View Full Version : MONSON'S A GOOD GUY


cam
11-15-2006, 05:08 PM
I just watched an interview with monson about his upcoming fight. Wow, I always wanted him to win but now I really want him to kill Sylvia. Monson's a class act. He was intellegent, respectfull of Tim and supper grounded. What a great change over Sylvia arrogant retarded wrants. I love class act guys, it gives the sport the credibility it deserves. The interview was on Sherdog today as I'm sure you all already knew.

JoeboCop
11-15-2006, 05:10 PM
His political stances won't make him a popular champ though. I don't disagree with the things he says but fact of the matter is most people are going to react badly to his beliefs.

cam
11-15-2006, 05:12 PM
ya, he's little out there, I guess I just appreciate the respect he gives the other fighters, that's what I think gives the sport the credibility. All that other WWF crap is so anoying

MMAsterkillah
11-15-2006, 05:51 PM
I like Monson the person. Hes not a trend-following moron, he actually seems to be a legitimate human being. The guy looks badass and is certainly unique in his beliefs, but I prefer his honesty to any BS gimmick.

cam
11-15-2006, 05:58 PM
better said Master

aussjj
11-15-2006, 09:37 PM
ya monson might be softo-spoken and sound intelligent, but somehow i find it hard to believe he really is with views like that. Anti-capitalist views in todays world really defy common sense, especially wehn theyre as extreme as his.

Im really not sure who i want to win, if people dont like him for his views, then i cant blame them. People dont like Tim for his personality, and political views are a part of someones personality, especially if they walk around with them tatooed everywehre.

cam
11-15-2006, 09:42 PM
great post Aussjj, my point is that Monson is respectful of other fighters and there accomplishments. That kind of athlete garners my respect regardless of his unusual outlook on global politics. A world as fucked up as ours is bound to spawn some unusual ideaolgies anyway heh

ninjashoes
11-15-2006, 09:49 PM
If people dont like what he believes in then they are fucking hypocrits, the USA is supposed to be about having the freedom to believe what you want. I think it would be very refreshing to have a champ who actually uses his brain.

Resin
11-15-2006, 09:52 PM
Like i said i am amused of his choice of political stand point of view but if he was a true anarchist and socialist andall that he shouldnt live here in this country.

cam
11-15-2006, 09:57 PM
resin, what are you saying man, that's the whole idea of the USA, freedom to be and say whatever you want, or do you mean a "true" anarchist would pose a danger to his fellow man and that's why he souldn't live in the US

Resin
11-15-2006, 10:07 PM
correct cam.... all im saying is if he was true to what he claims then he should be out running around not giving a damn also sharing his pay check to half the crowd if he beliefs in free trade.

I'm sure he's a real nice guy and all that but i dont believe he is a real anarchist or any of those things...........

ninjashoes
11-15-2006, 10:08 PM
Like i said i am amused of his choice of political stand point of view but if he was a true anarchist and socialist andall that he shouldnt live here in this country.

I disagree, you cant expect someone to live like they would if their belief was in effect when its not in effect. He might believe that everyone should share everything but that is not the current state and it would be impossible to live like it was unless everyone agreed.

Resin
11-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Anarchist my ass.

cam
11-15-2006, 10:10 PM
he's a trendy anarchist then, kind of cheapens the whole thing hey

ninjashoes
11-15-2006, 10:14 PM
I dont really see that at all. Just because he feels that the goverment should be run a different way doesent mean he should give his money away. Do you really know for sure that he doesent use his money to further certain causes?

cam
11-15-2006, 10:21 PM
hey, point taken Daniel. The facts are these. He is well spoken, firm in his beliefs and respectfull of others. That, in and of itself is alot more than most can say. I can't comment on the rest, I don't know him personaly so I can't guage his devotion to his beliefs. I admire his conviction even if I find his idealogy flawed. I hope I see him soon with Sylvia's neck in his grasp

aussjj
11-15-2006, 10:40 PM
I entirely agree with cam, he seems to be very respectable mmartist.
but it shouldnt be expected of people to like his beliefs. sure he uses his brain, but does he use it well? You cant just give an A for effort if the outcome is entirely flawed.
With that said, ill probably be goin for Monson, at least the UFC doesnt want him to voice his oppinion to strong, and thats the only thing holding him back. We cant say the same for Sylvia.

ninjashoes
11-15-2006, 10:46 PM
I entirely agree with cam, he seems to be very respectable mmartist.
but it shouldnt be expected of people to like his beliefs. sure he uses his brain, but does he use it well? You cant just give an A for effort if the outcome is entirely flawed.
With that said, ill probably be goin for Monson, at least the UFC doesnt want him to voice his oppinion to strong, and thats the only thing holding him back. We cant say the same for Sylvia.

Can you really say that our current situation in the US is anything but flawed? It is easy to let others have control and believe that what they do is in your best interests. The founding fathers did not believe in true direct democracy because they were smart men and knew that people are swayed easily by political engineering. The idea is that the masses are not smart enought to always make the best choices and the electorial college is neccessary. Monson would rather have a more direct democracy where everyone votes on everything. What right do you have to say his brain does not work correctly when he simply follows a different train of thought?

dr.katz
11-15-2006, 10:52 PM
no one ever accused the snowman of following the norm. i hope he wears his assasinate the president shirt on sat.

Chickenjorge
11-15-2006, 11:10 PM
His political stances won't make him a popular champ though. I don't disagree with the things he says but fact of the matter is most people are going to react badly to his beliefs.


either that or he'll actually be known for shit like that, as other people have in the past.

(ex. mike tyson, o.j. simpson, etc.)

aussjj
11-16-2006, 12:29 AM
Can you really say that our current situation in the US is anything but flawed? It is easy to let others have control and believe that what they do is in your best interests. The founding fathers did not believe in true direct democracy because they were smart men and knew that people are swayed easily by political engineering. The idea is that the masses are not smart enought to always make the best choices and the electorial college is neccessary. Monson would rather have a more direct democracy where everyone votes on everything. What right do you have to say his brain does not work correctly when he simply follows a different train of thought?

sry, i dont mean to imply his brain does not work correctly, he may actually be pretty smart. He seems quite literate and educated, right?
Its just that anarchist beliefs are extremely flawed. Someone could voice a terrible opinion in an intelligent way and it doenst mean theyre intelligent, it just means tehy did there homework.

Its not a matter of being a Bush fan, its a matter of recognising that capitalist nations are the most powerful and most free, and anarchy has never worked.

Resin
11-16-2006, 12:33 AM
hahah @ monson.

MMAsterkillah
11-16-2006, 12:35 AM
I find it refreshing that he doesn't take the Britney Spears stance of "we should do what our president says". After all, isn't our whole government based on active citizen participation? In my opinion, the more political views, the better, because we have to many people just picking the lesser of two evils politically these days; and not actually choosing a politician who believes what they do. Just because a guy is an anarchist, doesn't mean he has to practice anarchy when its impossible to practice it and live happily in this country.

Bruce Lee
11-16-2006, 12:40 AM
Monson was real cool in the interview. When asked about the two fights Sylvia was submitted in and if he learned any gameplan or tactic by watching them, he said those incidents were flukes. I'm sure Tim agrees!!!

Bruce Lee
11-16-2006, 12:44 AM
sry, i dont mean to imply his brain does not work correctly, he may actually be pretty smart. He seems quite literate and educated, right?
Its just that anarchist beliefs are extremely flawed. Someone could voice a terrible opinion in an intelligent way and it doenst mean theyre intelligent, it just means tehy did there homework.

Its not a matter of being a Bush fan, its a matter of recognising that capitalist nations are the most powerful and most free, and anarchy has never worked.


I don't know. I'd put Monsons Masters Degree ahead of your GED any day.

Monsons "anarchistic" views revolve around Direct Democracy, which, ironically, is a completely alien concept to most Americans. Monson simply opines and longs for a true cooperative democratic system, not this Corporatocracy we have in America today.

Resin
11-16-2006, 12:46 AM
I like Monson but i find his views very questionable and very funny reminds me of the high school kids.

angryleprechaun
11-16-2006, 01:17 AM
Yea i think monson got a good shot of tappin silvia out Arlofski Silvia round one style

jnizzle1
11-16-2006, 01:23 AM
Monson seems like a pretty nice dude but his views are way out there. I believe he can say what ever the hell he wants, and I actually respect him for having the balls to do it but I don't agree with the guy. Anarchism will never work in my opinion because human nature won't allow it. Whatever.

Either way this is about MMA, not politics and Monson better bring his A game or else he'll be eating some right hands and kicks to the face.

aussjj
11-16-2006, 01:48 AM
I don't know. I'd put Monsons Masters Degree ahead of your GED any day.

Monsons "anarchistic" views revolve around Direct Democracy, which, ironically, is a completely alien concept to most Americans. Monson simply opines and longs for a true cooperative democratic system, not this Corporatocracy we have in America today.

yes monson does have a higher education than me, but i am in college and i guess ill have to see waht the other guys with masters degrees think. Im pretty sure they will agree with myself over him.

aussjj
11-16-2006, 01:51 AM
and as an economics student, i know that this "corporatacracy" you speak of is what allows our economy to be the strongest in the world, and is what allows Monson to fight for a living.

look i dont hate Monson, but its kinda ridiculous to agree with his views, complete direct democracy is not applicable.

Perko
11-16-2006, 06:08 AM
hes one of my favourite fighters cuz of not only what he believs in but the way he approaches the sport...mma needs more people like monson...imo he is kind of like a hardcore version of hendo...brings good spirit with a bit of off the chart attitude and a lot of politics...

Perko
11-16-2006, 06:11 AM
and as an economics student, i know that this "corporatacracy" you speak of is what allows our economy to be the strongest in the world, and is what allows Monson to fight for a living.

look i dont hate Monson, but its kinda ridiculous to agree with his views, complete direct democracy is not applicable.

actually, globalisation and corporatcracy....however the ufc doesnt have the power over the government which is a fundamental flaw in your economic theory...pretty sure only larger corporations who have a large enough private economy to significantly impact exchange rates by ways of remissions or consolidation have corporate power....

SD_ATOmega119
11-16-2006, 06:15 AM
so the bottom line is hes one crazy ass gorilla lol

war monson

ninjashoes
11-16-2006, 03:12 PM
and as an economics student, i know that this "corporatacracy" you speak of is what allows our economy to be the strongest in the world, and is what allows Monson to fight for a living.

look i dont hate Monson, but its kinda ridiculous to agree with his views, complete direct democracy is not applicable.

Human nature might not be able adjust to Monsons views but if he wants to speak out and try to change peoples conciousnesses for the better then theres nothing wrong with that. It doesent make him stupid or a poser. How much do you really know about what exactly Monson believes in besides what you've heard in a couple interviews. Thats as bad as if I said all Democrats are liberal idiots who are destroying our country.

If your an economics student you should know about the impact that globalization is having on small countries and our enviroment. Things like capitalism are just loose terms given to certain political viewpoints in a way to manipulate mass conciousness. You can look at Monson and label him a kooky anarchist but I thnk the people who are talking bad about him should send him a letter and ask him about it then he can defend himself.

meepins
11-16-2006, 04:56 PM
and as an economics student, i know that this "corporatacracy" you speak of is what allows our economy to be the strongest in the world, and is what allows Monson to fight for a living.

look i dont hate Monson, but its kinda ridiculous to agree with his views, complete direct democracy is not applicable.
I follow geopolitics quite a bit and the American economy isn't the strongest in the world, in fact America trails the other countries in the world on alot of things including medical care and education. That economy is trillions of dollars in debt and a crash is inevitable... theres no way out of it.
Corporateocracy? No, the word you're looking for is Fascism. America is a fascist nation. The government and big corporations run the country with little input from the citizens.

I noticed someone mention Monson wearing a 'Assassinate Bush' t-shirt or something to that effect.I don't know anything about him but clearly he is demonstrating free speech and is provoking thought on free speech..

MMAsterkillah
11-16-2006, 05:04 PM
and as an economics student, i know that this "corporatacracy" you speak of is what allows our economy to be the strongest in the world, and is what allows Monson to fight for a living.

look i dont hate Monson, but its kinda ridiculous to agree with his views, complete direct democracy is not applicable.

this "corporatacracy" actually ruins the world; despite helping america. check out the WTO, the IMF and the World Bank for evidence of fraudulence and greed. It also causes social and economic problems throughout the world, and eliminates possible competitive markets.

We are 8.5 TRILLION in debt, and we spend 406 BILLION each year just paying of the interest on that huge deficit. Just in comparison, we spend 61 Billion per year on education compared to 406 Billion paying off the debt interest; sound good to you? not to me...

meepins
11-16-2006, 05:29 PM
check out the WTO, the IMF and the World Bank for evidence of fraudulence and greed. It also causes social and economic problems throughout the world, and eliminates possible competitive markets.


http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold#more-960

You can't go wrong with Greg Palast if you're interested in this kind of thing.

mmaboi
02-11-2007, 05:07 AM
Monson is a stud