The meaning of the word existence

What do we mean by existence? The very definition for existence is that a thing is said to exist if it relates in some way to some other thing. That is, things exist in relation to each other. For us, that means that something is part of our system ('The known world'). God is defined to be infinite, in which case it is not possible for there to be anything other than god because "infinite" is all-inclusive. But if there is nothing other than god then either god cannot be said to exist for the reason just explained, or god is the known world, in which case, by definition, god is not a god.


Let's say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?

God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation. It is impossible to gain information from non-information so God as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/no_god.htm

God gives hope, otherwise we live for death. It does raise alot of questions, but they're questions that need answered. Or at the very least consideration.

God gives hope, otherwise we live for death. It does raise alot of questions, but they're questions that need answered. Or at the very least consideration.

That is a very bleak way to look at life.. almost medieval.

If God does not exist nothing changes except your views on the after life.

That is a very bleak way to look at life.. almost medieval.

If God does not exist nothing changes except your views on the after life.

If you choose faith in a God, you show determination to hold true to what you believe. this is something I'd imagine a higher power would admire.Who knows, maybe he's looking for that guy who likes to get drunk and bang hookers. I don't know. worse case scenario, I die showing self discipline.

If you choose faith in a God, you show determination to hold true to what you believe. this is something I'd imagine a higher power would admire.Who knows, maybe he's looking for that guy who likes to get drunk and bang hookers. I don't know. worse case scenario, I die showing self discipline.

Cool man, thats more positive.

I've learned more self discipline from Martial arts than religion.

I've learned more self discipline from Martial arts than religion.

there's mental discipline but not as much as religion. Anger is harder to control than anything I can think of, and alot of them aren't too good at it.

How does religion do anything but suppress your anger?

How does religion do anything but suppress your anger?

Sex, gluttony, putting others before yourself, loving those you dislike, the list goes on and on.

I could imrpove on all of those things, and I highly doubt I'll be perfect in all of them. Urges tend to overwhelm our will. There is room for every Christian to improve himself.

there's mental discipline but not as much as religion. Anger is harder to control than anything I can think of, and alot of them aren't too good at it.

ive never been in a fight in my life. I'd say i can control my anger very very well. Better than most. This is from martial arts, not any religion.

ive never been in a fight in my life. I'd say i can control my anger very very well. Better than most. This is from martial arts, not any religion.

Anger is not the only urge we have to try and control, we all have our struggles. Don't even pretend to be perfect! lol.

Anger is not the only urge we have to try and control, we all have our struggles. Don't even pretend to be perfect! lol.

im not saying im perfect. But i dont get angry very easily. I was commenting on your post. You read too much into things. Im making my statements very direct and literal, there is no hidden meaning you should search for. Take my words at face value.

im not saying im perfect. But i dont get angry very easily. I was commenting on your post. You read too much into things. Im making my statements very direct and literal, there is no hidden meaning you should search for. Take my words at face value.

Anger isn't a problem for everyone, is all I was trying to say.

Sex, gluttony, putting others before yourself, loving those you dislike, the list goes on and on.

I could imrpove on all of those things, and I highly doubt I'll be perfect in all of them. Urges tend to overwhelm our will. There is room for every Christian to improve himself.


How does religion do anything but suppress your anger?

That was my question. I'm not asking about angry sex or anger induced gluttony.. which is very strange to me.

Perfection is not the question.

How does religion do anything but suppress your anger?

That was my question. I'm not asking about angry sex or anger induced gluttony.. which is very strange to me.

Perfection is not the question.

it's only suppressed if you do not forgive. Perfection is what I strive for, knowing I'll not achieve it only better myself. to each their own.