I was wondering if MMA is a mere fighting art or a martial art and if there's any difference between these two.
Traditional Martial Arts have a spiritual aspect which MMA seems to lack. Also some of them have weapons. Kalaripayattu encompasses some of healing arts and massages in its art.
Thoughts?
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I would say MMA is a mixture of martial arts because you will always need to train in specific area's to become good
you will always need to have a seperate wrestling coach, bjj coach, muay thai coach, boxing coach and even alot of guys are doing Judo now
It is just too much for anyone to truly be an expert in all of these areas.
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What I'm saying is that MMA is JUST a fighting art. Martial Arts, traditionally, I think have some spiritual and healing aspects.
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I think it depends on your mindset. Imo anything can have "some spiritual and healing aspects",it's up to the individual to let what they're doing take them to that place.So,in that,i suppose one could safely say "yes" to MMA being "a martial art in traditional sense",but again,it's the individual's choice to use it as such. It would be interesting to know which fighters take MMA to a spiritual level and which only train in the "physical realm" or whatever.Originally Posted by amanamagus
I've heard royce talk about philosophical/spiritual aspects of martial arts in general which apply to MMA too.
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MMA is not a style
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MMA is a combination of the styles and is not a style in itself. The Muay Thai, Judo, etc... are martial arts in the traditional sense. IMO I considered it just a name to incorporate all these tactics.
Brings up an interesting debate really of what in modern times is a martial art. If you are not training with the most advanced weapons of your day is your art really 'martial' or just a sport. It's like the whole ninjutsu thing. Definitely a wide and great body of martial techniques from the past and I"m sure the old time ninja were the Special Ops folks of the 16th century as they were using the cutting edge weapons of the time. Those using the cutting edge weapons of our era would be those in the Navy Seals and other high level Spec Ops. To me they are the only ones doing 'martial arts'. the rest of us are doing some sport that has self defense aspects to it.
MMA can teach you the same things traditional martial arts can, it depends on how you process it.
Its especially good because it bypasses the unecessary mysticism while still teaching you what it means to act tough and what it means to be tough.
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mma is more of a science than art
imo its still an art as well as a science becuse your expressing yourself physically
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I'd consider the term MMA to mean Martial Art. It's just not a traditional Martial Art. Here's my two cents on the subject:
Mixed Martial Arts is often referred to as Free Style Fighting because it is obviously a mixture of various styles. The term Martial Art refers to any fighting system that is used in warfare. The Marine Corp uses various forms of Martial Arts and encompasses it their MCMAP training. They train in Strikes, Chokes, Holds, Throws, Ground Fighting, Knife techniques, etc.
I was under the impression that TMAs had incorporated healing techniques and morality into the system. Like Tai Chi, I've heard relaxes you. Kalaripayattu teaches you various massages and remedies to heal yourself.
MMA seems to lack that. But it is still under development.
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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Also, you might ask if only oriental martial arts qualify as 'traditional'. Personally I would say that e.g. Pancration is also a genuine martial art, but as far as I know it didn't come with a body of philosophy and healing.
On the topic of the original question, I would say that MMA is not a martial art if the instruction doesn't focus specifically on self-defense (and focuses exclusively or largely on sports and competition). From this point of view, I wouldn't call Judo a martial art either.
Hello guys, I am just wondering that why most of the fighters are just using judo, kick boxing and boxing techniques, is Mix Martial Arts means a variation of style? I want to see a real action a real mix martial arts
It seem as though submission has become the most popular method of match winning. Judo, BJJ and other disciplines that focus on submission-take downs are dominating. Look back a while to Pride and the original Octagon. There is truly "mixed" fighting. M-1 is still a haven for the unorthodox and untangled.
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