What do you think is the most effective bodybuilding supplement for MMA fighters?

[MMAUltimateFighter]

"Bodybuilding supplements are substances taken by athletes or individuals involved in weight training or other physical activity to aid in the building of lean muscle mass or to cause fat loss.

Bodybuilding supplements may also be used to improve sports performance and improve recovery from events and training."

What do you think is the most effective bodybuilding supplement for MMA fighters?

Pls post your answers.

[TomStall]

serostim, anavar, winstrol, nandrolone........

[tropicana619]

+more-Meat

[LANCE SVRETHRVST]

serostim, anavar, winstrol, nandrolone........

gnub. hgh/eot.

[SoilWork]

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/RangerD_2007/sylvester-stallone.jpg agrees ^^^^

[TomStall]

gnub. hgh/eot.

what do you think serostim is? don't just throw around the term hgh around....

[kermitthefrayer]

+more-Meat

Horse meat*

[LANCE SVRETHRVST]

what do you think serostim is? don't just throw around the term hgh around....

never looked into them cause i am not a little pussy in need of this shit. tell us more about it though...:no:

[TomStall]

then why comment on this thread and calling me a gnub while you don't even know shit in the first place?

[LANCE SVRETHRVST]

just joking buddy. illegal supplements ftl as far as advice goes.

[Radar]

marijuana apparently


but also a whey protein supplement (OR RAW EGGS UNUSABLE BY THE HUMAN BODY SALMONELLA AAAARGH)



also icepacks and sleep

[LANCE SVRETHRVST]

marijuana apparently


but also a whey protein supplement (OR RAW EGGS UNUSABLE BY THE HUMAN BODY SALMONELLA AAAARGH)



also icepacks and sleep

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[Zere]

Creatine

[Bloodshot {ADR}]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/steroids.jpg

[GoatCheese]

I know this guy who eats nothing but a protein packed salad. And hes freagging ripped.

[pender]

creatine, glucosomine/chondroitin, whey protien, various amino acids. free forming and branch chained (BCAA) basically anything and everything that helps you repair your muscles so you can keep working out.
just saw an article on this a few minutes ago.

[ninjashoes]

whey protein
glutamine
green powder
fish oil
bcaa's
HMB
fiber
banana

creatine is pure crap, stay away from it

[BuxomBlonde]

creatine is pure crap, stay away from it

uhhh wot??

[Category5D]

whey protein
glutamine
green powder
fish oil
bcaa's
HMB
fiber
banana

creatine is pure crap, stay away from it


Really? I would say glutamine is pure crap. Creatine has countless studies showing it's effectiveness. Show me one for glutamine that isn't used on burn victims? Glutamine may have a bit of health benefits, but as far as strength and muscle oral glutamine blows. Just eat a high protein diet and you have not need for additional oral glutamine.

[Zere]

truth^

[maximus300]

Based on studies, Creatine does great for SHORT-distance runners, sprinters etc, because of the increased ATP-energy stored in the muscles....for endurance athletes, the benefits are less noticeable, though still there. All-in-all, a good whey protein, creatine to bounce you back after those hard workouts, maybe BCAA's if the budget permits....

The only difference between Whey and say for example chicken breasts, is the rate of absorption. Whey disappears into your blood stream almost instantly. On the subject though, you may see a lot of crap terms related to whey thrown about, for example Hydrosolate, Isolate, Concentrate, blah blah blah..supposedly means better absorption (a.k.a. an excuse to just bump the price up!!)

A good priced whey should see you through when taken soon after a grappling/MMA/ strength/weights/cardio or whatever workout, together with your creatine. Boosts recovery like you wouldn't believe, and packs on the muscle (maybe not SUCH a smart idea if trying to make weight, but otherwise always gooooood, hehe)

[Zere]

I thought that creatine showed no performance benefits for endurance athletes? Has this changed? I haven't read much on it in the last few years.

[maximus300]

Sorry if I created a misunderstanding! Creatine in itself doesn't help at all to increase endurance per se...so an athlete training EXCLUSIVELY endurance work will gain no benefits as far as I can tell from the science-talk. BUT, as I assumed in my post, endurance athletes also train other energy systems other than endurance-based.
For e.g. training anaerobically to increase VO2 max, or middle-distance running, lactic-acid threshold training, etc etc. And here they may benefit from the recuperation boosting powers of creatine supplementation.

[Zere]

That makes sense

[ninjashoes]

Really? I would say glutamine is pure crap. Creatine has countless studies showing it's effectiveness. Show me one for glutamine that isn't used on burn victims? Glutamine may have a bit of health benefits, but as far as strength and muscle oral glutamine blows. Just eat a high protein diet and you have not need for additional oral glutamine.

I took creatine for around 2 years and concluded its garbage. I don't like having soggy muscles and an upset stomach.

I also feel like it loses its affect after a few weeks-couple months which is probably why so many people cycle it.

Creatine is something people take when they first get into supplementation but it seems to me just about everyone eventually quits taking it.

btw I took both creatine monohydrate and ester creatine

Glutamines immune system benefits are definetly proven. I really don't see why you would label it as "pure crap" when it doesent have the negative side effects something like creatine has. I love glutamine because it keeps me from getting sick as much and when I do get sick I recover much faster. Heres a link to a study where hospital patients are given glutamine and show increased white blood cell count. Hospital stays were substantially shortened.

http://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/1998/02000/Total_Parenteral_Nutrition_With_Glutamine.22.aspx

Heres an interesting study that states Glutamine supplementation prevents exercise-induced neutrophil apoptosis.

http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/17542038/Glutamine_supplementation_prevents_exercise-induced_neutrophil_apoptosis_and_reduces_p38_MAPK_ and_JNK_phosphorylation_an

So yeah glutamine is pretty cool.

[ninjashoes]

creatines side effects from wiki


There is limited systematic study of the safety, pharmacology, or toxicology of creatine. Individuals using creatine, including athletes, should be monitored by a healthcare professional. Users are advised to inform their physicians or other qualified healthcare professionals.
Some individuals may experience gastrointestinal symptoms, including loss of appetite, stomach discomfort, diarrhea, or nausea.
Creatine may cause muscle cramps or muscle breakdown, leading to muscle tears or discomfort. Strains and sprains have been reported due to enthusiastic increases in workout regimens once starting creatine. Weight gain and increased body mass may occur. Heat intolerance, fever, dehydration, reduced blood volume, or electrolyte imbalances (and resulting seizures) may occur.
There is less concern today than there used to be about possible kidney damage from creatine, although there are reports of kidney damage, such as interstitial nephritis. Patients with kidney disease should avoid use of this supplement. Similarly, liver function may be altered, and caution is advised in those with underlying liver disease.
In theory, creatine may alter the activities of insulin. Caution is advised in patients with diabetes or hypoglycemia, and in those taking drugs, herbs, or supplements that affect blood sugar. Serum glucose levels may need to be monitored by a healthcare professional, and medication adjustments may be necessary.
Long-term administration of large quantities of creatine is reported to increase the production of formaldehyde, which may potentially cause serious unwanted side effects.
Creatine may increase the risk of compartment syndrome of the lower leg, a condition characterized by pain in the lower leg associated with inflammation and ischemia (diminished blood flow), which is a potential surgical emergency.
Reports of other side effects include thirst, mild headache, anxiety, irritability, aggression, nervousness, sleepiness, depression, abnormal heart rhythm, fainting or dizziness, blood clots in the legs (called deep vein thrombosis), seizure, or swollen limbs.

[Zere]

Creatine is one of the most well researched and safest supplements you can take

[Chris]

Bobby Lashley uses BAZI to power his body in a healthy, natural way instead of with artificial supplements like MG Supplements used by fighters like Tim Sylvia and Chuck Liddell.

here check it out http://bit.ly/8XcgnB

[chrismortimer66]

Fat loss- T3, Clenbuteral, ECA stack, GH -[GH and T3 are very hard to test for]

Muscle supps that are over the counter[PH/DS]- Superdrol, H-drol, Epistane, P-Mag,D-zine, 11 oxo. [think still legal in the usa]
In the uk, you can get most of every ProHormone/Designer steroid -i.e. M1T, Phera, SD, Bold etc....
Obvioulsy look into what events your going into and what they test for.

Genuine Steroids
For competion with lapse or no rules of testing, - halotestin or cheque drops

For strength with little or no weight gain-anavar, trenbolin

For overall size and strength - testosterone+ trenbolin+ anadrol/anapalon 50.

A must for all athletes that push themselves
good protein drink- aids in recouperation of muscle cells[if carbs with drink then aids in replenshing glycogen stores in muscle].

omega 3 fats- helps buffer cortisol which is bad for muscles and health, and regulate hormones

vits and minerals- keeps body working at best proficiency

water- most people think they are hydrated well unless your drinking 6-8 pints of water a day your not, water helps everything in your body work better.