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MMAsterkillah 10-20-2006, 08:33 PM Hey Everyone. I have a close friend who moved to Japan when he was 8 or 9. His father was a practicioner of a certain martial art, and was like #6 in the world or north america at one point. I cant remember what it is called but I know it consisted mostly of standing submissions, and it is a japanese form of martial art... does it ring a bell with any of you, because im looking for the name? i saw him earlier this summer and asked him but i cant remember what he said.
Chickenjorge 10-20-2006, 10:38 PM i really dont know. but doesnt a certain type of kung-fu mostly consist of this?
MMAsterkillah 10-21-2006, 04:17 AM Im not sure if there is a kungfu like this but it definitely wasn't that. I thought it was something sounding like Jeet Kun Do but it cant be because Jeet Kun Do isnt standing submissions. I might just have to wait until I see him again but I was just hoping someone might be able to drop some knowledge.
ninjashoes 10-21-2006, 09:18 AM Hapkido? Aki Jitsu? Theres a shitload of them.
Fantouz 10-21-2006, 07:08 PM Aikido
MMAsterkillah 10-21-2006, 08:49 PM sorry guys i dont think its ne of those. maybe aikido but i dont think so. im an idiot and pissed i cant rmember
SolitaryIndividual 10-23-2006, 10:34 AM catch wrestling and shoot boxing deal a lot with standing submissions, more catch wrestling, and bruce lee (who created jeet kun do) did study catch wrestling with gene lebell, those fighting styles dont have fancy names, but i could see them having been ranked highly at one point with practicioners like frank and ken shamrock and matt hume, gene lebell, and erik paulson
and what do you mean by "and was like #6 in the world or north america at one point"?
Shin^ 10-31-2006, 10:09 PM I have the answer. If the art is Japanese it's quite probably Jujutsu. It isn't practiced much in Japan and isn't practiced much anywhere in it's traditional form. It is the art (although it still has many different schools) that the samurai used. It has many standup submissions but ground submissions as well. Beginners learn the standup submissions first. Throws are a part of it as well. It has striking as well but in it's traditional form it isn't much practiced.
It is the art from which judo (and bjj) and aikido have developed from. Many arts have also taken influences from it, hapkido for example.
Nowadays modern versions are practiced outside Japan and they have increased the amount of striking in the art. In Europe for example there are many different schools of jujutsu.
EDIT there is a Korean martial art called Han Moo Do that has taken influences from Jujutsu as well so if it wasn't Japanese it could be it.
Hendricks 11-02-2006, 04:58 AM Yeah it's probably Japenese Jujitsu..the Samurai's used it. That's all I know lol
xhale 11-02-2006, 07:01 AM Yeah it's probably Japenese Jujitsu..the Samurai's used it. That's all I know lol
he said jujustu... and you spelled jiujitsu wrong..
aussjj 11-07-2006, 05:18 AM ok im entirely new (just joined today), but i take a form of jujutsu called Seibukan Jujutsu and it is very much like traditional Japanese Jujutsu, except with gun takaways and modern stuff. We dont have competitions cause its a self-defense, but many forms do and were not all that much different from them. I dont know how these competitions would go, but your description sounds like it could be some form of traditional, japanese jujutsu, with the standup submissions and all. The reason standup submissions are used is because of the self-defense and samurai roots, meaning wrestling on the ground is not all that efficient. Jujutsu is not Jui-jitsu.
12ninja 11-08-2006, 10:32 PM Doesn't matter. Gracie Jiu jitsu reigns supreme!!! haha RESPECT
InternetHero 11-12-2006, 06:31 AM Doesn't matter. Gracie Jiu jitsu reigns supreme!!! haha RESPECT
Freestyle jiu jitsu > gracie jiu jitsu.
ninjashoes 11-13-2006, 11:26 AM Jujutsu, the current standard spelling, is derived using the Hepburn romanization system. Before the first half of the 20th century, however, jiu-jitsu and then jujitsu were preferred, even though the romanization of the second kanji as jitsu is unfaithful to the standard Japanese pronunciation. Since Japanese martial arts first became widely known of in the West in that time period, these earlier spellings are still common in many places. Jiu-Jitsu is still the standard spelling in Brazil, Canada and the US.
aussjj 11-14-2006, 02:18 AM but doesnt "jui-jitsu" usually imply ground fighting? I know for certain that "jujutsu" does not. Jujutsu translates as ju-flexible, gentle, etc. jutsu-art. In every case where the spelling is jui-jitsu it seems to refer to Brazilian-type jui-jitsu. Whenever its "jujutsu", its usually like a mix between judo, aikido, and karate, all of which were a least partly derived from traditional jujutsu. The art was developed by Samurai for war, and in modern times is used as a self-defense, not mma-style fighting like "jui-jitsu" typically is. I hear some forms of competition exist so i assume it could be what was described as the thread-starter.
ninjashoes 11-14-2006, 11:37 AM but doesnt "jui-jitsu" usually imply ground fighting? I know for certain that "jujutsu" does not. Jujutsu translates as ju-flexible, gentle, etc. jutsu-art. In every case where the spelling is jui-jitsu it seems to refer to Brazilian-type jui-jitsu. Whenever its "jujutsu", its usually like a mix between judo, aikido, and karate, all of which were a least partly derived from traditional jujutsu. The art was developed by Samurai for war, and in modern times is used as a self-defense, not mma-style fighting like "jui-jitsu" typically is. I hear some forms of competition exist so i assume it could be what was described as the thread-starter.
no its all the same thing just different spelling in different peroids of time and areas of the planet
aussjj 11-15-2006, 10:09 AM no its all the same thing just different spelling in different peroids of time and areas of the planet
I dont doubt that your correct, but ive never seen "jui-jitsu" refer to traditional Japanese jujutsu (which is typically has elements of aikido, judo, and karate), and never seen "jujutsu" refer to Gracie Jui-jitsu. Maybe jui-jitsu is the portuguese spelling, and most of America has adopted it sense Brazilian Jui-jitsu is becoming popular.
ninjashoes 11-15-2006, 09:36 PM I dont doubt that your correct, but ive never seen "jui-jitsu" refer to traditional Japanese jujutsu (which is typically has elements of aikido, judo, and karate), and never seen "jujutsu" refer to Gracie Jui-jitsu. Maybe jui-jitsu is the portuguese spelling, and most of America has adopted it sense Brazilian Jui-jitsu is becoming popular.
basically the Japanese switched it then switched back again
leebyun 12-14-2006, 08:57 AM it's probably Aikido or aiki jiu jitsu
dynamitemitch 01-07-2007, 04:28 AM actually i believe jujitsu means the soft (the soft) art (jitsu)which gave way to judo meaning the gentle way (ironic how the throws can been done with such force it could destroy a person)
UrbanX 01-07-2007, 05:00 AM it's probably Aikido or aiki jiu jitsu
Yes, I agree. I think it could be something like Daitoryu Aikjujitsu.
jotun 01-07-2007, 05:14 AM i think the reason for some of the confusion is bc people in mma especially those brazilians, refer to bjj as just jujuitsu (or however u want to spell it) when in actually they should be calling their art brazilian jiu-jitsu or gracie jiu jitsu. its a lot easier when u dont have to say the 4 extra syllables. whatever, it's just their slang and their influence has caused many commentators to call bjj, just jujitsu.
jacknicholson 01-08-2007, 09:37 AM Study CesarJJ
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