.

Questioning of Overeem concluded and the questioning of the doctor (Dr. Molina) who injected Overeem began. The already generally negative outlook for Overeem got worse during the questioning as Molina had his story change, couldn't pronounce the names of the medications in the injection and put on a classically bad performance that seemed as though it would doom Overeem.

In the end, the commission said that they feel Overeem is a championship level fighter, and the commission doesn't feel that he "juices" with steroids, but the burden is on the fighter to understand what is put into their body. They denied his license due to the failed drug test which normally would carry with it a 12 month period before he could re-apply. The commission did feel that reducing that to nine months from the March 27th test date was appropriate with the caveat that Overeem not apply to fight anywhere else during that nine month period.

This was felt to be the most appropriate course of action given that they didn't feel that he was using it for performance enhancing purposes but did test positive. He will be able to re-apply around the end of December which effectively ends his 2012 campaign without a single fight.

We will have much more reaction in the coming hours and days to this incredible and bizarre hearing.

[Crunchie]

Here's the exert from the hearing

- Overeem is up now. He is welcomed by the commission.

- Overeem tested positive for 14:1 (as we knew). Overeem tried to flee the building at time of random test, jumped into a car and sped off despite being told that he had to stay to give a sample. Claims he "didn't realize" he needed to stick around and was going to an interview, then changed story that he was going to talk about his battery case, then changed story again that he was going to try to avoid Golden Glory serving him papers. UFC says they made it entirely clear that he needed to stick around.

- Overeem's lawyer goes with the "avoiding Golden Glory making a public spectacle" version of the excuse.

- They requested a 45-60 day continuance.

- Lawyer says doctor gave Overeem a vial of medication in Dallas, Overeem took one injection from vial and still has one. They're going to present the vial for examination but on it it says it is an anti-inflammatory.

- B-12, Texamethazone, keterolec and testosterone were in the injection according to lawyer

- Dr. Hector Molina is the doctor who the lawyer claims reached the "medical conclusion" that he could alleviate the pain and suffering of Overeem through multiple injuries with these injections.

- Commission asks what Overeem and representatives need that they don't have today and why they claim they need a continuance. Laywer says he's reading about testosterone and thinks that they can get experts who say the injection could have caused the spike.

- Commission says that they could have 5 experts tell them it could have caused the spike, but there still was a spike. And they must consider that most of all.

- Lawyer claims that they had Overeem tested again but don't have the results yet and question why it took so long before he came up with a reason for the elevated levels.

- Commission asks what guarantee there is that Overeem would come back if granted a continuance. Lawyer says he will because he wants to continue fighting and that the lawyer will go get him if he has to.

- Overeem says he won't take any fights, will work with the commission to prove that he is a "fair fighter" and will not apply in any other state for a license.

- Commission says they rarely grant continuances and can't see a benefit to granting one.

- Continuance is going to be denied as there is no benefit to the fighter or otherwise, 45 days makes no difference and it's in the public's interest to bring the matter to end rather than drag it out.

- Overeem is being questioned about his injuries. Says he hurt his foot and ribs around the Werdum fight.

- Injuries continued to be aggravated through the Lesnar fight and Overeeem discussed that he was very sore for a long time. Got massages and ice for his ribs leading up to the Brock fight.

- Overeem questioning continues, basically a lot of asking about his injuries and if he took anything to deal with them. He is questioned for looking away after saying he didn't take anything for his ribs before the Lesnar fight. He explains that English isn't his first language and he was just thinking.

- Overeem continues to say he did not know the injection included testosterone.

- Overeem says he was told to take a shot a week (after getting one in the office) but the pain was gone. He took the second shot and took one later on when he got sore again.

- Overeem says that he was never informed by the UFC that he would be tested and was not running from the test after the press conference. That means that he's either saying Keith Kizer is a liar or that the UFC's claims to the NSAC that they informed the fighters are a lie. Iffy choice there by Overeem.

- Overeem says Tre Telligman is who told him to see Dr. Molina.

- Overeem says he isn't upset with Dr. Molina as he had no ill intention and was just trying to help. If he'd done it on purpose he'd be upset.

- Again saying that no one informed him that there would be a test, which is why he left the press conference in a hurry when it was done rather than sticking around for a test.

- They stop questioning Overeem, now moving on to questioning Dr. Molina who says he has done testing for prior combat events and met Overeem once during a Strikeforce event but did not have a doctor/patient relationship at that point.

- Molina says Overeem said he had rib pain and thigh pain as well as left elbow pain and x-rays were negative.

- Molina says that Overeem told him he'd taken Motrin (remember, earlier Overeem said he never takes any pain killer including Tylenol..etc)

- Molina says that there was not enough testosterone in the injections to create an anabolic benefit for Overeem.

- Molina continuing to say the testosterone would only help Alistair heal, not give him an advantage.

- Molina continues saying he never told Overeem that there was testosterone in the injection.

- A lot of circling the same questions over and over. What WAS Overeem told? What DID the doctor give him? What DID he say on the forms that Overeem was given? And Overeem was NOT told that? ..etc.

- Molina now admitting that he prescribed non-steroidal options for Overeem and then mixed up the injection in house. Molina also doesn't know the names of things he was injecting which is...scary.

- Doctor's story is starting to fall apart as it changes a bit at a time and as he is reminded he is under oath he stumbles and gets silent. This is a disaster.

- In the end, it's important to remember that EVERYTHING is Overeem's responsibility. He admitted that he never asked Molina what was in the shot, Molina never really told him. "I didn't know what was in the injection" will not be seen as an appropriate defense.

- Overeem clarifies that, of course he takes motrin. He's a human being who does take over-the-counter medications, but not shots or more "serious" pain killers.

- UFC staff member clarifies that the camps were told that fighters could not leave, Overeem was not told directly but his camp was informed not to leave.

- After a brief recess we're back and Overeem's lawyer says the only options being considered should be a conditional license or a short suspension since Overeem didn't get a benefit from the testosterone levels.

- Lawyer says that Overeem was injured entertaining thousands of people and that shouldn't be overlooked. He should not be punished harshly because of how "honest" he has been.

- Overeem says that he gave up his title shot because he was no longer credible due to the media reports.

- Commission member says he believes Overeem today but that the overriding responsibility and burden is on an athlete to know what is in his body.

- "From what I've seen of Overeem he's a champion, he fights like a champion and I have no reason to think he 'juices' himself with steroids. But I do know that I have a positive test in front of me." says commission member

- They're making it sound like a good enough case was not made for a conditional license. Motion is being made to make him wait 9 months rather than a full year.

- NSAC saying 9 month period before he can reapply for a license would have to include the fighter not applying anywhere else for another fight. Around December 26-27th would be the end of Overeem's suspension from applying for a new license.

[Neo_Pop]

Fuck these guys.

[Snake]

What a bunch of pussies the NSAC are! PED abusers should be banned for up to 2 years and increased to 3 years if it's a second offence and then banned for life if popped for a 3rd time. I understand he wasn't licensed by them at the time of testing but at least used the opportunity to demonstrate that you will be severe on cheaters by denying him a license for at least 18 months to 2 years. Make it not worth it to be a cheater.

[ZiLLa]

This sounds sooo absurd on both sides.

[killemall]

Doctor's history who testified for overeem

The Texas State Board of Medical Examiners has fined Dr. Hector Oscar Molina of Colleyville $25,000 and placed restrictions on his practice for three years for prescribing controlled substances and dangerous drugs over the Internet without establishing "a proper physician-patient relationship."

Molina, who has a general practice in Irving, will be prohibited from prescribing Schedule II and III controlled substances, among them medications such as morphine, codeine, methadone, oxydone (Percodan), hydrocodone (Vicodin) and anabolic steroids. Controlled substances are drugs with a high potential for abuse and which may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.

Molina must also establish a proper physician-patient relationship with all patients in his practice, which requires him to "personally and physically see, examine, diagnose and treat every patient in person."
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The action was initiated when a complaint was filed with the medical board by a Colorado man who received drugs prescribed by Molina from the unregulated Internet pharmacy, prescriptionconsultation.com - prescription. It is no longer operating under that name.

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According to the state medical board, Molina, who was licensed in Texas in August 1997, violated the proper physician-patient relationship because he prescribed the drugs without having examined the patient, taken a proper history, acquired adequate medical records and performed adequate tests.

[killemall]

[Crunchie]

Doctor's history who testified for overeem

Wow, here I was impressed that he brought the Doctor, now this.

Scary that this guy is licensed.

[nakedrear]

What a bunch of pussies the NSAC are! PED abusers should be banned for up to 2 years and increased to 3 years if it's a second offence and then banned for life if popped for a 3rd time. I understand he wasn't licensed by them at the time of testing but at least used the opportunity to demonstrate that you will be severe on cheaters by denying him a license for at least 18 months to 2 years. Make it not worth it to be a cheater.

It's true. They hold a pretty soft stance. If they were serious about getting PEDs out, they would drop the hammer. There isn't much incentive not to roid when most fighters are able to get away with it for most their career, and if they are caught, they know it's hardly the end of the world.

You have to figure out what you are trying to say. Is it, "PEDs are a disgrace to the sport" or "We wish guys wouldn't use PEDs"? Cause right now, it's the latter.

[oddtopsy]

Doctor's history who testified for overeem

HAHA the REEM just got the entire Lions Den dealer busted

also, FUCK where can I find doctors like this?

[Crunchie]

HAHA the REEM just got the entire Lions Den dealer busted

also, FUCK where can I find doctors like this?

Ask the one tit wonder

[soulcrusher]

Ask the one tit wonder

LOL, That is what me and my brother started calling him the first time I seen him fight which was a one sided ass wooping at the hands of Vitor!!!

[Crunchie]

LOL, That is what me and my brother started calling him the first time I seen him fight which was a one sided ass wooping at the hands of Vitor!!!

He should fight Nick Newell

[soulcrusher]

He should fight Nick Newell

Does he only have one tit??

[Crunchie]

Does he only have one tit??

No but it would be fairly even