ninjashoes
09-06-2006, 11:27 PM
uughh roger gracie?
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View Full Version : worlds best grappler? ninjashoes 09-06-2006, 11:27 PM uughh roger gracie? VMA 09-06-2006, 11:32 PM roger and jacare are up there for sure with xande coming behind KyleMMA 09-06-2006, 11:44 PM Sakuraba VENDO 09-07-2006, 02:50 AM garcia.. kimo 09-07-2006, 03:19 AM Roger Gracie Jugo 09-08-2006, 12:52 AM For pure grappling most likely Roger hbenjaafar 09-08-2006, 05:56 AM gotta be the current abu-dabi champ Ŧħє Łєшãŋđσẅsķį 09-09-2006, 04:20 PM Roger easily xhale 09-09-2006, 11:21 PM as much as i hate to say it... roger gracie... Resin 09-09-2006, 11:26 PM Sakuraba would sub him. TKO83 09-10-2006, 02:05 AM Gotta go with Marcelo Garcia Deception 09-10-2006, 08:38 AM How could you go against Roger Gracie? Resin 09-10-2006, 11:44 AM sakuraba by armbar CHE 09-10-2006, 11:46 AM chuck liddel Resin 09-10-2006, 11:48 AM Steve Irwin CHE 09-10-2006, 11:50 AM Steve Irwin hahaha i was waitin for that Resin 09-10-2006, 11:51 AM haha steve irwin by RNC! CHE 09-10-2006, 11:53 AM haha steve irwin by RNC! steve irwin > fedor Resin 09-10-2006, 12:22 PM I think steve could take him. KyleMMA 09-10-2006, 09:37 PM Sakuraba by Kimura VMA 09-11-2006, 06:39 AM please guys no whoring here SolitaryIndividual 09-11-2006, 06:58 AM roger gracie Shogunownes 09-11-2006, 10:11 AM Giant Silva Resin 09-11-2006, 10:13 AM I think Sakuraba is up there in the grappling world. chinkoo 09-15-2006, 04:18 AM teh monson lightsout 09-15-2006, 06:19 PM roger Resin 09-16-2006, 06:34 AM rickson Cameron 09-26-2006, 01:12 AM i would say jacare and roger are tied. with gacria 2nd MMA~FAN 09-26-2006, 07:47 AM ever - probably Rickson or Rolls Gracie right now- Roger Gracie dDuecy 09-26-2006, 09:55 PM ROger owns at the ground, he is the best Mr SlippyFist 10-02-2006, 03:08 AM Marcelo Garcia easy. Jacare next......THEN Roger. Roger has a big size advantage on Jac and Garcia especially. Garcia done pretty well against Roger in their match despite the size difference. Jacare vs Roger matches swing back and forth, Jacare's size disadvantage gives him the edge overall. SolitaryIndividual 10-02-2006, 04:30 AM size has nothing to do with it here ... the question is who is the best, and if roger defeats garcia then he is better than garcia tropicana619 10-02-2006, 07:26 PM Best grappler is Marcelo Garcia. Mr SlippyFist 10-02-2006, 08:06 PM size has nothing to do with it here ... the question is who is the best, and if roger defeats garcia then he is better than garcia No, it does matter, this is grappling. At his size Garcia is a better grappler than Roger.....full stop. Of course larger men will usually defeat smaller ones. The question should have been in that case "Who is the best heavyweight grappler in the world?" SolitaryIndividual 10-02-2006, 08:53 PM No, it does matter, this is grappling. At his size Garcia is a better grappler than Roger.....full stop. Of course larger men will usually defeat smaller ones. The question should have been in that case "Who is the best heavyweight grappler in the world?" except that WASN'T the question ... it was who is the best grappler in the world ... no weight divisions, no ages, no nationalities, just who is the best ... thats it Mr SlippyFist 10-02-2006, 11:32 PM Usually that question is meant in a "pound for pound" context. abman321 10-03-2006, 05:41 PM garcia through sheer tenacity Mr SlippyFist 10-04-2006, 02:21 AM More backing for Marcelo here......vs Vitor Shaolin Ribeiro...behold... <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/X_8O-fq-NI4"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/X_8O-fq-NI4" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> SolitaryIndividual 10-04-2006, 04:56 AM check this out for sure http://www.bjj.eu.com/index.php?opti...=202&Itemid=44 thats some backing for roger SolitaryIndividual 10-04-2006, 05:30 AM check this out too, marcelo definitely held his own, but he was dominated on points <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_3hfXYoshzk"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_3hfXYoshzk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Fantouz 10-08-2006, 11:40 PM I would also add my vote for Roger, he tends to finish most ofl his fights by subs and doesn't go for points. I forgot which competition he won by submitting all his opponents, which had never happened before. His size is an advantage but is not the only reason why he is on top of the grappling world. Werdum is a big boy and he got RNCd by Roger. Are you saying that only the bigger athletes are the best in grappling? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Size is a factor but not the only factor. This is not American football mate. Stop hating and finding crap excuses, Roger is currently the best. End of story. And the question is not usually asked in a "pound for pound" context unless it is specified ie. Who is the best p4p grappler/boxer/fighter/dancer in the world? SolitaryIndividual 10-09-2006, 02:35 AM yeah, grappling has long been known as a sport where size isnt necessarily an advantage, and yeah to agree with fantouz, anytime ive seen someone wanting to know who the best pound for pound whatever is the specify that they mean P4P ... toofastfiveoh 10-09-2006, 10:57 PM Rickson Swampeast 10-17-2006, 03:41 AM Alexander Karelin...............HANDS DOWN!!!! The Fire 10-22-2006, 08:03 AM 1. Roger Gracie 2. Jacare 3. Marcello Garcia Murray 10-26-2006, 12:22 AM I think Arona could prove his worth in a no time limit to the death grappling tourney. That'd be the only way to light a fire under his ass and get him to finish people. bispo 10-26-2006, 01:13 AM Garcia p4p ftw VTXRaider 10-27-2006, 05:00 AM I like Garcia and Xande continues to improve every time out hado3 11-07-2006, 06:55 AM jacare or marcelo garcia are by far the 2 best no one else then those to can do so good against heavier guys the always dominate the absolute division SolitaryIndividual 11-13-2006, 10:04 AM how do they dominate the absolute division if roger beats them?? Resin 11-13-2006, 11:51 AM ricksonbyarmbar aussjj 11-16-2006, 10:22 PM how do you think Sakuraba would stack up (p4p that is)? He doesnt get credit as a top grappler cause he doesnt enter grappling comps, but he proves it in mma. If strikes were not allowed, then he wouldve held his own against Arona, and hes 20 lbs lighter. Hardcore-Muay-Thai 11-16-2006, 11:50 PM marcelo garcia look him up on youtube or shiya aoki is good nismospeed5spd 11-17-2006, 12:43 AM rickson, or helio. duh, and ryan just becuase he is crazy Perko 11-17-2006, 02:01 AM best grappler currently fighting issssssss nah i cant say it i dont like him....he has been mentioned here enough Bruno_Barbarian 11-23-2006, 02:41 AM LOL at Sakuraba, Garcia hands down tobias 11-23-2006, 05:10 PM Garcie, jacare, xande VENDO 12-04-2006, 05:21 AM Roger gracie, garcia, jacare, xande. But roger grappled and submitted everyone he fought, first person in adcc to do that in history, and in todays competition that is one hell of an accomplishmenet. skunknuts[ADR] 12-04-2006, 05:36 AM Ricksonbyarmbar , Roger, or Jacare, but they all take second to shanewest Shogun_Rules_ 12-05-2006, 11:05 PM kenny florian j.griff 12-07-2006, 02:28 PM roger gracie......:gives: :gives: Jason 12-18-2006, 06:48 PM Gotta go with Pe De Pano thunder126 12-20-2006, 04:40 AM Gota go with Roger right now UrbanX 12-29-2006, 06:44 PM Although there are many...there can be only one. Until he too falls from his pedestal, Roger Gracie. boomboom 12-31-2006, 08:41 PM roger gracie fighter19 01-11-2007, 05:22 AM gracie Resin 01-11-2007, 12:39 PM Fedor by death Cameron 02-01-2007, 05:48 PM jacare roger xander garcia shinya aoki u4s4 02-04-2007, 04:49 AM Jacare. graciegirl 02-04-2007, 08:35 AM Marcelo Garcia Resin 02-04-2007, 10:09 AM Marcelo Garcia He probably is the best right now. VENDO 02-04-2007, 12:18 PM nope roger gracie is. Resin 02-04-2007, 12:33 PM do you think roger gracie could submit fedor in a pure grappling match? andreazz 02-04-2007, 01:32 PM Aoki- maybe his not the best but i love his style:) i think that some day he will win the adcc VENDO 02-05-2007, 10:14 AM do you think roger gracie could submit fedor in a pure grappling match? Yeah with ease! Fedor's grappling isn't great, and roger my friend is the best!! He beat marcelo, jacare twice, made aoki look like an amatuer little boy. Jacare made werdum look like a kid, and roger pwned jacare with ease. Roger's grappling accomplishments are amazing I can go down on all the list of accomplishments, he was the first ever to sub all 8 participants in a row in a tournament in the history of adcc. Shogunownes 02-05-2007, 10:40 AM jacare....his style is badass Sloth 02-15-2007, 06:28 AM I'm no expert, but my favorite grappler to watch is definitely Roger Gracie. CHE 02-15-2007, 06:31 AM Marcelo Garcia http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/DaTRU1/postpics.jpg Sloth 02-15-2007, 06:33 AM I don't know how he rates competition wise against guys like Gracie, Garcia, etc...but I like watching footage of the Camarillo bros also. Awesome Judo, awesome BJJ and awesome transitions from one to the other. I've never met them, but they look like great overall grapplers. bc32football 02-15-2007, 05:35 PM Roger Gracie. sHoGuNzbeTTaH 02-16-2007, 04:52 AM Arona leedor 02-16-2007, 11:21 PM roger gracie BRN 02-17-2007, 05:24 AM sorry if this was laready posted but i culdnt resist..... RICKSON BY ARMBAR Resin 02-17-2007, 06:02 AM ricksonbyarmbar Bruce Lee 02-17-2007, 06:05 AM Cael Sanderson Dan Gable MurdA713 02-20-2007, 02:41 AM its tough not to say roger gracie... aussjj 02-20-2007, 03:18 AM everyone will disagree but im still gonna say sakuraba is way up there. he has never been subbed, has subbed tons of bjj guys, has only been outwrestled by randleman who outweighed him, has never been outgrappled, even by arona, who also outweighed him. sakuraba has never lost from grappling. FLemshady 02-26-2007, 05:39 PM Marcello Garcia or Roger Gracie Cameron 02-27-2007, 04:22 AM jacare and aoki are my vote mullard 03-01-2007, 02:49 AM Eddie Bravo is a Badass Hater_Huntin 03-01-2007, 05:47 AM Roger has to be considered the top grappler right now. I see Xande giving him a run for his money soon. Hardcore-Muay-Thai 03-01-2007, 05:58 AM marcelo garcia ?? hes the man VENDO 03-01-2007, 06:32 AM marcelo garcia ?? hes the man Roger gracie beat all the above. I don't know how people are not saying him. He his huge as well. Sloth 03-01-2007, 08:04 AM I just saw Marcelo Garcias last match at the Grapplers quest this month and damn is he good! kopman 03-01-2007, 02:43 PM p4p Marcelo Garcia, fools LiftedRg 03-08-2007, 07:21 PM sorry if this was laready posted but i culdnt resist..... RICKSON BY ARMBAR +1 Chaz 03-10-2007, 12:05 AM Arona in my opinion, he will just lay on anyone for 15 minutes and get the win. VENDO 03-10-2007, 12:25 AM Arona in my opinion, he will just lay on anyone for 15 minutes and get the win. Yeah pretty much. He was undefeated in adcc. Mostly all of them won on points, and he grappled against the best. |