who here considers themselves a Nihilist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

Nihilism (from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical position which argues that existence is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Nihilists generally assert some or all of the following:

* Objective morality does not exist.
* No action is logically preferable to any other in regard to the moral value of one action over another.
* In the absence of morality, existence has no intrinsic higher meaning or goal.
* There is no reasonable proof or argument for the existence of a higher ruler or creator.
* Even if a higher ruler or creator exists, mankind has no moral obligation to worship them.

The term nihilism is sometimes used synonymously with anomie to denote a general mood of despair at the pointlessness of existence.[1]

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Nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so
-Shakespeare

That looks easy.

Not Me..

That Reminds Me of the Big Lebowski

Not Me..

That Reminds Me of the Big Lebowski

Yup, Peter Stormaire's character is a nihilist.

I would not consider myself one.

I think what they believe is true for the most part. I wouldn't consider myself one though. I like to think people have meaning. Just one they choose for themselves, not one given to them by a God. IMO babies don't have a purpose other than to grow up. When they are of age that is when they can decide for themselves how they want to help society.

That looks easy.

So is accepting jesus and having all your bad deeds washed away.

So is accepting jesus and having all your bad deeds washed away.

Giving up sin isn't easy.

Giving up sin isn't easy.

Accepting Jesus doesn't mean you have to give up sinning. Isn't that why he died? Besides if you are going to be so arrogant to say you don't sin, you are even more delusional than i previously thought.

I was a nihilist, but after a crisis of faith I had to give it up.

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Accepting Jesus doesn't mean you have to give up sinning. Isn't that why he died? Besides if you are going to be so arrogant to say you don't sin, you are even more delusional than i previously thought.

As a Christion I am called to repent from my sins.

"Repentance is a change of thought and action to correct a wrong and gain forgiveness from the one wronged."

But you make it seem like you do no wrong. "Giving up sin" is not only hard it is impossible, even for a christian. And from what i've seen your definition of Repentance is not consistent with what i see christians doing. They usually pray to god for forgiveness but rarely try to patch things up with the person they have wronged.

But you make it seem like you do no wrong. "Giving up sin" is not only hard it is impossible, even for a christian. And from what i've seen your definition of Repentance is not consistent with what i see christians doing. They usually pray to god for forgiveness but rarely try to patch things up with the person they have wronged.

All I can really say to this is "Judge not lest you be judged".

Thats funny coming from you. First of all it was an observation not a judgement, so once again your response has missed the mark. Second, so the fuck what if i was judging you? You judge every non-christian here. But I am not a christian and i dont repent. You on the other hand are and need to do so according to your beliefs.

Do you make peace with everyone you wrong or do you just pray for forgiveness?

Thats funny coming from you. First of all it was an observation not a judgement, so once again your response has missed the mark. Second, so the fuck what if i was judging you? You judge every non-christian here. But I am not a christian and i dont repent. You on the other hand are and need to do so according to your beliefs.

No I don't.

Do you make peace with everyone you wrong or do you just pray for forgiveness?

Who have I wronged? The only one we wrong when we sin is God.

HAHAHAHAHA. So if you steal something from someone only god gets mad. Wow... Being a christian is easy.

BTW you just proved my point.

HAHAHAHAHA. So if you steal something from someone only god gets mad. Wow... Being a christian is easy.

I care more about Gods opinion than I do a mans, whats wrong with that? and I wouldn't steal anything, I buy the things I want.

BTW you just proved my point.

Oh cool I must be pwnt. Whats your point?

The only one we wrong when we sin is God.

Murder is a sin, theft is a sin, lying is a sin, adultery is a sin, disobeying your parents is a sin. But if anyone did these things, no one would be wronged but god? Your logic is flawed.

Murder is a sin, theft is a sin, lying is a sin, adultery is a sin, disobeying your parents is a sin. But if anyone did these things, no one would be wronged but god? Your logic is flawed.

How do you make peace with someone you kill? To understand my logic you have to seperate your life into the ways of man (the life we see with other people) and the seperate spiritual life (the life God sees).

If you murder someone, you have wronged his loved ones, friends, and family. Those are the people you would have to make peace with. Do you think before you post?

How do you make peace with someone you kill? To understand my logic you have to seperate your life into the ways of man (the life we see with other people) and the seperate spiritual life (the life God sees).

A true christian would live both lives as one and the same.

A true christian would live both lives as one and the same.


Why do you think I'm not?

If you murder someone, you have wronged his loved ones, friends, and family. Those are the people you would have to make peace with. Do you think before you post?

I don't understand what the point of making peace is if there is no God. Why should I care? I don't murder people because I know there is a God who will judge me.

Why do you think I'm not?

because you seem to be ignoring the human world in your comment about sin earlier.

I don't understand what the point of making peace is if there is no God. Why should I care? I don't murder people because I know there is a God who will judge me.

I can have compassion without believing in a god. You should not murder because its wrong, not out of fear.

Just because someone doesn't believe in god doesn't mean they are a bad person. You really dont understand that do you?

because you seem to be ignoring the human world in your comment about sin earlier.

I'm not ignoring the human world I just don't care about what humans think. I care what God thinks and that's the only reason I don't sin. By doing this I'm not wronging anyone and I don't have a reason to make peace with anyone. My past sins no longer exist and to dwell on them would be an insult to Christs sacrifice. If there is anyone I wronged in my past I'm just going to have hope they can forgive me. I forgive anyone that has ever wronged me because I would be a hippocrate not to forgive them and expecting God's forgiveness at the same time.

I can have compassion without believing in a god. You should not murder because its wrong, not out of fear.



There is no reason to think murder is wrong without faith in Gods laws.

Just because someone doesn't believe in god doesn't mean they are a bad person. You really dont understand that do you?

This I can agree with and it's the reason we shouldn't judge people. But there is no one on earth that is without sin.

There is no reason to think murder is wrong without faith in Gods laws.

Thats foolish. If there is no reason for someone to die then they shouldn't die, regardless of faith. You are a sociopath i believe.

This I can agree with and it's the reason we shouldn't judge people. But there is no one on earth that is without sin.
I don't sin.

Do you live on mars then?

Thats foolish. If there is no reason for someone to die then they shouldn't die, regardless of faith. You are a sociopath i believe.

If you don't like someone, why shouldn't you kill them if nothing would happen to you?



Do you live on mars then?


True repentance will result in a change of actions.

If you don't like someone, why shouldn't you kill them if nothing would happen to you?.

What if his family comes after you to kill you and they take it a step further and kill your whole family? Not only did you hurt yourself but you also damned your entire family just because you didn't like someone.

You've got a lot of growing up to do.

True repentance will result in a change of actions.

Way to avoid the question. Are you without sin?

Do you ever think impure thoughts about beautiful women?
Do you spread videos of violence?
Are you married, and if not do you have sex?
Do you masturbate?
Do you desire the possessions of others?
Do you think about murdering others (we all know the answer to this one is yes)?

What if his family comes after you to kill you and they take it a step further and kill your whole family? Not only did you hurt yourself but you also damned your entire family just because you didn't like someone.

You've got a lot of growing up to do.

What if they do? I have no afterlife so does it really matter? I'm only using your logic to come up with situations to better understand your point of view. Heres one situation that proves your lack of common sense. Say a man named "tom" was pissed off becase his neighbor had a nicer car so he killes this guy. From his point of view he did the right thing. No one found out it was Tom and nothing ever happened to him. Everything worked out nice for him so how was Tom wrong?



Can't you understand your not making any sense? If you had a clue what you were talking about I might just say I disagree with you.

Way to avoid the question. Are you without sin?

Do you ever think impure thoughts about beautiful women?
Do you spread videos of violence?
Are you married, and if not do you have sex?
Do you masturbate?
Do you desire the possessions of others?
Do you think about murdering others (we all know the answer to this one is yes)?



God only knows whats in my heart and thats the only judgment I fear, not yours. Unless you are without sin you have no right to judge.

im not judging and im not saying im without sin. You are the one saying you are without sin. I am trying to understand how you are sinless. But good job avoiding the question again.

I just don't care about what humans think.

What about the golden rule?

im not judging and im not saying im without sin. You are the one saying you are without sin. I am trying to understand how you are sinless. But good job avoiding the question again.

I'm not saying I'm without sin, I am like everyone else. I have repented from my sins though and it wasn't easy.

What about the golden rule?

What about it?

If you don't like someone, why shouldn't you kill them if nothing would happen to you?






True repentance will result in a change of actions.


Why would you blantantly disobey one of Gods commandments and then believe your actions could be deemed inconsequential?
Thats ridiculous.
Or do u believe that u can do what u like and then simply expect to be forgiven all because u believe in a fairy tale gospel?

What if they do? I have no afterlife so does it really matter? I'm only using your logic to come up with situations to better understand your point of view. Heres one situation that proves your lack of common sense. Say a man named "tom" was pissed off becase his neighbor had a nicer car so he killes this guy. From his point of view he did the right thing. No one found out it was Tom and nothing ever happened to him. Everything worked out nice for him so how was Tom wrong?



Can't you understand your not making any sense? If you had a clue what you were talking about I might just say I disagree with you.

The situation you just described most likely happens all the time. And even from "Tom's" point of view its still wrong. Killing someone because he has a nice car is not a good reason to kill someone. There is never a good reason to kill someone. What doesn't make sense?

What about it?

if you want others to respect your opinion should you respect theirs? especially if you've wronged them.

I'm not saying I'm without sin, I am like everyone else. I have repented from my sins though and it wasn't easy.

I don't sin.

Explain.

The situation you just described most likely happens all the time. And even from "Tom's" point of view its still wrong. [/] Killing someone because he has a nice car is not a good reason to kill someone[/B]. There is never a good reason to kill someone. What doesn't make sense?


Tom thought it was a good reason. Who are you to say he was wrong?

Explain.

Repent-

1: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life
2 a: to feel regret or contrition b: to change one's mind
transitive verb
1: to cause to feel regret or contrition
2: to feel sorrow, regret, or contrition for

if you want others to respect your opinion should you respect theirs? especially if you've wronged them.

I do respect other people opinions becuse I believe in freedom, WHATS YOUR POINT? I don't wrong other people because it's a sin, if I didn't think it was then maby I would wrong them it wouldn't really matter.

I do respect other people opinions becuse I believe in freedom, WHATS YOUR POINT? I don't wrong other people because it's a sin, if I didn't think it was then maby I would wrong them it wouldn't really matter.

I just don't care about what humans think.

My point is you are contradicting yourself.

Tom thought it was a good reason. Who are you to say he was wrong?

Well if all you need is a good reason to kill someone then go ahead and kill whomever you please. I don't believe there is any good reason to kill another person. This is my belief, continue to judge it if you please.

Repent-

1: to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life
2 a: to feel regret or contrition b: to change one's mind
transitive verb
1: to cause to feel regret or contrition
2: to feel sorrow, regret, or contrition for

isn't it a little arrogant to say you dont sin?

My point is you are contradicting yourself.

I know you are not this dumb please try to think. I respect other peoples opinions because we have freedom of speech. I don't care what other people think because they are not here to judge me. This is NOT a contradiction.

I know you are not this dumb please try to think. I respect other peoples opinions because we have freedom of speech. I don't care what other people think because they are not here to judge me. This is NOT a contradiction.

what you are saying is you dont respect what they are saying just that they have the right to say it. The why you put it is a contradiction. You cannot respect something and not care about it.

Well if all you need is a good reason to kill someone then go ahead and kill whomever you please. I don't believe there is any good reason to kill another person. This is my belief, continue to judge it if you please.

Can't you see the difference between Judging someone to be a sinner and teaching someone what sin is? I would never judge you I would only try to help you reject sin. I'm trying to make you see that with your logic Murder is not wrong. Of coarse we know murder is wrong and the ONLY reason it is wrong is because God tells us it is with his words and in out heart.

isn't it a little arrogant to say you dont sin?

Isn't is alot arrogant for you to judge me?

what you are saying is you dont respect what they are saying just that they have the right to say it. The why you put it is a contradiction. You cannot respect something and not care about it.

Sure I can. I respect your right to be wrong but I don't lose sleep over it.

Isn't is alot arrogant for you to judge me?

If my question was judging you then your question is now judging me. So now you have lied about sining, and judged me.

Can't you see the difference between Judging someone to be a sinner and teaching someone what sin is? I would never judge you I would only try to help you reject sin. I'm trying to make you see that with your logic Murder is not wrong. Of coarse we know murder is wrong and the ONLY reason it is wrong is because God tells us it is with his words and in out heart.

Faith in god is not necessary to believe that murder is wrong. What you are doing is dangerous. What if i was weak minded and you convinced me that killing is ok? Many could have died as a direct cause of your dogmatic attempts to... well i dont really know what it is youre trying to do. But as a christian you should be happy that I know killing is wrong. Why is not important to me. Maybe you need a reason not to kill, i do not.

nhilism is a cop out.

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That Reminds Me of the Big Lebowski

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VERE IS DE MUNEY LEBOWSKI?!?!?!

I'm not ignoring the human world I just don't care about what humans think. I care what God thinks and that's the only reason I don't sin. By doing this I'm not wronging anyone and I don't have a reason to make peace with anyone. My past sins no longer exist and to dwell on them would be an insult to Christs sacrifice. If there is anyone I wronged in my past I'm just going to have hope they can forgive me. I forgive anyone that has ever wronged me because I would be a hippocrate not to forgive them and expecting God's forgiveness at the same time.

So the only thing stopping you from murdering your enemies is the fear of the wrath of god?

Pretty sad state of affairs my friend

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Careful man, there's a beverage here!

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Lame > Nhilism

Maybe you need a reason not to kill, i do not.

What constitutes as a reason?

I dont think it matters since there is no good reason for killing.

Judoka: are you a pacifist?

Judoka: are you a pacifist?

yep.

Okay, cool.

except on chatboards right Judoka. .

except on chatboards right Judoka. .

oh snap

except on chatboards right Judoka. .

I don't understand how one can not be a pacifist on a chat board. If you consider an argument online to be a violent aggressive act then I guess i understand.

i constantly say there is no good reason to kill someone. The christians here tell me otherwise. I defend my belief. I believe laws come from reason and experience, not divinity.