How did Monson not submit Tim? He is one of the worlds best ground fighters and a 6'8 stand up dude even said that he out Jui-Jitzued one of the best.

probably because they bareley touched the mat, and when they did, he had no energy. terrible matchup, size and style even with monsons skills on the ground.

monson has shit cardio.... i said it before....

monson has shit cardio.... i said it before....

i disagree with that....jeff is very fit...however constantly shooting and failing throughout 3 rounds is difficult...

the only reason he didnt get him down and submit him was a 40lb and 11 inch height disadvantage...jeff had to shoot from nearly 3 feet away giving tim all the time in the world to sprawl to defend against the takedown...

because he didn't attack the leg, DAMN IT!!

worst fight ever

+1

TUF newb raped Rachelle Leah.

He couldnt take him down and when he finally did he was too tired and didnt have enough time. His whole stategy was dependant on the takedown and all Sylvia had to do was wait for the same damn move over and over again.

He should of tried something besides the guillotine twice.

He should have went for a leg when he had the chance...

He wasted energy taking unsuccessful shots and when he had the chance for the finish, he was burnt

Sprawl and Pray by Tim

And the problem seemed to be that all Tim had to do was semi sprawl. But he does have a very good takedown defense, not great, but very good. Also, when you go to shoot on someone who has that much of an advantage it is really hard to take them down. Jiu Jitsu. The crowd was electric that night, everyone wanted Monson to win.

Monsons ground game is over-rated, in ADCC he just lays and prays, he never subs people like Roger Gracie and others

I still have not watched this fight. I abviously know the results but.....

i hav no urge to watch it again.

i disagree with that....jeff is very fit...however constantly shooting and failing throughout 3 rounds is difficult...

the only reason he didnt get him down and submit him was a 40lb and 11 inch height disadvantage...jeff had to shoot from nearly 3 feet away giving tim all the time in the world to sprawl to defend against the takedown...

just cuz he's buff as hell doesnt mean he's got good cardio, ex. vitor, & sometimes even crocop.

another ex. alistair overeem.

Probably because Tim is 6'8" and it took all Monson's energy to attempt to get Tim down so the few time's he finally did there was nothing he could do about it

Monsons ground game is over-rated, in ADCC he just lays and prays, he never subs people like Roger Gracie and others

This is ecxactly correct. Monson won ADCC as a purple belt in BJJ by using his strength to gain positioning and ride it out for points. Very effective for winning sub grappling tournaments but not so much for mma.

yup jeff was just too tired. if the fight started on the ground, no matter what position, big timm-ah would've gotten submitted in 15 seconds flat.

probably because they bareley touched the mat, and when they did, he had no energy. terrible matchup, size and style even with monsons skills on the ground.

From what I hear they barely touched each other never mind the mat.