go ahead... test me... i can counter any possible conspiricies of the USA NOT landing on the moon.

are you saying there was a moon landing or there wasnt?

pwnt

The moon landings were total bullshit. There is more evidence against it than for it. The inconsistencies are too numerous to mention right now but I too will contribute to this thread if anyone is a moon landing nuthugger.

I am a moonlanding nuthugger 'till I learn otherwise.

I am curious to see where this thread will go.

It has bigger implications than just who pwns who.

The things astronoughts left on the moon that you can see from a strong telescope. What explains that?

That would be some hard shit to fake....

i visited the moon in the summer. jonny cash took me there on a banana boat. its very yellow there. if what you say is true i was the first rhino-ape to take a piss their.

The moon landings were total bullshit. There is more evidence against it than for it. The inconsistencies are too numerous to mention right now but I too will contribute to this thread if anyone is a moon landing nuthugger.

Just mention one inconsistency then. Just one, that isn't easily debunkable with even an elementary understanding of basic science.

I'm waiting.

i say we did..

for example people say the flag should be staying up... it should fall down and not stay up like it does... and should not be swaying back and forth.


what people dont know is that the flag they used had springs in the middle of it to keep it up... and the reason it sways is becuase of the springs

I'm not retarded enough to think the moon landing was a fake, shit you can view stuff on the moon with a telescope

;254908']for example people say the flag should be staying up... it should fall down and not stay up like it does... and should not be swaying back and forth.


what people dont know is that the flag they used had springs in the middle of it to keep it up... and the reason it sways is becuase of the springs

Actually, there is a telescoping rod that projects at a 90º angle from the top of the flagpole that keeps the flag suspended. The flag does not sway (it wouldn't even if it had springs ???), the only time it appeared to move was when the astronauts were twisting the pole to get it set into the ground, it never moved when they weren't touching it.

I'm not retarded enough to think the moon landing was a fake, shit you can view stuff on the moon with a telescope

No, no you can't. There is no telescope in existence that is powerful enough to resolve objects as small as the rover, flag, module, etc, from as far a distance as the moon. We've actually photographed one of the apollo sites with the Hubble, and it's not even close to powerful enough to make out such small features.

Here are some photos of the Apollo 17 site as taken by hubble, along with one taken by an astronaut on the mission.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/136335main_image3_lg.jpg

I'm still waiting for a "hoax believer" to make his case...

and then i saw moons face, and im a believer....that was extremely diego but you got the point.

I will definately be responding to this thread but it will be long-winded so I have not done so yet. Wait for see.

;254906']i say we did..

I figured that you would back out of this. Pussy...

Your Judo throw is more believable.

According to NASA: Because of its smaller size, the Moon's gravity is one-sixth of the Earth's gravity, as we saw demonstrated by the giant leaps of the Apollo astronauts.

Ok then explain this, I guess gravity doesn't affect Moon Dirt or the person kicking it.

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There was a 3 hour vid on google.videos but it has been taken of.
Just to many mistakes revealed to make me a believer. Photo's worked, 3 shadows?! Spacecraft was very light and thin=>Van halen radiation should have killed the astronauts. Gravity doesn't seem to act the same all the time(on video). The cola bottle? And so on.

I figured that you would back out of this. Pussy...

Your Judo throw is more believable.

back out of what? my motive has been the same since the start of this thread..

i think you just couldnt think of anything else to say so you had to throw the judo joke out there... heh lame.

Actually, there is a telescoping rod that projects at a 90º angle from the top of the flagpole that keeps the flag suspended. The flag does not sway (it wouldn't even if it had springs ???), the only time it appeared to move was when the astronauts were twisting the pole to get it set into the ground, it never moved when they weren't touching it.



No, no you can't. There is no telescope in existence that is powerful enough to resolve objects as small as the rover, flag, module, etc, from as far a distance as the moon. We've actually photographed one of the apollo sites with the Hubble, and it's not even close to powerful enough to make out such small features.

Here are some photos of the Apollo 17 site as taken by hubble, along with one taken by an astronaut on the mission.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/136335main_image3_lg.jpg

I'm still waiting for a "hoax believer" to make his case...
I like this cooncat guy.

And this thread has me pointed even more in the moon landing was real direction.

I will definately be responding to this thread but it will be long-winded so I have not done so yet. Wait for see.

I can wait. I look forward to your response.



Just to many mistakes revealed to make me a believer. Photo's worked, 3 shadows?! Spacecraft was very light and thin=>Van halen radiation should have killed the astronauts. Gravity doesn't seem to act the same all the time(on video). The cola bottle? And so on.

Do I *really* have to debate someone who thinks "Van Halen" radiation is why we couldn't have gone to the moon? :suicide2:

Now I must admit that after "Jump" comes on the classic rock station for the 4th time on my drive to work, I sometimes feel like killing myself, but as deadly as Van Halen is, they weren't even around in when the apollo landings were taking place, so NASA didn't have to worry about them.

coon is pwnin this discussion. any counters squirrelbro?

lol at this shit. why would it be a work exactly?! far too much money etc invested for all that. One things been open minded but another is being paranoid.

i visited the moon in the summer. jonny cash took me there on a banana boat. its very yellow there. if what you say is true i was the first rhino-ape to take a piss their.


did you see the loch ness monster - he still owes me money

...still waiting for FlyingSquirrel to make his case.

did you see the loch ness monster - he still owes me money

Let me guess... $3.50?

yeah i wanna see some intense arguments made in here

Lee Harvey Oswald shot the moon. With a magic bullet.

theres some forums with 350 pages of people debating back and forth,

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/

great forum where I am a member

Lee Harvey Oswald shot the moon. With a magic bullet.

That's just what the government disinformation agents want you to think. It was actually two anonymous gunmen that shot the moon from the grassy knoll...with a magic bullet.

^^^

bahahaha

Since little or no debate on this topic has been present I chose to add this article to make the thread more on topic with conspiracies and counters.
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On the 15th of February, 2001, the American Fox TV Network broadcast a program called "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?" Mitch Pileggi, the X-Files actor, hosted this hour-long show, which claimed that NASA had faked the entire Apollo Moon project by filming it in a movie studio. This myth has a small but dedicated following - according to both a 1995 Time Poll and a 1999 Gallup Poll, about 6% of Americans do not believe that 12 astronauts walked on the Moon.

The hoax believers or conspiracy theorists cite all kinds of evidence.
For example, they point out that in all the photographs that supposedly show the astronauts on the airless surface of the Moon, you can't see the stars in the blck sky. The explanation is simple - even today's best film cannot simultaneously show both a very bright object (white spacesuit in sunlight) and a very faint object (star). Story Mugrave, an astronaut who has flown in the Space Shuttle six times, said that whenever he was outside the Shuttle in the bright sunlight, he couldn't see the stars either. But when the Shuttle was in the shadow of the Earth and his eyes had time to get adapted to the darker environment, he could then see the stars. As for the astronauts on the Moon, their short missions were all timed to land during the Moon's day (which lasts about 14 Earth days), so that they could see what they were doing.

The hoax believers also point out that in the photos, the shadows of the astronauts and their various pieces of scientific apparatus on the Moon's surface are not quite parallel. They should be parallel, these doubters claim, if lit only a single distant light source such as the Sun. This is true - but only if you have both a level surface and are operating in three dimensions. Once you have a rolling surface, and try to show 3-dimensionsal reality in a flat 2-dimensional photograph, the shadows will fall in different directions.

They conspiracy theorists also claim that the ripple seen in the still photos in the American flag on the Moon is proof that the movie was faked in a movie studio, because only moving air can make a flag ripple. This is silly for a few reasons. First, there is no wind in a movie studio - unless the wind machine is switched on. Second, if there was enough wind in a movie studio to ripple the flag, it would have also moved the dust at their feet. But most importantly and third, the ripple was an accident. The workshops at the Manned Spacecraft Center attached a nylon American flag to vertical and horizontal bars. These bars could telescope out, to save room when they were stored before they were used. Armstrong and Aldrin had trouble extending the horizontal telescoping rod, and could not pull it all the way out. This gave the flag a ripple. It "looked" realistic, so later Apollo crews intentionally left the horizontal rod partially retracted.

In fact, the wobbling flag that you can see in the movie helps prove that they were on the Moon. It wobbles because they have just set it up. And it continues to wobble for a little while in a very unusual fashion. This is because there is no air on the Moon that would quickly damp down the movement of the flag, and because of the gravity is one-sixth of our gravity on Earth.

But the incontrovertible proof that we did go to the Moon are the 382 kilograms of Moon rocks, that have been examined by thousands of independent geologists around the world. These rocks have been compared to a few dozen Moon rocks that were blasted by impacts off the Moon and that have landed in Antarctica, and to some Moon rocks that were recovered by robot Soviet explorers. These rocks all match.

They are very low in water, and riddled with strange tiny holes from millions of years of exposure to cosmic rays on the airless surface of the Moon. The Moon rocks are very different from Earth rocks, and could not be faked by any current technology. To make fake Moon rocks, we could have to squash them at about a thousand atmospheres, keep them at about 1,100 oC for a few years, and then cool them slowly for a few more years while keeping them under pressure all that time. And then, the NASA scientists back in 1969 would have to have worked out what new dating methods would be invented over the next 30 years, and add those elements in the exact proportions needed.

After looking at all the evidence, I prefer to follow the words of the 1937 Nobel Prize winner in Medicine, Albert Szent-Gyorgyi, "The Apollo flights demand that the word 'impossible' be struck from the scientific dictionary. They are the greatest encouragement for the human spirit."

© Karl S. Kruszelnicki Pty Ltd 2004.

That post will probably take care of most of the conspiricy theories that anybody will come up with.

im still undecided, someone sway me

that post above by rob looks so fuckin boring. i cant even bring myself to begin reading it. i have been to the moon and nobody can prove i havent. therefore i win and i have a spoon from button moon.

I live on the dark side of the moon.... I can't prove this.

i've read in several books that the gamma rays would have killed the astronauts. i don't know,i'm just a truckdriver. maybe it would have turned them into the fantastic four.

i've read in several books that the gamma rays would have killed the astronauts. i don't know,i'm just a truckdriver. maybe it would have turned them into the fantastic four.

I could spend all day writing a rebuttal to the radiation/van allen belt argument...but lucky for me, other people have already done it, and done it much better than I ever could have. It's a little wordy, but if you have time to read several books about the moon hoax, you can probably find time to read this.

http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html

its a hoax

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Phil Plait's awesome website debunking many, many things. Worth perusing.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Phil Plait's awesome website debunking many, many things. Worth perusing.

+10

I should just post a link to the Bad Astronomy forum in every thread in The Unexplained. That would pretty much cover it :p

WATCH THIS VIDEO. I'M ABOUT TO END THIS BITCH..

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u fuckers didnt watch the video, did you?

Bullshit! is a fun show to watch.