View Full Version : God Damn those Celebrities!!!
henry 10-10-2006, 02:22 PM I am getting pretty sick of all these celebrities adopting children from and showing support for all nations but their own. These damn idiots like Brangelina and Madonna made there fame, fortune and fan base here in the States. We have orphan children here! We have homeless families here! We have education problems here! And where does all the focus go? To the next en' vogue third world country. Damn it! I do my part by helping with small donations and volunteer time to local shelters. But these assholes are millionaires and have fan cult clout. They need to direct it back home and make a difference where it counts!!
Sounding of with love for my country and ALL people in it!
War the victims of society!
Axeman 10-11-2006, 05:07 AM I am getting pretty sick of all these celebrities adopting children from and showing support for all nations but their own. These damn idiots like Brangelina and Madonna made there fame, fortune and fan base here in the States. We have orphan children here! We have homeless families here! We have education problems here! And where does all the focus go? To the next en' vogue third world country. Damn it! I do my part by helping with small donations and volunteer time to local shelters. But these assholes are millionaires and have fan cult clout. They need to direct it back home and make a difference where it counts!!
Sounding of with love for my country and ALL people in it!
War the victims of society!
you know, I have been bitching about that for yrs and yrs. I to put up my services in the shelters, not all the time but i do. I donate money,clothes,food when ever i can...i am a carpet installer who doesn't make a whole hell of alot of money, but i do help out the needy here when i can. the commercials that say " please help us save the lives of children and adults over seas" pisses me off more than anything, fuck that shit, help with the young and old here first. this is where you live not there.
Axeman 10-11-2006, 05:09 AM dont get me wrong i do help out overseas also, but the people in the united states that need help get my money first.
ninjashoes 10-11-2006, 11:11 PM I don't understand what difference it makes if you help people overseas or whatever as long as your helping its a good thing. Kids over here need help too but its mostly social services that needs to get them out of these neglectful homes. I don't see any priority over helping Americans over Ethiopians especially since your usually helping one individual kid anyway. I wouldnt be suprised though if alot of your cash ends up being funneled in places where it doesent belong.
henry 10-12-2006, 07:57 AM Yeah, I don't mean to be a dick to those overseas and less fortunate, but I feel a lot of these assholes (celebrities) are doing it solely for publicity.
ninjashoes 10-12-2006, 11:54 PM They are, look at princess Diana before she died. She spent her whole day doing charity work meanwhile she was bragging about stealing a guy away from his wife to her friends.
henry 10-14-2006, 04:38 PM Damn the English!
wave_mann 10-14-2006, 11:41 PM It is funny how celebs who adopt american kids arent on tv for it, but the ones with foreign kids are. hmmm
henry 10-15-2006, 10:22 AM To take in an American child isn't "where it's at"! You can thank all the dumb asses who watch shit like the E! channel, Inside Edition and all crap like it! Morons...
mmalover 10-30-2006, 01:34 AM Celebrities suggest they speak for all of us and sometimes even that they're no different from us while they have more bodyguards and protection than the President. God forbid we touch one of them. They damn sure don't speak for me.
dDuecy 10-30-2006, 01:32 PM Celebs are just like us except they have more influence on the simple minded people. There are very few celebs who really do charity for themselves most just do it because they want more attention, then when they get the attetion they hate it. Bono is a person who does alot and has gotten a lil publicity another is Bon Jovi, bono is helping africa, Jovi is helping Philly. Rage Against the Machine did alot of charity stuff when they were around
gamepady 10-30-2006, 09:55 PM WAR Jenna Jamison
Fantouz 10-31-2006, 03:01 AM To be fair to Brangelina they did do a fair amount of work in New Orleans; which btw is still fucked.
It is very true that their is widespread poverty in the USA, like all countries except the UAE, the blame should be pointed at poor policy making. Successive US governments had plenty of opportunity to raise the living standards of the lowest 5-10%, but the matter to the fact is that their is no incentive to do so.
Most policies that get adopted and implemented lack depth and reach; they are designed to appease criticism. For a good example look at the economics of Food Stamps and even more interesting look at EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit). The EITC is a fabulous concept but did no one notice prior to adoption that it would encourage a lack of productivity?
These are the issues that need to be urgently looked at in the USA, not why some celebrities, whose impact would be insignificant anyway, are helping some foreign kids/ countries.
I completley disagree with your assessment that help should not be given to overseas until our own mess has been sorted. Sure charity starts at home but one should not neglect the rest of the world. They are also human beings, they breath the same air as you, eat the same food (in principal not in practice), look like you and feel pain, shame and pride like you. Charity should not be country biased.
The campaigning that went on a few years ago, end poverty campagin, had admirable goals altough everyone knew they wereimpossible to attain. But you have to raise attention that insititutional and government debts are the principal reasons why some countries are not able to recover and be free of foreign aid.
To conclude I think your beef should be with the media portrayal and attention, not the fact that they are helping.
Oh and madonna is an attention-seeking whore who just did it for the publicity not for some greater meaning.
danxgerous 10-31-2006, 07:13 AM well to be fair, an orphan in detroit or something isnt exactly the same as an orphan from ghana. im america, you always have a chance. theres always some kind of opportunity you can have where you will be able to make something out of yourself, however unlikely. i mean, one of the worst things that can happen is you dont get adopted, you move around a lot of different foster homes, but you still can go to school, you still get an education, food, and clothes.
worst case scenario in ghana is like, you starve and you die.
henry 10-31-2006, 09:04 AM I'm a fix home first then the world person. I do feel for the rest of the world but I hurt for the kids of the U.S. I do what I can financially and am looking into local mentoring programs. I'm not saying screw the rest but I live here and what better place to start than right around you?
Orsyn 10-31-2006, 11:28 PM exactly, let's help fix the problems with kids here first, take care of where we are first, then we can help others. May sound f'd up but in our country, kids shouldn't be suffering.
Fantouz 11-01-2006, 12:17 AM I was saying that you should press your policy-makers to sort the shit out in the USA rather than blaming celebs for adopting some foreign kids; all their money is just a drop in the ocean compared to the funds available to governments. Particularly the USA.
I was not saying that you should ignore the American kids who are born in substandard conditions and I think that it's great that you are helping and i am sure we both wish more people committed more time and money to help.
Charity in only one neighbourhood creates segregation.
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