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dylan 07-10-2008, 02:43 AM I'll be making a training log on here, just so i can look back on my past sessions and so the fellow ninjabro's can get some insight.
Today I took just one class, Muay-Thai. Basic stuff. We Practicing different combos, switch kicks, leg jabs with front and rear leg. The people that take classes here are very nice, mostly young cats. I talked to the Instructor of our class today, introduced myself and he asked me if I had any prior experience. I told him it was like my 4th class here, and he said that I did pretty well today. So I just gotta keep it up, get my cario up to par, and make sure I make good use of these classes.
I was going to take the BJJ class that followed it, but I felt too drained. My cardio isn't where I want it to be, so I'll need to start running in the mornings to offset that predicament.
any questions? shout em out and i'll try to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
hotnewton 07-10-2008, 05:48 AM Good stuff man.
As for my Av.
That's Ninja. Aussie changed a bunch of our avs to Ninja. Then Ferg took mine one step further with hearts and stuff. I post with images and sigs and avs off cause I'm at work so I didn't notice until the other day. I was going to write BATISTA BOMB on the pic and change it when I got home from work but Ferg beat me to it so I figure I'll leave it for awhile.
Judoka 07-10-2008, 09:53 AM not to hate on you or anything i just find it funny that every fight n00b's style is Muay-Thai/BJJ. I suppose they are the quickest to learn and implement effectively for a beginner but definitely do not get stuck on these two styles. Get your base (you've chosen a good one) then branch out. No style is better than another. Keep an open mind and learn something each time you train, no matter what style it is you are training.
My base is in TKD/Karate. After doing these and establishing a base as a youngster i was able to expand my game by cross training and learning as much as i could from as many people as possible.
You seem to be off to a good start! Just keep an open mind and the world of martial arts is endless.
TapOut136 07-10-2008, 12:11 PM No style is better than another in the existential and esoteric fashion that Bruce Lee made generalizations about. But if we are talking specifically about training for MMA competition as an organized sport in 2008 - then yes certain styles are better than others.
An individual’s choices about training are inexorably zero-sum decisions. Choosing to train one style means not training any others in that specific period of time. The logical extension of this is that we know even for people that train BJJ 2-3 times a day from the time they begin (e.g. BJ Penn and Demian Maia) it will still take 4.5-5 years to obtain a black belt. There also seems to be mounting anecdotal evidence based on the way leading camps and various champions train that MMA is not a “style” it is a composite of various styles that need to be trained separately. Also, it would naïve to underestimate the influence that biological factors such anatomy, biomechanics, and neurophysiology has on an individual’s aptitude in a given style.
Clearly, an individual can begin to make rational determinations about what style is better based basic factors such as availability, opportunity cost, risk, socialization, location, education and income level, psychological factors (including motivation, decision making, personality, sensation, perception, and others).
TapOut136 07-10-2008, 12:12 PM No style is better than another in the existential and esoteric fashion that Bruce Lee made generalizations about. But if we are talking specifically about training for MMA competition as an organized sport in 2008 - then yes certain styles are better than others.
An individual’s choices about training are inexorably zero-sum decisions. Choosing to train one style means not training any others in that specific period of time. The logical extension of this is that we know even for people that train BJJ 2-3 times a day from the time they begin (e.g. BJ Penn and Demian Maia) it will still take 4.5-5 years to obtain a black belt. There also seems to be mounting anecdotal evidence based on the way leading camps and various champions train that MMA is not a “style” it is a composite of various styles that need to be trained separately. Also, it would naïve to underestimate the influence that biological factors such anatomy, biomechanics, and neurophysiology has on an individual’s aptitude in a given style.
Clearly, an individual can begin to make rational determinations about what style is better based basic factors such as availability, opportunity cost, risk, socialization, location, education and income level, psychological factors (including motivation, decision making, personality, sensation, perception, and others).
hotnewton 07-10-2008, 12:40 PM epic double post.
dylan 07-10-2008, 03:48 PM Tapout136 and Judoka, I really appreciate the posts. I know that muay-thai/bjj is a bit overdone, but this gym is only a mile away from my house, making the commute pain-free on the wallet due to the bloody gas prices.
The gym teaches muay-thai, boxing, bjj and has advanced classes for these as well as conditioning classes and an mma class.
After just 4 classes, I can already see improvements in my body, I have more energy, and I seem to be not as "shelled" as i used to be.
Tom Stall 07-10-2008, 05:54 PM judoka just wants to teach you karate.....
dylan 07-10-2008, 06:08 PM judoka just wants to teach you karate.....
booooo, unless its shotokan or kyokushin
Tom Stall 07-11-2008, 06:35 AM booooo, unless its shotokan or kyokushin
honestly shotokan is kinda lame..... please don't bring up machida.
dylan 07-11-2008, 07:36 PM I was going to post last night, but unfortunately the power went out at my house round 1pm on thursday. The power company said we may not have power till saturday night. So i'm at my bro's townhouse right now, i'll probably stay here till the power turns back on.
So i had Muay-Thai yesterday. There was a lot of people there and a bunch of the more advanced students used focus mitts instead of the muay-thai bags. Basic stuff like i said before, but essential fundamentals. I can feel my body getting used to the classes, and my cardio, while still nothing to brag about, has gotten a little better.
One drill we did that I thought was pretty grueling was we started out with a jab-cross combo 5x, then 5x rear leg kicks, 5x switch kicks, followed by 5x hop skip knees. The instructor pointed out that we should be able to do 4 sets of each, so you'd have to get through each part (jab-cross 5x, rear leg kick 5x, 5x switch kick, 5x skip knees) in about 15 seconds. I made it thru the 1st minute, but not the second minute. But Pat said that newer students should just go at your own pace. I took her advice but still went at it hard.
After thinking about it, Conditioning is probably the biggest key right now. If i can improve my conditioning, it'll make the classes easier, thus i can push harder during them.
7-11-08 1:35 pm cst.
Tom Stall 07-11-2008, 11:16 PM your muay thai coach is a woman?
Judoka 07-11-2008, 11:18 PM honestly shotokan is kinda lame..... please don't bring up machida.
Well bringing up Machida would be unfair. He's been doing it since he could walk. He wasn't taught in a big McDojo either, he learned it old school. I wouldn't recommend Karate to Dylan because it takes too long to get good. And once you're good at fighting the other Karate people in your school you have to get good at using Karate to fight other styles. It would be a pain in the ass for him to start now. Karate is effective but only the subject has a mastery of the art which could take a decade or more. The only reason I fight with a Karate style is because I've been doing it since I was 5.
For starting when you are i think you've chosen your styles well.
tropicana619 07-11-2008, 11:32 PM I don't, but why doesn't anybody seem to train wrestling?
How are you supposed to apply BJJ without getting to the ground, first?
Tom Stall 07-12-2008, 12:32 AM most places don't teach wrestling. in nyc there isn't any wrestling schools. maybe one place but its the olympic center
dylan 07-12-2008, 03:33 AM your muay thai coach is a woman?
she is one of many that teach there.
Tom Stall 07-12-2008, 04:04 AM whats her name?
dylan 07-12-2008, 06:13 AM whats her name?
Pat Webber
Tom Stall 07-12-2008, 06:21 AM Pat Webber
is she hot?
Judoka 07-13-2008, 11:22 AM I don't, but why doesn't anybody seem to train wrestling?
How are you supposed to apply BJJ without getting to the ground, first?
I do judo. Thats wrestling...in pajamas. I train without the gi too though.
Tom Stall 07-13-2008, 11:25 AM i would have to disagree with you on that. judo isn't exactly wrestling but its closer to wrestling than bjj.
dylan 07-14-2008, 01:38 AM Over the weekend, I had to stain the back of my 'rents house. So I didn't do any training on friday or sat. Earlier today (7-13) I just worked on the heavy bag for a good 20 min., just got a nice sweat goin. Tomorrow i was planning on going to muay-thai at 10, but i have a dentist appt. at 830 so im not sure if i'll be able to make that.
I'm thinking of skipping the muay-thai session tomorrow at 6 and instead go to the bjj class at 7 when im at full strength. the 1st time i did the bjj class, i was real tired cuz it was my first time takin classes their. I just want to see if there is any difference in how i do instead of tryin muay-thai and then straight into bjj. I plan on doing both this wednesday though.
I have also been watching some of Demian Maia's Science of Jiu-Jitsu. Its real real informative and actually on the 1st part (defending the guard pass) i learned a few things while rolling from this DVD.
You should go to the dentist after they knock your teeth out not before.
dylan 07-14-2008, 03:38 AM You should go to the dentist after they knock your teeth out not before.
:rofl:
im goin to the dentist early in the morning, and am going to bjj at night. Im not goin to muay thai because im going to the dentist.
dylan 07-16-2008, 04:54 PM I had boxing last night. We worked on basic combinations. Started with jump ropin and shadow boxing. Since their was an odd # of people, i was left without a partner to do the mitts with, so i was paired up with the owner of the gym. I was shown a few things from him which i think will help me. I need to stick my jab out more and learn into my punches a little bit more, for more power. At the end we did conditioning, continous punching, crunches. I think 100 crunches when i wake up in the morning should help out.
dylan 07-17-2008, 02:44 AM just got back from BJJ. Man was that a workout. my 2nd bjj class, i faired much much better. We worked on open and butterfly guard, and using your forearm to evade a shoot by using ur forearm on the side of their head. I really liked the butterfly guard, i feel i'm able to utilize it well. I was able to get out of bad positions and was able to get mount on numerous occasions. Since im only about 140 lbs., all the guys their were bigger than i was. Which i actually liked, since it'll be a little tougher for me, but i know it'll help me in the long run. Towards the end of the class, we alternated different guys for each minute, so after a minute u'd roll with another guy. The 2 i had most problems with was one guy who was 205 lbs. I was actually able to mount him and maintain my balance for a while, but then he mounted me and said "now your dead", and he let me back up. he did ask if i wrestled before, i haven't, but he said i had really good balance. The other guy, the last guy i grappled with, i could tell he knew what he was doing. He moved pretty slow, but i could feel his every move but i was unable to counter him. I had a few submission attempts: guillotine, which we worked on today; a rear naked choke, an armbar, and i even tried the omoplata but i felt i wasn't gonna get it so i just went back to full guard.
PS - i bought some stevia earlier today. you know, that stuff dan quinn is always yappin about. not bad, not bad at all my ninjabruddahs.
Judoka 07-18-2008, 04:56 AM i would have to disagree with you on that. judo isn't exactly wrestling but its closer to wrestling than bjj.
judo is a different form of wrestling. true story.
Tom Stall 07-18-2008, 06:37 AM just got back from BJJ. Man was that a workout. my 2nd bjj class, i faired much much better. We worked on open and butterfly guard, and using your forearm to evade a shoot by using ur forearm on the side of their head. I really liked the butterfly guard, i feel i'm able to utilize it well. I was able to get out of bad positions and was able to get mount on numerous occasions. Since im only about 140 lbs., all the guys their were bigger than i was. Which i actually liked, since it'll be a little tougher for me, but i know it'll help me in the long run. Towards the end of the class, we alternated different guys for each minute, so after a minute u'd roll with another guy. The 2 i had most problems with was one guy who was 205 lbs. I was actually able to mount him and maintain my balance for a while, but then he mounted me and said "now your dead", and he let me back up. he did ask if i wrestled before, i haven't, but he said i had really good balance. The other guy, the last guy i grappled with, i could tell he knew what he was doing. He moved pretty slow, but i could feel his every move but i was unable to counter him. I had a few submission attempts: guillotine, which we worked on today; a rear naked choke, an armbar, and i even tried the omoplata but i felt i wasn't gonna get it so i just went back to full guard.
PS - i bought some stevia earlier today. you know, that stuff dan quinn is always yappin about. not bad, not bad at all my ninjabruddahs.
tell me more about stevia and if you are going crazy from it or anything....
dylan 07-18-2008, 06:50 AM tell me more about stevia and if you are going crazy from it or anything....
nope. its fine. just don't o.d. on it.
hotnewton 07-18-2008, 09:25 AM Where do I get Stevia?
dylan 07-19-2008, 05:47 AM Where do I get Stevia?
any health food store, or organic grocery. its a supplement, so look in that section.
dylan 07-21-2008, 01:23 AM sunday sunday sunday! since yesterday was mma day, i pretty much relaxed most of the day, played some gears of war ranked matches, then it was on like donkey kong with affliction:banned.
So today i decided to work on cardio. I worked on the heavy bag for a good 20 minutes, mostly just practicing my 1-2 and just throwing that for 30 second intervals. After that i wasn't satisfied.
So i turned on Bas Ruttens All around workout routine 1. its basically a cardio test and works all facets of mma. I wasn't goin all out tho, just making sure i CAN get through it. I did, was pretty sweaty after.
Tom Stall 07-23-2008, 06:10 PM dont tell newton where to get it. hes just lookin for a reason to be crazy
dylan 07-23-2008, 11:05 PM dont tell newton where to get it. hes just lookin for a reason to be crazy
i went to an organic foods store and bought pure stevia extract. like $13 but it's got about 950 servings. so it'll last you 2-3 years.
i would not recommend overdosing however. it says to take one serving daily, i usually take 2-3.
hotnewton 07-24-2008, 01:44 AM dont tell newton where to get it. hes just lookin for a reason to be crazy
:howrude:
hotnewton 07-24-2008, 01:45 AM i went to an organic foods store and bought pure stevia extract. like $13 but it's got about 950 servings. so it'll last you 2-3 years.
i would not recommend overdosing however. it says to take one serving daily, i usually take 2-3.
I'm going to snort this shit off strippers nipples.
WAR STEVIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
I'm gonna call out Dan Quinn soon via Youtube.
dylan 07-24-2008, 02:25 AM I'm going to snort this shit off strippers nipples.
WAR STEVIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
I'm gonna call out Dan Quinn soon via Youtube.
good luck with that hotnewton
dylan 07-24-2008, 02:37 AM had muay thai and BJJ today.
a lot of ladies in the muay thai class, probably 6 or 7. shitty thing is i can't see shit without my glasses so i wasn't able to see how they really looked till the class ended and i put my glasses back on. MEH....
muay thai was pretty basic, cardio is the name of the game folks.
in bjj we practiced armbars, escaping side control. one of the escapes you basically roll onto your stomach and as you get back on your back you pull guard at the same time. sounds confusing but once you do it once or twice, its a lot better.
their was one chick in the bjj class, since i was close to her size i rolled with her for a little bit. she had very good technique and understanding of what to do. funny thing was one time she started out in side control and i tried to get back to guard but instead i just swept her and got her in side control.
hotnewton 07-24-2008, 02:47 AM I can't wait to start my training log. A month and a bit guys.
Wait for see.
dylan 07-24-2008, 02:48 AM I can't wait to start my training log. A month and a bit guys.
Wait for see.
saweet hotnewton. what are u thinking of training in btw?
hotnewton 07-24-2008, 02:54 AM There's a little boxing gym turned MMA gym where I am moving. They have a couple guys there that fight in KOTC and other lower level Canadian shows.
They have a BJJ coach. Wrestling coach. Muay Thai coach. Boxing coach.
I'm also planning on taking some dance classes. Ballet, Hip hop, Contemporary. To work on different strength, balance, and flexibility. And to meet girls.
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