Gasoline...

[oddtopsy]

Public transport, moving closer to work, bikes, scooters, foot power, electric cars etc etc

it's all there, but people are more worried about the inconvenience

none of that shit works when your city is 1,000,000+ people

[Beets]

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[Beets]

but he's still a tree hugging faggot

[oddtopsy]

if you live in phoenix without a car, you are fucked

[cam]

i have never used public transit

[ninjashoes]

dont

[killemall]

Some of my fat friends who live close to office have already started using bicycles. Those things are fucking expensive nowadays though.

[cam]

if you live in phoenix without a car, you are fucked

no public transit? or just awfull to use

[Beets]

you bake in the oven like temperatures

[cam]

i always say my body is not built for heat cause I'm a scot

Anything beyond 25degrees and I dont like to work outside. What kind of heat do you get beets? My fair skin burns like crazy thus the not built for heat thingy.

[Beets]

25 is pretty much shorts and pool weather

its summer now and the av temp has been 16C for the last 3 weeks

definitely handle the cold and wet better than the heat

[cam]

amen

[ItBurnzWhenIP]

Phoenix's public transit is limited to begin with, ridiculously inconvenient because of the set-up of Phoenix and how big the city is, and ghetto as fuck. It's the same situation as Sacramento but magnified in all levels.

[oddtopsy]

Phoenix's public transit is limited to begin with, ridiculously inconvenient because of the set-up of Phoenix and how big the city is, and ghetto as fuck. It's the same situation as Sacramento but magnified in all levels.

and expensive as FUCK

over $5 for an all day bus pass, thats more than fucking gas