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xhale 12-23-2006, 05:17 AM when you're trying to finish off an armbar, whats the best way to get the elbow joint closer to pelvis.
for example when your opponent is trying to break out of the armbar, and he kinda bend the elbow up to keep it from hyper extending, and then pulls it out.
I can FEEL like i almost have him finished off, but whats the best way to keep hi elbow just above the pelvis?
Just raise your hips??
this may seem like an odd question... any help is thankful!
Squirrel 12-23-2006, 05:22 AM I don't train in Jiu Jitsu but.... Pull on the arm and raise your hips??? That seems the most logical to me. Pulling and scooting a bit.
xhale 12-23-2006, 05:24 AM I don't train in Jiu Jitsu but.... Pull on the arm and raise your hips??? That seems the most logical to me. Pulling and scooting a bit.
yah i guess i need to practice pelvis thursting my chick... it might help me out.
SneAkiE WeAZuLTeeFF 12-23-2006, 05:26 AM yea i dont train under any bj practitioner i jus watch and read and practice with my dad. but id say just pull the arm and squeez/extend the legs as quickly as possible
SneAkiE WeAZuLTeeFF 12-23-2006, 05:27 AM ;265572']yah i guess i need to practice pelvis thursting my chick... it might help me out.
yes this is key to proper execution ability.
Slouch{ADR} 12-23-2006, 06:46 AM Its a lil more to it than that but that is the basic idea.
it all depends on the position your in b4 you pull and push your hips out.
pull on the arm and move your hips out to the side to get into position then push your hips up.
UrbanX 12-29-2006, 06:11 PM You want to be in deep with the elbow above your groin. Squeeze your thighs together (often overlooked), extend your hips. For example, if you're executing the armbar from the mount, start extending your hips right away, so that you actually end up falling on your back. You'll get the armbar before you hit the ground. Don't worry about breaking the opponent's arm. If you get it, they'll tap, and you let go halfway to the ground. If you think about sitting on your butt, this will create too much space. Remember that you want your opponent's thumb up (pointing away from your chest). If they turn their wrist, apply counter pressure in opposite direction from where their thumb is facing.
GCSD Fighter 12-30-2006, 06:55 PM You want to be in deep with the elbow above your groin. Squeeze your thighs together (often overlooked), extend your hips. For example, if you're executing the armbar from the mount, start extending your hips right away, so that you actually end up falling on your back. You'll get the armbar before you hit the ground. Don't worry about breaking the opponent's arm. If you get it, they'll tap, and you let go halfway to the ground. If you think about sitting on your butt, this will create too much space. Remember that you want your opponent's thumb up (pointing away from your chest). If they turn their wrist, apply counter pressure in opposite direction from where their thumb is facing.
That and use your calf to control your opponent's neck so he doesn't escape and stack you. I prefer not to cross my feet as control is essential.
boomboom 12-31-2006, 08:23 PM make sure you have an iron grip on the hand or glove before commiting yourself to the armbar. you could end up losing good position for nothing.
headwound 01-05-2007, 03:00 AM calf to controle the head and neck absolutley big in finishing off the armbar
dynamitemitch 01-05-2007, 07:03 PM personally i dont always use the calf to control the head, for an inverted armbar i cross my ankles to sqeeze my thighs together more. if they are stacking then i grab high on the arm, usually on the elbow then use the calf control.
SolitaryIndividual 01-05-2007, 11:05 PM i never cross my ankles on a straight armbar, it makes it too easy for your opponent to throw your legs off
dynamitemitch 01-06-2007, 02:20 AM i never cross my ankles on a straight armbar, it makes it too easy for your opponent to throw your legs off
I only cross in an inverted armbar and i find it helps in stretching out their body to finish off the armbar.
xhale 01-06-2007, 11:29 PM You want to be in deep with the elbow above your groin. Squeeze your thighs together (often overlooked), extend your hips. For example, if you're executing the armbar from the mount, start extending your hips right away, so that you actually end up falling on your back. You'll get the armbar before you hit the ground. Don't worry about breaking the opponent's arm. If you get it, they'll tap, and you let go halfway to the ground. If you think about sitting on your butt, this will create too much space. Remember that you want your opponent's thumb up (pointing away from your chest). If they turn their wrist, apply counter pressure in opposite direction from where their thumb is facing.
i guess the key to my technique was sinking the armbar deep above my groin..
especially since i was pissed this whole time for not being able to put a tall guy in an armbar.. i guess i was thinking it would be easier and i could have more space... but thats incorrect... the longer the arm the further in it has to be. but i nailed it 3 of 4 times on some lanky fucker
xhale 01-06-2007, 11:33 PM using your calf is just a preference.. and depends on when you need to or not to use it... i LOVE catching people with my leg right acorss the throat if im in the gaurd, i love the way it feels to nail them right in the throat with my leg and watch them hit the mat with me sinking in an armbar...
doped 01-09-2007, 04:32 AM you have to squeeze your knees and raise your hips
as far as getting closer i guess scoot your ass closer to them, or drill it more often so you can keep tighter
xhale 01-09-2007, 07:57 AM i realized i was making it harder on myself by just holding my opponents wrist rather than grabbing it from the elbow itself along with the forearm
doped 01-09-2007, 05:24 PM ;279754']i realized i was making it harder on myself by just holding my opponents wrist rather than grabbing it from the elbow itself along with the forearm
after i spin around for the arm bar i try to slide along the dude's arm when i fall for the tap
it keeps me as close as possible
Aiden 01-09-2007, 05:39 PM yeah when first getting the positioning for the armbar get in as close under the arm as possible with the pelvis area...grab ahold of forearm or even bicep of opponent when performing the move this will allow you to be as close to them as possible...as you start to fall into the armbar let their arm slide up through your hands until you get the wrist..If you are mount and grab their wrist and go for armbar you are creating alot of space and when you go to side to sink it in you will be putting yourself far away form their body.
pbturbo 02-03-2007, 04:42 AM Another nice technique for the guard armbar gi or no gi is over hooking one of their arms, the fulcrum your own arm, throw your leg over ( same side the arm is trapped) kind of rubber guardish
to avoid hurting the nuts, trap the arm tight inbetween the legs
Yeah squeeze your legs together, it makes the armbar way tighter.
graciegirl 02-04-2007, 08:36 AM you have to make sure their thumb is pointing up at the ceiling at all times
mmabiker 02-11-2007, 03:32 PM stretch the arm push with the hips & pull with your arms it generally hurts them
Do any of you guys shake your leg that is on your opponents face to break his grip when he tries to hold his hands together to avoid the armbar?
you have to make sure their thumb is pointing up at the ceiling at all times
Sorry to say but this advice isn't entirely true. What you need to do is make sure their thumb is pointing away from you. If you're doing an armbar like nog on cro cop you're not supposed to point their thumb to the ceiling but rather away from you.
ninjashoes 02-27-2007, 09:32 AM I usually try to armbar people in friendly wrestling matches but it never works
SolitaryIndividual 02-27-2007, 11:28 AM Sorry to say but this advice isn't entirely true. What you need to do is make sure their thumb is pointing away from you. If you're doing an armbar like nog on cro cop you're not supposed to point their thumb to the ceiling but rather away from you.
yeah i really dont ever even think about where the thumb is pointing anymore, its really easy to develop a sense of how to manipulate any joint to go in the opposite direction than they are meant. its common sense really.
SolitaryIndividual 02-27-2007, 11:30 AM Do any of you guys shake your leg that is on your opponents face to break his grip when he tries to hold his hands together to avoid the armbar?
yeah ive been shown that, and used it a few times
alpha82425 02-28-2007, 07:47 AM make sure u get his arm deep and make sure your hips are blocking his elbow...lift your hips and never cross your legs...if he get out of it look for a triangle or omopalata
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