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Xeones
02-09-2009, 02:05 AM
I read that some of the members asked for it, so here it is:

http://uploading.com/files/7GYOU80T/Zatsiorsky-Science_and_Practice.rar.html

edit: Megaupload mirror: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBLS0KZW

Few pages are missing (203, 205-207 and 211 to be precise) but those are not very important because they are the part of chapters like training for females and young athletes. Everything else is there.

If there are any requests for books, you're free to ask, I will be glad to upload what I have.

P.S. I'm sorry I'm posting links as my first post, but I would like to contribute as much as I can and not talk shit all day...

Dit Da Jow
02-14-2009, 12:58 AM
Thanks for this post it looks like an interesting read. No need to apologize about contributing stuff, shit there are so many people that just take and don't give anything back.

One thing thought you may want to use rapidshare or megaupload in the future most people use these here. Uploading.com was slow as all fuck.

Thanks and some rep for you.

TapOut136
02-14-2009, 01:14 AM
Thanks! It's great to have people posting valuable stuff here

Xeones
02-14-2009, 10:23 PM
Books on rapidshare don't stay up for long. I'll have to try megaupload.

Reaper Man
02-19-2009, 04:27 PM
I read that some of the members asked for it, so here it is:

http://uploading.com/files/28SN5PVV/Zatsiorsky-Science_and_Practice.rar.html

Few pages are missing (203, 205-207 and 211 to be precise) but those are not very important because they are the part of chapters like training for females and young athletes. Everything else is there.

If there are any requests for books, you're free to ask, I will be glad to upload what I have.

P.S. I'm sorry I'm posting links as my first post, but I would like to contribute as much as I can and not talk shit all day...

You are a god among men. Don't ever leave me.

Where are you finding all of this rare shit? I have looked everywhere for this book without success.

Reaper Man
02-19-2009, 04:29 PM
Thanks for this post it looks like an interesting read.

LOL.

This is one of, if not the, most referenced work in all of strength training.


Xeones...a good site to post on is http://www.sharebee.com/

Xeones
02-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Reaper, I don't find them. I create them.

Reaper Man
02-19-2009, 11:50 PM
Reaper, I don't find them. I create them.

Awesome, I wish I could rep you again. Although the Zatiorsky book doesn't look like it was scanned, it looks like an ebook, how did you do it?

Maybe I'll offer to scan some to support the community. You've inspired me.

Xeones
02-20-2009, 04:42 AM
edit: *link deleted, blog down

12ninja
02-20-2009, 04:54 AM
I've been trying to find this book called Opening to Channel by Sanaya Roman. Do you think u can take a look if you can find it. And Gracie Jiu Jitsu The Master Text by Grandmaster Helio Gracie would be cool too

thanks!!

Dit Da Jow
02-20-2009, 06:45 AM
LOL.

This is one of, if not the, most referenced work in all of strength training.


Xeones...a good site to post on is http://www.sharebee.com/

Yes I know that this book is the "most referenced work in all of strength training."(no shit really) I am not a complete idiot for fuck sake. That's why I said that it looks like an interesting read. Meaning I am interested in reading the book...

Reaper Man
02-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Yes I know that this book is the "most referenced work in all of strength training."(no shit really) I am not a complete idiot for fuck sake. That's why I said that it looks like an interesting read. Meaning I am interested in reading the book...

Meh...the fact that you referred to it as simply "looking interesting" suggested to me that you were not aware of its significance. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Reaper Man
02-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Let's just say that I found the way to go around limits of one popular online reader/preview of books (and don't ask how, you need resources that only I have). People who purchased books there will recognize it :)

And while we are at it, visit http://ebooksanta.blogspot.com for more books (I just started with it, give me time and there will be more good stuff). Or request something...

I made a request thread for you in which I posted all of the fitness books I have been looking for for awhile.

http://ninjashoes.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1298824#post1298824

Xeones
02-20-2009, 03:13 PM
I get the:


Xeones, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

When I click on that link.

Xeones
02-20-2009, 03:49 PM
And Gracie Jiu Jitsu The Master Text by Grandmaster Helio Gracie would be cool too
Well, I have Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Master Text but it's not from Gracie, it's from Gene "Aranha" Simco.

Reaper Man
02-20-2009, 04:06 PM
I get the:


When I click on that link.

Weird. Well, here they are from that thread. You'll probably get access after you post 50 times or whatever the needed amount is.

Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution by S. Nieschlag, E. Nieschlag, H. M. Behre

Stretching Scientifically: A Guide to Flexibility Training by Thomas Kurz

Anatomy Trains: Myofascial Meridians for Manual and Movement Therapists by Thomas W. Myers, Leon Chaitow, Deane Juhan

Joint pain: Diagnosis and treatment using manipulative techniques by John McMennel

Supertraining by Mel Cunningham Siff

Practical Programming for Strength Training by Mark Rippetoe And Lon Kilgore

Strength and Power in Sport (Encyclopaedia of Sports Medicine) by P. V. Komi

Strongman Book by Strongman Book Product

Training for Mass by Gordon LaVelle

Kelso's Shrug Book by Paul Kelso

Super Squats: How to Gain 30 Pounds of Muscle in 6 Weeks by Randall J. Strossen

Mastery of Hand Strength by John Brookfield

The Grip Master's Manual by John Brookfield

Travell & Simons' Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual (2-Volume Set) by David G. Simons

Cyriax's Illustrated Manual of Orthopaedic Medicine by James Henry Cyriax

Principles of Manual Medicine by Philip E Greenman

Xeones
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Well, here it goes:

I have a Practical Programming for Strength Training by Rippetoe but it's kinda incomplete and I haven't put the pages together in a PDF yet. I will do it soon. In a few days I hope.

Same goes for Strength and Power in Sport (and I have the most important chapters from Biomechanics in Sport which is edited by Zatsiorsky and it's the part of the same encyclopedia for sports series as is Strength and Power). When I finish with it, you'll be the first one to know.

I don't have those Myofascial books, but I could try to get them. I have Mike Robertson's Self-Myofascial Release, Purpose, Methods and Techniques short eBook.

I have Super Squats in paper form, I'll try to get it scanned soon.

Supertraining is my dream. I don't have it, but God help me, I will get in sometime.

I don't have Grip Masters manual by John Brookfield but I have Grip Experts eBook which is a work of multiple authors from underground strength like Zach Even-Esh.

I'll try to get other books you requested.

Reaper Man
02-20-2009, 04:47 PM
Well, here it goes:

I have a Practical Programming for Strength Training by Rippetoe but it's kinda incomplete and I haven't put the pages together in a PDF yet. I will do it soon. In a few days I hope.

Same goes for Strength and Power in Sport (and I have the most important chapters from Biomechanics in Sport which is edited by Zatsiorsky and it's the part of the same encyclopedia for sports series as is Strength and Power). When I finish with it, you'll be the first one to know.

I don't have those Myofascial books, but I could try to get them. I have Mike Robertson's Self-Myofascial Release, Purpose, Methods and Techniques short eBook.

I have Super Squats in paper form, I'll try to get it scanned soon.

Supertraining is my dream. I don't have it, but God help me, I will get in sometime.

I don't have Grip Masters manual by John Brookfield but I have Grip Experts eBook which is a work of multiple authors from underground strength like Zach Even-Esh.

I'll try to get other books you requested.

Thanks for the help. Blevunly has Supertraining but I think he just hasn't bothered to scan it. Perhaps you could tempt him to do so after he sees all of your contributions.

Xeones
02-20-2009, 04:50 PM
I would trade my two sisters for that book. Get Blevunly to this thread, and I'll give him an offer he can't refuse (yeah, Godfather reference).

humpty
02-23-2009, 06:57 PM
God bless you Ebook Santa!!!

Xeones
02-23-2009, 07:12 PM
Uploading.com is giving me a trouble. Their servers are down very often, I will start uploading somewhere else. Please don't reupload my files, I will do it myself :)

Reaper Man
02-23-2009, 07:41 PM
Uploading.com is giving me a trouble. Their servers are down very often, I will start uploading somewhere else. Please don't reupload my files, I will do it myself :)

I'm telling you...upload with sharebee. It automatically protects and mirrors your upload to rapidshare, megaupload, bongo, and zshare.

Xeones
02-23-2009, 07:44 PM
That's awesome. Tomorrow I will reupload all of my files and upload few new ones.

Xeones
02-24-2009, 06:27 PM
Science and Practice of Strength Training is now on megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CBLS0KZW

Reaper Man
02-24-2009, 10:59 PM
If you could upload Bulletproof Knees to megaupload or sharebee, I would greatly appreciate it.

Xeones
02-25-2009, 01:00 AM
*edit: deleted, blog down

Zere
03-03-2009, 09:01 PM
I would love bulletproof knees.

Xeones
03-03-2009, 09:41 PM
Zere, Bulletproof Knees are up already, but on uploading.com. Some people complain about the download speed from it so Reaper Man suggested that I reupload it on megaupload (I will do that soon, I'm currently uploading other DVD's)

Here are the uploading.com links:

http://uploading.com/files/XI55BRP7/Bulletproof.part1.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/HH5LQ2JG/Bulletproof.part2.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/F9L95YWC/Bulletproof.part3.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/K904YEX2/Bulletproof.part4.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/KUN72VLQ/Bulletproof.part5.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/ZEJJUWKJ/Bulletproof.part6.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/871VT2Q7/Bulletproof.part7.rar.html
http://uploading.com/files/EGEA6JJO/Bulletproof.part8.rar.html

You can go around those limits (100 or 300 mb, I'm not sure what exactly) by changing the ip (reseting the modem or whatever you have), and deleting cookies. Or buy a three-day premium account. Or wait for me to upload it on megaupload.

Zere
03-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Thanks!

Reaper Man
03-20-2009, 01:08 PM
Xeones here'd you go man?

Xeones
03-21-2009, 05:26 PM
Well, there are only few people here who appreciate my uploads (you and...you?). Others would rather talk shit all day. So...

Dit Da Jow
03-22-2009, 02:24 AM
Well, there are only few people here who appreciate my uploads (you and...you?). Others would rather talk shit all day. So...

Not true I really appreciated all your posts. It is to bad that your blog is dead you had some great stuff on that.

Reaper Man
03-22-2009, 02:26 AM
Who's been talking shit?

Xeones
03-22-2009, 04:45 PM
Nevermind...I'll post some new stuff soon.

jcheu002
03-29-2009, 09:30 AM
hey xeones I'm looking for:

Bill Starr - The Strongest Shall Survive

Joe Hashey - Bull Strength

Maxwell Maltz - Psycho Cybernetics

... I have a collection as well, let me know if you need anything

Xeones
03-29-2009, 06:06 PM
Psycho Cybernetics: http://rs250tl2.rapidshare.com/files/62577550/psycho-cybernetics.rar

No offense, but I highly doubt that you have anything that I don't already have, if the case is that you found it online. But give me the list, just in case ;)

Zere
04-03-2009, 04:55 AM
Those bulletproof knee links, is that just his presentation or is the manual in it too? I'm not the best with comptuers, I've downloaded them all and all I can get out of it is the presentation. But I could be doing something wrong lol.

Xeones
04-03-2009, 12:35 PM
There's no manual with it, just a DVD seminar/presentation. I have the manual scanned, but I haven't made an ebook yet.

Can someone tell me what happened to Reaper Man?

Rob
04-03-2009, 12:40 PM
Apparently he asked to be temp banned so he could study a bit.

Zere
04-03-2009, 04:29 PM
There's no manual with it, just a DVD seminar/presentation. I have the manual scanned, but I haven't made an ebook yet.

Can someone tell me what happened to Reaper Man?

What would it take to get that ebook out of you? lol.

Zere
04-20-2009, 06:33 AM
pretty please?

humpty
04-21-2009, 06:45 PM
Xeones your posts are well appreciated my friend, some fine stuff that can't be found elsewhere.

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:17 PM
Dude, if you have the Bulletproof Knees pdf, I would love you... always...

Rob
06-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Dude, if you have the Bulletproof Knees pdf, I would love you... always...

You might hurt those knees again if you promise your love...

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:24 PM
that's a risk I'm willing to take, comrade...

Zere
06-30-2009, 04:28 PM
dude uh search the forum

Rob
06-30-2009, 04:31 PM
that's a risk I'm willing to take, comrade...

I'm implying you'll be on your knees blowing him in thank in case you didn't get it. If you did then I admire your determination to get this book.

Rob
06-30-2009, 04:32 PM
:thatsgay:

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:32 PM
are you kidding me?
the book?

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:33 PM
Rob, thanks for the clarification, but I'm not retarded...

Rob
06-30-2009, 04:37 PM
Rob, thanks for the clarification, but I'm not retarded...

I'm sorry we have some slower posters you know.

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:39 PM
I don't get it...

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:39 PM
is there a -sarcastic- smiley?

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:40 PM
And Zere... are you kidding me?
I'm probably retarded... or you are probably a liar... where the hell is it?

Zere
06-30-2009, 04:49 PM
Cmon man, right under the fitness instructionals. Alls you had to do was use the search function or go to the appropriate forum where it is on the top of the list:

http://ninjashoes.net/forum/showthread.php?t=62122

Too busy post whoring I guess.

IgX
06-30-2009, 04:56 PM
Hm... you're not a liar.
But I'm not retarded either. I'm not allowed to view that page. Not sufficient rights it says...

Zere
06-30-2009, 05:48 PM
that reminds me....someone needs to move this thread...

TomStall
06-30-2009, 06:52 PM
anyone has cressey's book on balance training. i am just interested in what he has to say. i need to read both sides of the argument.

IgX
06-30-2009, 06:54 PM
not the book, but I read some article about his opinion about unstable surface training.
Makes sense to me...

TomStall
06-30-2009, 06:57 PM
can u find an original article? i only read his opinion but i want to know more about it.

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:01 PM
There is a lot of free information on google based on scientific studies. You don't need to read Cressey's "book". Unstable surface training for healthy people is garbage. I have a couple pdfs I found pretty easy that quote Cresseys work that say that.

TomStall
06-30-2009, 07:04 PM
thats what i am saying i see all these quotes but i would like to know the exact science to it. and would it apply to someone like a snowboarder or a parkor practioner.

IgX
06-30-2009, 07:08 PM
Myth: Unstable-surface training works for everybody.
Mythbuster: Eric Cressey

While UST works for people in the rehab setting, a lot of trainers assume they can apply the same techniques to healthy athletes and prevent ankle sprains, improve balance, and enhance performance.

This makes perfect sense. We talk about "prehab" all the time when it comes to back and shoulder joints, so why wouldn't preemptive ankle training help you avoid sprains?

But then I dug into the research for my master's thesis, and what I found there surprised me: There's no evidence that UST reduces injury risk or improves performance in healthy, trained athletes.

When I conducted a study of my own, I had the good fortune to use one of the country's best Division I men's soccer teams as my subjects. Our results were published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research in August 2007.

My study showed that replacing 2 to 3 percent of overall training volume with UST didn't improve performance. But I also discovered something even more important: UST minimized improvements in jumping, sprinting, and agility tests. Put another way, the subjects who weren't doing UST made bigger gains in power, speed, and agility.

So just because something works in rehab doesn't mean it's useful for healthy athletes. In fact, if it takes the place of something else in their training, the opportunity cost seems to make things worse.

Once the study was finished, I invested a lot of time creating a framework for this type of training. One goal was to show the appropriate uses for UST, and there are some. But I also wanted to show an overall progression model for true instability training in healthy athletes.

A lot of people choose the binary route — either "it sucks" or "it's awesome" — but by the time I finished the 100-plus-page report (which you can purchase here), the answer turned out to be a lot more interesting and complex than those two extremes.




15. Reevaluate Your Use of Unstable Surfaces.

I've spent a good chunk of the last five years studying unstable surface training (UST). In fact, the results of my master's thesis were published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research in 2007, and I've written an entire e-book about the topic.

My main impression that's come about from all this research and experimentation is that UST is like the food guide pyramid of the exercise world. There are certain people in certain scenarios (e.g., ankle sprain rehabilitation, upper extremity proprioception drills) who need to use it, whereas it's remarkably inappropriate for others. Standing on an unstable surface is different than sitting on an unstable surface, which is also different than doing a push-up on an unstable surface.

I could go in a hundred different directions with this, but for the sake of brevity — and to avoid the guaranteed Internet pissing match that would ensue — I'll simply highlight one obvious perspective and back it up with a bit of research. Classic "core" work on unstable surfaces doesn't really carry over to anything.

Stability balls might increase fiber recruitment on these exercises (and double the spine load, according to Dr. McGill, but that's another story). The bigger issue is that the core stability improvements may not carry over to functional tasks.

A 2004 study from Stanton et al. is a great example of the divide between testing proficiency and performance. Researchers found that six weeks of stability ball training improved core stability in young athletes — as it was measured (in a manner consistent with the training itself).(1)

In other words, this is like saying that bench press training will make you better at bench pressing. Well, duh! The more important question, though, is whether or not that bench press performance will carry over to athletic performance.

While their measure of "core stability" improved, it did not effect favorable changes in running economy or running posture, or modify EMG activity of the abdominal or erector spinae muscles. In other words, it didn't carry over.

A comparable result was seen in a 2005 study from Tse et al. After eight weeks of stability ball training in collegiate rowers, while "core stability" (as they tested it) improved, the experimental (core training) group showed no performance improvements over those who did ZERO core training during this time.

And, the researchers tested several measures: "vertical jump, broad jump, shuttle run, 40-m sprint, overhead medicine ball throw, 2,000-m maximal rowing ergometer test."(2)

So, I guess the question is why bother doing this stuff if there really isn't any evidence to suggest that it directly improves performance? I could take the "it may lead to injury" perspective, but I think that the "why waste your time?" mindset is far superior.

Of course, if you're training with unstable surfaces just for comedic value, carry on.


And you can read this:
http://blogs.experiencelifemag.com/survival-of-the-fittest/2008/05/eric-cressey-is-unbalanced.html

IgX
06-30-2009, 07:11 PM
well, balance training is highly specific.

So if you want to get better balance for snowboarding, do a lot of snowboarding.

If you want to get better at parkour skills, walk and jump a lot of rails.

Specificity is key here.

TomStall
06-30-2009, 07:34 PM
i am trying to explain this to my friend but she brings up a point of what if the snowborders or surfers can't catch a wave all the time. they have to do some sports specific training to train agility and balance. its like me saying get better at football play more football don't hit the weight room.

i rather have a more specific understanding of the topic. the paragraphs u give above gives explanations but i need something with more detail like how much more? and if the people who aren't doing any core training. how long are they training for? and is there a control group?

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:41 PM
I'm a surfer. I cannot stand on balance balls or wobble boards or whatever for shit. I surf well. Speed is way more important. You are never going to be on a stationary wobbly surface, so how does this translate into snowboard/surfing/skateboarding? It doesn't. Single leg work on a stable surface probably helps a lot since it teaches your body to do well on one leg so you are better to transfer power and weight. But balancing on unstable surfaces is trash. I have a friend who can stand on them well and while he isnt a terrible surfer, he isn't very good because he is slow. When you are on objects the goal isn't to stabilize yourself by counteracting a motion in each direction to bring back to a center like you do on unstable surfaces the goal is to transfer weight powerfully and quickly to go into your next manuever. The goal isn't to be in complete control of and centering your body on the board. The goal is to use the momentum to do things, you aren't every in complete control.

I don't know if that made sense, but to sum it up, balance board training doesn't mock anything done in any sport (that I know of). It just doesn't make sense.

Its really hard for me to put it into words...

TomStall
06-30-2009, 07:44 PM
yea i understand i am trying to tell my friend this but i need a more solid explanation.

TomStall
06-30-2009, 07:46 PM
somethign like this. http://www.indoboard.com/

it seems liek surfing and they sell it like some kinda surfing tool

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:48 PM
Doing single leg stuff does accurately mimick what you need to do because it allows you to better transfer force onto a single leg. While it might seem like your snowboard or surfboard is unstable it really isn't (at least not in the same manner of a balance ball). My surfboard doesnt wobble in the water when im on a wave, its moving forcefully through the water in what direction i tell it to, its not wobbling while doing this.

I question sometimes about when doing some of the manuevers like a cutback sometimes It's difficult to keep your center of balance over the board so you don't fall, but I don't see where standing on a swiss ball mimicks this movement. If you're center of gravity is too far off you are falling one way or another. Balance on a swiss ball doesn't make you anchored to the board so you can pull yourself back to it. But I'm not positive, I still question whether the balance ball helps these situations.

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:49 PM
We have indo boards in the surfshop I work at that I mess around on. I'm pretty bad at them. But fear of falling might play into this. The Indo Roller I won't compeltely discredit since that kinda mimicks a fluid motion of boardsports, but the Indo balance cushion I think is garbage.

TomStall
06-30-2009, 07:51 PM
ok i have another friend who does kettlebell lifts on the indoboard. is it correct for me to tell him its not effective for him to get stronger? thats one of the topics of debate between me and my friend. it only seems like a creesey thing and i can't just be like yea it sucks... it makes u slower....

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:57 PM
It's not that he isn't going to get stronger, It's that it is extremely inefficient for gaining strength, and it is a big injury risk.

Zere
06-30-2009, 07:59 PM
When you are on balance things your body automatically engages opposing muscles because it needs to stabilize. This severely limits the amount of strength you can exhibit.

It also causes your muscles to become tighter, and therefore more injury prone.

Xeones
06-30-2009, 08:09 PM
Please, just please don't bring parkour on this forum. That shit ruined more knees than mob bookies. It's spreading like a disease among the kids. I don't want to know how cool it is, I don't care about the philosophy behind it because when I see 13-15 years old chicken legs kids jumping on concrete from like 2 meters or something I want to choke David Belle to death.

Zere
06-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Not to mention falling off the dam thing with a heavy weight...

Just get stronger and better than him using methods from people who know what they are talking about. They will learn then. Lead by example.

IgX
06-30-2009, 08:15 PM
its like me saying get better at football play more football don't hit the weight room.


No.
It depends on the skill.
Muscle Fiber recruitment is a general "ability" of the muscle. Either it can recruit so many fibers, or it can't. So if you need more strength, you'll traing for it.

"Balance" is highly specific. YOu can be a genious skateboarder and suck at slack lining, etc. It's a sport specific skill.
Max Strength up to a point is a general skill.

Search pubmed for some studies on unstable surface training IN NON-REHAB environment. It definately helps in rehab. It also helps for ankle stability since standing on an unstable surface recruits all major muscles surrounding the ankle.
Problem with unstable surface training for healthy people (ie on a wobble board or bosu ball) is that it promotes excessive ankle stiffness.
Since you have to stabilize by unusually strong contractions of the muscles close to the ankle, you'll create stiffness in that joint.
Joint stiffness in one join neccessitates flexibility in the surrounding joints, in this case, the knee.
The knee's not a joint where you want a lot of flexibility (lateral that is). It should be used mostly as a hinge.

Means, excessive stiffness in the ankle (promoted by unstable surface training) stresses the knee in not-so-good ways.

Also, according to some study I really am too lazy to dig out, unstable surface training in healthy athletes also reduced force output, which sucks, as well.

Most of this stuff only applies to exercises, where you are stanisng on the unstable surface. For exercises focusing on the shoulder girdle, unstable surface training MAY be beneficial, due to the increased muscular recruitment of shoulder stabilizers (serratus anterior, rotator cuff, rhomboids, lower trapezius, corracobrachialis, pec minor, etc.).

If you want more in-depth science, grab a book on it or weed through pubmed.

IgX
06-30-2009, 08:18 PM
Max strength can only be expressed in a stable environment.
Your body has several feedback mechanisms that inhibit maximal force output when standing on an unstable surface.
It's your bodies' safety break.
That's why you can put up more when bracing strongly. It creates stability.

TomStall
06-30-2009, 09:13 PM
i don't disagree with you guys. i am just saying how can i explain to a person i know that uses balance boards. that it isn't effective for surfering or snowboarding. like i posted before the indo board is highly similiar to a surf board

Zere
06-30-2009, 09:24 PM
It's actually not fact that it isn't effective for board sports. I was just posting my thoughts on it.

IgX
06-30-2009, 09:32 PM
Nobody argues that UST is utterly useless.
Question is that of specificity.

For skateboarding/surfing, indoboards may be an okay indoor alternative, plus they're fun.

But balance practice should be kept apart from strength building in most cases.
Means: presses and rows on an indo board: nice parlor trick, but stupid for strength training. you'll compromise both qualities.

Zere
06-30-2009, 10:20 PM
There are tons of people that argue UST is great.

IgX
07-01-2009, 11:37 AM
And it can be...
but like low fat, low carb, aerobics and whatnot, it's not the answer to all questions.

rentacrakz
12-08-2009, 01:50 AM
Weird. Well, here they are from that thread. You'll probably get access after you post 50 times or whatever the needed amount is.

Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution by S. Nieschlag, E. Nieschlag, H. M. Behre

Stretching Scientifically: A Guide to Flexibility Training by Thomas Kurz

Anatomy Trains: Myofascial Meridians for Manual and Movement Therapists by Thomas W. Myers, Leon Chaitow, Deane Juhan

Joint pain: Diagnosis and treatment using manipulative techniques by John McMennel

Supertraining by Mel Cunningham Siff

Practical Programming for Strength Training by Mark Rippetoe And Lon Kilgore

Strength and Power in Sport (Encyclopaedia of Sports Medicine) by P. V. Komi

Strongman Book by Strongman Book Product

Training for Mass by Gordon LaVelle

Kelso's Shrug Book by Paul Kelso

Super Squats: How to Gain 30 Pounds of Muscle in 6 Weeks by Randall J. Strossen

Mastery of Hand Strength by John Brookfield

The Grip Master's Manual by John Brookfield

Travell & Simons' Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual (2-Volume Set) by David G. Simons

Cyriax's Illustrated Manual of Orthopaedic Medicine by James Henry Cyriax

Principles of Manual Medicine by Philip E Greenman


Can somebody please tell me exactly how to get access to these links ???

Xeones
12-08-2009, 10:02 AM
Those are not links. Reaper talked about a list of requests in some thread.

rentacrakz
12-09-2009, 02:59 AM
Duh stupid me - guess I will have to crack out the credit card now

miaou
12-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Man, Xeones, the work you've been doing is great! I came across this website just today and I signed up just because of you.

I love scientific books on training and nutrition; not ones that will give you a routine but rather the ones that will describe the underlying mechanisms. I recently read Zatsiorky's Science and Practice and I can strongly recommend it. Actually had to go over it a second time and keep notes! I have just started reading Strength and Power in Sport a couple of days and I can see you already made a thread about that too.

I don't know if you are into nutrition, but off of my mind there are a couple I can recommend and also share (that I haven't seen you have uploaded already!).

Zere
12-31-2009, 02:42 AM
I lost my copy of this.

Xeones
12-31-2009, 10:10 AM
It's on my blog.

http://strength-ebooks.blogspot.com

miaou, I sent you a PM.