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JKDkilla
11-16-2006, 06:39 PM
Who do you think would win?
Rob Kaman
http://www.karate.org.yu/shop/images/rob.jpg
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Ramon Dekker
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3121/kick11pt.jpg
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Tom Stall
11-16-2006, 06:46 PM
size difference

JKDkilla
11-16-2006, 07:20 PM
Doens't matter when the heart is ready for war. I seen smaller guys take on bigger guys and win. Pride has shown this.

Tom Stall
11-18-2006, 03:33 AM
dekkers isn't that good.... he was never lumpinee stadium champion.... thats the most important accolade. He was a good fighter but i don't like how people play him up as best of all time

Rudy-D.F.F!!!!
11-18-2006, 06:53 PM
WTF!??? Ninjashoes i think you need to watch more videos about him bro..really.

Tom Stall
11-18-2006, 10:17 PM
i do. look at his record. he is a good fighter from a western perspective. he has a lot of losses too. i am just commenting that he hasn't captured the stadium title. everytime he went for it, he lost. i am pretty sure you don't see much of his fights.... most people here just know him from his highlight reel.

kashmir454
11-20-2006, 12:24 AM
Kaman by low kick.

Biggy1
11-24-2006, 11:16 PM
Kaman was far more versatile,strong and intellignet.Kaman by conditionning and low kicks.

presa_tito
11-26-2006, 12:40 AM
How can you not see the size difference. Dekkers is a really small guy.

Biggy1
11-26-2006, 02:02 AM
We're talking P for P buddy...Damn I said it...

Tom Stall
11-26-2006, 06:22 AM
they are not the same weight.... u cannot compare pound for pound. i would say dekkers fought harder competition and lost due to his weight class but then kaman somewhat dominated his weight calss

Biggy1
11-26-2006, 12:45 PM
That's what pound for pound is for.WHy did he loose due to his weight class?Kaman was also in his own weight class,aren't he?Or do you mean Dekkers weight class was more competitive?I don't think so.Pure Muay thai has competitor in everuy weight class and very good ones.Dekkers fought more Thai fighters but european and especially Dutch fighters in upper weight classes were as good as the lower classes thai fighters.That's just an extrapolation on style.They were both the creme de la creme at the time.

Benroliver
11-28-2006, 06:53 AM
P4P Dekker is more powerful. Dekker has to be considered one of the best ever p4p, he simply devastates people with sheer intensity, speed, and strenght. If he and Kaman where the same size it would be a good fight, Kaman has some lethal accuracy.

Toothbrush
12-15-2006, 11:54 AM
P4P I would have to go with Kaman, simply due to the 'tache he was sporting later on in his career

hankd
02-07-2007, 12:34 AM
Classic!!

thegrave
02-07-2007, 09:45 PM
kaman but dekkers had one hell of a hook

thatguy32
02-11-2007, 04:18 AM
to bad people age past there 30s.....

simply
02-13-2007, 06:24 PM
my god dekkers looks good in those fights. His counter elbow at 3:27 in the vid is awesome.

Tom Stall
02-14-2007, 02:47 AM
i always thought dekkers was kinda overrated cause he was white. he threw his shots kinda wild that he would fall over if he missed

Just_some_idiot
02-16-2007, 07:22 AM
Now, I'm a total kickboxing noob, so keep that in mind when I say what I'm about to say...

...I think Kaman would beat Dekkers. 1) Size difference; 2) those crosses (I think they're called) look perfect for when Dekkers swings wild; 3) I think Kaman might have better kicks; 4) I'm pretty sure that Kaman has a better defense; 5) that mustache is so awesome it might win the fight for Kaman.

dragonfly
02-16-2007, 10:17 AM
Who do you think would win?
Rob Kaman
http://www.karate.org.yu/shop/images/rob.jpg
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-8871995526849805549&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>
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Ramon Dekker
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3121/kick11pt.jpg
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8782000632102917799&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>

i <3 kyhos dekkers hl vid... fucking awesome shit right hurr... hail magnus!!!

kopman
02-16-2007, 12:51 PM
Phranq Dekker HL > Kyho Dekker HL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPzf7OOf0Q&mode=related&search=

dragonfly
02-16-2007, 01:17 PM
Phranq Dekker HL > Kyho Dekker HL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPzf7OOf0Q&mode=related&search=

blasphemous!!! magnus' hl was one of the first i added to my collection...

Hater_Huntin
02-16-2007, 02:18 PM
I like dekkers but kaman would proably take this fight even if both were in their prime.

MurdA713
02-19-2007, 11:45 PM
i would say kaman would win this fight but it would be a good one....