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Let's start with a list of right-wing media, journalist and commentators, TV/radio personalities that hate Trump.

Glenn Beck, radio host

Michael Berry, radio host

Brent Bozell, conservative activist

Jay Caruso, RedState

Steve Deace, radio host

Erick Erickson, writer

David French, writer at National Review

Jon Gabriel, editor-in-chief, Ricochet.com

Jonah Goldberg, writer

Ben Howe, RedState writer

Matt Kibbe, former FreedomWorks CEO

Bill Kristol, The Weekly Standard editor

Mark Levin, radio host (then he switched) can't be trusted.

Dana Loesch, radio, TV host and writer (then he switched) can't be trusted.

David McIntosh, Club for Growth president

Tim Miller, Our Principles PAC

Katie Packer, chairwoman of Our Principles PAC

Katie Pavlich, Townhall editor and Hill columnist

Brittany Pounders, conservative writer

Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post conservative blogger

Sarah Rumpf, former BreitBart contributor

Mark Salter, writer

Tara Setmayer, CNN analyst

Ben Stein, actor and political commentator

Charlie Sykes, radio host

Brad Thor, writer

Peter Wehner, New York Times contributor

George Will, writer (fucking cunt)

Rick Wilson, Republican strategist

Ben Shapiro

They got people on FOX news that hate Trump. Trump doesn't have all right-wingers on his side, he doesn't even have the entire FOX News network on his side. The people that supported Bush and Clinton have joined forces to take out Trump.
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Here's a list of countries that are openly boycotting Israel.

United States:
America is Israel’s strongest ally and home to the largest Jewish population outside of the Jewish State. But the BDS movement has gained some traction stateside, particularly in academia.

In the last year both the American Studies Association and the Association for Asian-American Studies have endorsed an academic boycott of Israel, which calls on US universities not to cooperate or collaborate with Israeli academic institutions.

There have also been instances of American musicians boycotting Israel. To cite just one example, which no doubt upset Israeli rap fans, Snoop Doggy Dog canceled a gig in Ramat Gan in 2008 after pressure from pro-boycott activists.

European Union:
Home to over 500 million inhabitants, the European Union is Israel’s largest trading partner. But in 2013 the EU published new guidelines for trade between its member states and Israel. The guidelines forbade “all 28 member states” from “any funding, cooperation, awarding of scholarships, research funds or prizes to anyone residing in the Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.”

In addition, the European Parliament did not renew a contract with private security company G4S after BDS campaigners complained that the company’s work with the Israeli prison service made them complicit in the detention of Palestinian political prisoners.

United Kingdom:
The UK has strong culpability when it comes to the mess in the Middle East. The Brits promised a Jewish State to the Jews in 1917 and self-determination to the Arabs in the then British colony, before removing its presence prior to the end of the 1948 War for Independence.

Now many British organizations are involved in BDS, most notably the charity OxFam, which parted ways with Johansson because it is “opposed to all trade from Israeli settlements.” The anti-famine nonprofit previously axed “Sex and the City’s” Charlotte, also known as Kristin Davis, as an ambassador because she had taken a job with Ahava Dead Sea Laboratories, which has a West Bank factory.

The second largest trade union in the UK, Unison, suspended relations with their Israeli comrades, the Histradut, in support of BDS in 2012. In 2010 the Methodist Church of Britain voted to boycott Israeli-produced goods and services from the West Bank because of Israel’s “illegal occupation of Palestinian lands.”

Meanwhile, the Co-operative Group, which has a diverse range of retail businesses—most notably banking and supermarkets—has a policy of boycotting companies that source produce from Israeli settlements in the West Bank.

Musicians from the UK have been among the most prominent boycotters of Israel with Roger Waters a recent outspoken example. And in 2010, Elvis Costello cancelled concerts in Israel as “a matter of instinct and conscience.”

And Britain’s most popular cultural export since the English language, the Premier League, has been linked to BDS with Chelsea’s signing in 2014 of Egyptian midfielder Mohamed Salah, who refused to shake hands with Israeli footballers under pressure from “extreme groups” in his home country.

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The Netherlands
The $200 billion Dutch pension fund PGGM recently decided to divest from the five largest Israeli banks because of their involvement in Palestinian territory.

Denmark:
In a country known for its bacon and butter, this year Danske Bank, Denmark’s largest bank, declared Israeli Bank Hapoalim unkosher. Danske Bank added Bank Hapoalim to a blacklist of companies in which it will not invest because of the Israeli bank’s funding of settlement construction. The Danish bank has also divested from Africa Israel Investments and Danya Cebus because of the companies’ involvement in building settlements.

Romania:
In 2012, the Romanian government refused to allow construction workers from the country to work on building settlements in the West Bank or any territory considered under international law to be occupied Palestinian lands.

Norway:
The government of Norway’s pension fund was one of 13 European finance institutions to exclude the Israeli military technology company Elbit from their portfolios. The Norwegian Ministry of Finance also excluded Africa Israel Investments and Danya Cebus from its pension fund. And Norwegian pharmaceutical retail chain VITA in 2012 stopped “all sales of products originating from settlements in occupied territories,” including Ahava beauty products.

Japan:
In 2012, the general agent for Ahava Dead Sea Laboratories in Japan DaitoCrea announced they would no longer be distributing Ahava products manufactured in the Israeli West Bank settlement of Mitzpe Shalem.

Canada:
Of all world leaders, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is probably the most outspoken friend of Israel, where he received a hero’s welcome in January 2014. But not all Canadians share his views and in 2011 the Hudson Bay Company succumbed to pressure from the BDS movement and stopped selling Ahava cosmetics.

South Africa:
BDS campaigners like to liken Israel to Apartheid South Africa, where sanctions and boycotts helped to bring about the end of the racist old regime. Although the parallel is by no means accurate, South African academics were among the most prominent supporters of BDS, and the University of Johannesburg severed ties with Ben-Gurion University in 2011.

http://jspacenews.com/top-10-countries-boycott-israel/

Those that tactic sound familiar?
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Bottom line, we give money to Israel because of biblical prophesy. In the bible there is prophesy that refers to three nations believed to Israel, the US and Britain. It prophesizes that these nations will turn their backs on God and that each will fall within a month of each other. France and Japan are not in the prophesy.

The evil forces of this world know the same prophesy. They want all three nations to turn from God and fall. But they believe their side will be victorious,. If I remember correctly, they are what Malachi Martin called, perfectly deceived.
Yes there is activism and boycotting of Israel due to support for human rights and the fact that they are violating the Geneva convention by committing a genocide. I am and was always well aware of it because I try to do my part and make people aware through my show and social media.

For the most part what happens in gaza is still very much hidden, covered up and distractions are used to hide the killing that is happening. Especially in America itself, the media is somewhat less biased in Europe depending where you are but those areas and the EU itself are controlled by the worlds elite, same people who are behind Israel.

I had a similar perspective as you regarding Trump, I am sure you remember, until I jumped off the right vs. left manipulation train.

What you are saying is a contradiction. Think about it.

You are saying Trump is against the elite yet he supports Israel and gives them more money. His father was tied to Zionist organizations in New York.

Israel was started by the Rothschilds. The same people who own all our corporations and media.

How is Trump some rebel against the establishment aka the super rich bankers, when he actively supports Israel?

What you are seeing is fake controlled opposition. They have conservatives and liberals at eachothers throats 24/7 because at the end of the day we are all getting screwed over by THEM.

I am not blaming "the jews" either. The Zionists are not real Jews and not all Jewish people support Zionism, in fact many are totally against it and protest in New York and Tel Aviv.

In Revelations, which you mentioned. There is a Synagogue of Satan and "false jews" mentioned. These are the super rich elite bankers who hide behind Judaism and who are actively bringing about the last days. They would have never let Trump in the whitehouse if they did not want him there,

YOU KNOW THIS!
 
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Support of Israel to me is not a litmus test. If you ask the average person is they think Israel should exist and they say yes, their opinion will coincide with the belief of a lot people on a lot of different levels including Zionist and Evangelicals. That person may or may not know why (prophesy) those others believe Israel needs to exist.

What I see from Trump is simple. He wants you to have a job, make money and enjoy it. He also wants to preserve the country and not have it turn into a third world hell hole, where the government controls everyone through their wallet and their belly. It seems to me that’s as far as he thinks.

Trump has shown to follow the globalist agenda like when he was following the advice of Gary Cohn, General McMaster and his son-in-law, etc. But he got rid of two of the three. I know he still has more around him, but is he listening to them of shooting their ideas down?

The conservative elites are not with Trump, never have been and still aren't. They were with Bush and Cruz during the primaries and Hillary during the election. Look at the Cohen case. The Judge and defense attorney are Clinton stooges and the prosecutor a Bush stooge. Two of the families that have presided over the US for the past 30 years are both teaming to take down Trump. The persecution of Trump is not theater and I rather have him than a Bush or a Clinton stooge.
 
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Support of Israel to me is not a litmus test. If you ask the average person is they think Israel should exist and they say yes, their opinion will coincide with the belief of a lot people on a lot of different levels including Zionist and Evangelicals. That person may or may not know why (prophesy) those others believe Israel needs to exist.

What I see from Trump is simple. He wants you to have a job, make money and enjoy it. He also wants to preserve the country and not have it turn into a third world hell hole, where the government controls everyone through their wallet and their belly. It seems to me that’s as far as he thinks.

Trump has shown to follow the globalist agenda like when he was following the advice of Gary Cohn, General McMaster and his son-in-law, etc. But he got rid of two of the three. I know he still has more around him, but is he listening to them of shooting their ideas down?

The conservative elites are not with Trump, never have been and still aren't. They were with Bush and Cruz during the primaries and Hillary during the election. Look at the Cohen case. The Judge and defense attorney are Clinton stooges and the prosecutor a Bush stooge. Two of the families that have presided over the US for the past 30 years are both teaming to take down Trump. The persecution of Trump is not theater and I rather have him than a Bush or a Clinton stooge.
I don't disagree with any of that Neo.

I don't think I am smarter than anyone or anything like that. I just know the truth after spending years down the rabbit hole, that our world is actually under the control of Lucifer Morningstar who is the prince of lies.

We are literally lost in a web of his lies. We are all manipulated and brainwashed.

Zionists = Luciferians, Synagogue of Satan
Catholics = Luciferians, Church of Satan
Freemasons = Luciferians, at the highest levels only

and more too such as the New Age Occultists, The Music Industry etc

There are no fucking aliens, those are just demonic entities playing with peoples minds and spreading Alien Deception Propaganda.

Fake aliens are coming and so is the Anti-Christos!
 

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Ok youre off the deep end here ninja. I call it more like neo sees it. Trump has been doing things his way which has pissed off a lot of people. Those people are now fucking him over. These people are the ones that actually run the government of which trump is just the latest puppet. But hes being a naughty puppet.
THe jew thing is probably as simple as a deal made over votes and american action in israel.
IF he hadnt made that deal he would be getting the full nazi picture painted right now.

LOok at corbyn in the uk press. Its fucking ridiculous.

SO the deal is people who control the majority of the media write as much stupid shit ridiculing everything he does and some of the shit sticks.

The problem they have is 60% of the population now distrust the media and look for propoganda. So hopefully trumpy gets away with it. If he does though he is probably getting whacked.

UNless he cuts a good deal and gets back in with key people. Because at the end of the day its all about money and power remaining in the correct hands.
 
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Ok youre off the deep end here ninja. I call it more like neo sees it. Trump has been doing things his way which has pissed off a lot of people. Those people are now fucking him over. These people are the ones that actually run the government of which trump is just the latest puppet. But hes being a naughty puppet.
THe jew thing is probably as simple as a deal made over votes and american action in israel.
IF he hadnt made that deal he would be getting the full nazi picture painted right now.

LOok at corbyn in the uk press. Its fucking ridiculous.

SO the deal is people who control the majority of the media write as much stupid shit ridiculing everything he does and some of the shit sticks.

The problem they have is 60% of the population now distrust the media and look for propoganda. So hopefully trumpy gets away with it. If he does though he is probably getting whacked.

UNless he cuts a good deal and gets back in with key people. Because at the end of the day its all about money and power remaining in the correct hands.
The Rothschilds control Israel.

The Rothschilds are Illuminati.

Maybe Trump did make a deal to become president but then so did Obama and everyone else.

This idea that Trump is against the Elite just isn’t true. The left and right are controlled and this is manipulation to push us towards socialism with the next wave of young voters.

Don’t underestimate Luciferians!
 

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Ok - all presidents make deals its how they get support. The trick is to somehow juggle all the balls without pissing off an important one.
I Dont believe trump gives a fuck about anyone but himself but the angry white man is one of those balls he is juggling
SOcialism isnt necessarily a bad thing. Capitalism and the american dream are a bag of shite which is blatantly obvious by the 5% that control all the money.
 

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The government borrow against the potential value of you and the money you will generate. That is why they are happy to accept immigrants as it ups their borrowing power. The finer points of how that works
out are problems for another day.
 

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IF you look at the cost of whatever socialist healthcare scheme costs and then compare it to how much is wasted on arms... which is really just money for that 5%
 

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I See everything like the school playground and the general public are like the teachers. The teachers ultimately hold the power but are pretty much ignored/ dont know whats going on in the background.

A Lot like work

SO why would it be any different in government?

THink of your school/ work life and the deals that are done and cut on the side that arent 100% legit. Same shit bigger scale. There is no enemy just how you paint your side of the story when youre pulled into the headmasters office.
 
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Ok - all presidents make deals its how they get support. The trick is to somehow juggle all the balls without pissing off an important one.
I Dont believe trump gives a fuck about anyone but himself but the angry white man is one of those balls he is juggling
SOcialism isnt necessarily a bad thing. Capitalism and the american dream are a bag of shite which is blatantly obvious by the 5% that control all the money.
Socialism is absolutely a bad thing. I worked for everything in my life and I refuse to share with lazy poor people who want free shit.
 

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See this is where youre thinking about it wrong.

ITs not about sharing your semen covered bmx.

ITs about a safety net for people in your society. Paying taxes and getting healthcare, unemployment support, higher education etc etc. And it should be equally spread. So all your multi billion dollar companies shoud be paying back into society some of the profit they made selling cheap plastic shit.

ANd thats where youre thinking about it incorrectly. Its about taxing that top 5% appropriately and putting that money into improving the standards of living in your country.

SO the people in those 5% spread shit about how communism failed blah blah blah and how lazy people want to take your irrelevant tiny amount of money, while sitting on billions in a caymans island account paying fuck all back in.

SO the rich get richer and you get to keep your peanuts while the poor try and steal them
 
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Now i know where youre coming from. And i know people that havent worked for generations. Like whole families that live on benefits forever. Brought up in that shit. Plus a lot of people that became junkies. So i understand when people say fuck those lazy cunts.

But.

YOu cant change that shit just with the stick. Cunts have nothing anyway. Nothing to lose makes people unpredictable. Im interested in this norway thing or whatever scandic country who are saying instead of benefits everyone gets a basic living allowance and then what you do on top of that is up to you.

THat seems a good way to go. Dont pressure people into some shitty i hate my job life. Let them find out what they enjoy and excel at it.

COuple that with a bit of discipline for fucking the system and i reckon it could work quite well
 
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See this is where youre thinking about it wrong.

ITs not about sharing your semen covered bmx.

ITs about a safety net for people in your society. Paying taxes and getting healthcare, unemployment support, higher education etc etc. And it should be equally spread. So all your multi billion dollar companies shoud be paying back into society some of the profit they made selling cheap plastic shit.

ANd thats where youre thinking about it incorrectly. Its about taxing that top 5% appropriately and putting that money into improving the standards of living in your country.

SO the people in those 5% spread shit about how communism failed blah blah blah and how lazy people want to take your irrelevant tiny amount of money, while sitting on billions in a caymans island account paying fuck all back in.

SO the rich get richer and you get to keep your peanuts while the poor try and steal them
all fantasy stuff that lures young folk but would never work in the real world
 
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Now i know where youre coming from. And i know people that havent worked for generations. Like whole families that live on benefits forever. Brought up in that shit. Plus a lot of people that became junkies. So i understand when people say fuck those lazy cunts.

But.

YOu cant change that shit just with the stick. Cunts have nothing anyway. Nothing to lose makes people unpredictable. Im interested in this norway thing or whatever scandic country who are saying instead of benefits everyone gets a basic living allowance and then what you do on top of that is up to you.

THat seems a good way to go. Dont pressure people into some shitty i hate my job life. Let them find out what they enjoy and excel at it.

COuple that with a bit of discipline for fucking the system and i reckon it could work quite well
anyone who gets a "basic living allowance" is a LOSER
 
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I worked for everything in my life and use my hard earned cash to fund things that I enjoy and believe in. I am living the American dream and the commies that want to take that away can suck my American hot dog.
 
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lazy kids raised by single mothers who were basically raised by the state want to stay funded by the state instead of learning to survive in a capitalist society...