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that looks pretty funny. Although it is easy to edit people out of context to comic effect. I can't wait to see the fundamentalist backlash. Like the pope excommunicating the members of Monty Python for "Life of Brian". Being british the were most likely anglicans; thus excommunicated from birth, if they were religious at all.

I think you and your cohert are like 15 or something around that age. Just a guess but I bet I'm spot on.

I think you and your cohert are like 15 or something around that age. Just a guess but I bet I'm spot on.


no. I'm 45 and a college instructor. But that's alright, I guess you were just trying to be spiteful.

I think you and your cohert are like 15 or something around that age. Just a guess but I bet I'm spot on.

I think you are a gas-pumper is Texas who pretends to be a 7'6" black guy who acted on walker Texas Ranger. In fact, I have evidence to back this up--it's more than a guess.

I think you are a gas-pumper is Texas who pretends to be a 7'6" black guy who acted on walker Texas Ranger. In fact, I have evidence to back this up--it's more than a guess.

your cool,dude .I want to be a member of your church when you start one

no. I'm 45 and a college instructor. But that's alright, I guess you were just trying to be spiteful.

What do you teach?

What do you teach?

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No wonder you act childish. Well I guess you like it.

No wonder you act childish. Well I guess you like it.

is there some reason you feel the need to make personal attacks on me? I've not done that to you. Just because we have differing opinions about certain issues is no reason to be vindictive. Is this the way you respond to people face to face?

different atmosphere in a face to face, because in a face to face a person can tell sarcasm and see my comical genius, and rapier like wit. You however, do not have that luxury in an MMA forum. All you have is the words and your mood and mindset when reading the words. I wasn't aware this was a personal thread for you to poke fun in. My mistake. I will leave you to your excitement with your new "friend"

what a bitch, go back to your old fake book thumper

It's about damn time the media started standing up to religion. Maybe some of the idiots in the middle of this country will have their eyes opened by this movie. If not, at least we will get to laugh at them for awhile.

I sure hope so!

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It's about damn time the media started standing up to religion. Maybe some of the idiots in the middle of this country will have their eyes opened by this movie. If not, at least we will get to laugh at them for awhile.

Were you born yesterday? just wondering....

Were you born yesterday? just wondering....

you have no idea what standing up to religion would actually equate to if the media decided to pull their heads out of their asses.

Remember what they did to Koresh in Waco? Yeah multiply that by the amount of years christianity has been around and you might be somewhere close to the answer.

To be clear, I have nothing against Jesus. I do have a major problem with the people that used and distorted his message to control the populous however.

you have no idea what standing up to religion would actually equate to if the media decided to pull their heads out of their asses.

Remember what they did to Koresh in Waco? Yeah multiply that by the amount of years christianity has been around and you might be somewhere close to the answer.

To be clear, I have nothing against Jesus. I do have a major problem with the people that used and distorted his message to control the populous however.

exactly. how can a religion be pure if its followers have done terrible, terrible things in its name? crusades, spanish inquisition, incest, george w. bush, murder, matt hughes...

To be clear, I have nothing against Jesus. I do have a major problem with the people that used and distorted his message to control the populous however.


Who are these people and please provide evidence, thanks.

exactly. how can a religion be pure if its followers have done terrible, terrible things in its name? crusades, spanish inquisition, incest, george w. bush, murder, matt hughes...

People are sinners, thats why we need Jesus.

Who are these people and please provide evidence, thanks.

preachers, missionaries, politicians, soldiers... the list goes on and on. you just need to stop being so idealistic and recognize the earth for what it is: reality and nothing else.

preachers, missionaries, politicians, soldiers... the list goes on and on. you just need to stop being so idealistic and recognize the earth for what it is: reality and nothing else.

I understand your point of view better than you could possibly know, I have been there. Thanks for your concern.

I understand your point of view better than you could possibly know, I have been there. Thanks for your concern.

we all see earth through our own selective filters. don't tell me you know what mine or anybody else's POV.

Who are these people and please provide evidence, thanks.

- The writers of the bible

The creators of the bible laid out a framework for living your life that is simply not in line with what we have evolved into. I'll give a few examples below


- The roman catholic church (and subsequent churches thereafter)

That have used what jesus did to add their own moral ethical code to people's lives. What's worse is they control people by clamining the evil's they commit are in "god's name".

For example, execution of "heretics" for hundreds of years. Only reason Lutheranism is around today is because that heretic was popular in a time where the king of england was in disagreement with the roman church over his marriage and hence broke away.

Another example is celibacy for priests. We are not celibate creatures. We have hardware that seeks out pussy... and for good reason. If you mandate celibacy for priests you do two things:

1. Draw people to the cloth who are uninterested in the opposite sex in the first place and feel so guilty/ shamed by their desires that they seek the most pure place possible to clean themselves... which they think is the church. What happens when they get there is simply not what they expected. They still have the same urges they had before they got to the church and as a result you see the multitude of scandals we've seen in modern day with the cloth

2. You also send a message to the populace that sex is bad. It's dirty and if you commit it before "marriage" you are a sinner. What happens to sinners? Oh yeah they burn in hell. Why do they need to think that about something that we are naturally drawn to and that when taken with precaution has no adverse effects? Why do they need to have that weighing on their conscience? Isn't pimples enough to mess with teenagers? Let the kids fuck, my friend.

This is just one example, which in all honesty could use alot more explanation, but I hope you see where I'm going with it.

Weeb mentioned the crusades, but that's just one of the most well known examples. It really makes me sad how many people believe what the bible says because they need somewhere to turn, not because it makes sense logically. It speaks to how much work we have to do on a social level to pad our society and belief systems into something more appropriate for the hardware we've evolved into as hunter/gatherers (as opposed to our modern urban surroundings).

My point is that christianity is fundamentally flawed both inception and execution.

- The writers of the bible

The creators of the bible laid out a framework for living your life that is simply not in line with what we have evolved into. I'll give a few examples below


- The roman catholic church (and subsequent churches thereafter)

That have used what jesus did to add their own moral ethical code to people's lives. What's worse is they control people by clamining the evil's they commit are in "god's name".

For example, execution of "heretics" for hundreds of years. Only reason Lutheranism is around today is because that heretic was popular in a time where the king of england was in disagreement with the roman church over his marriage and hence broke away.

Another example is celibacy for priests. We are not celibate creatures. We have hardware that seeks out pussy... and for good reason. If you mandate celibacy for priests you do two things:

1. Draw people to the cloth who are uninterested in the opposite sex in the first place and feel so guilty/ shamed by their desires that they seek the most pure place possible to clean themselves... which they think is the church. What happens when they get there is simply not what they expected. They still have the same urges they had before they got to the church and as a result you see the multitude of scandals we've seen in modern day with the cloth

2. You also send a message to the populace that sex is bad. It's dirty and if you commit it before "marriage" you are a sinner. What happens to sinners? Oh yeah they burn in hell. Why do they need to think that about something that we are naturally drawn to and that when taken with precaution has no adverse effects? Why do they need to have that weighing on their conscience? Isn't pimples enough to mess with teenagers? Let the kids fuck, my friend.

This is just one example, which in all honesty could use alot more explanation, but I hope you see where I'm going with it.

Weeb mentioned the crusades, but that's just one of the most well known examples. It really makes me sad how many people believe what the bible says because they need somewhere to turn, not because it makes sense logically. It speaks to how much work we have to do on a social level to pad our society and belief systems into something more appropriate for the hardware we've evolved into as hunter/gatherers (as opposed to our modern urban surroundings).

My point is that christianity is fundamentally flawed both inception and execution.

spectacular argument. the bible applied to the uncivilized people of hundreds of years ago, it has no bearing today. example: honor thy mother and thy father. what if your parents are crack heads that abused you your whole life, do you still have to do as they wish because they are your parents?

those points have nothing to do with the Bible or Christ.

Sorry but you are mistaken.

those points have nothing to do with the Bible or Christ.

Sorry but you are mistaken.

In which part am I mistaken, care to elaborate?

re: christ, I said in an earlier post that I had nothing against him (if in fact he really did exist). That being said, the bible is full of contradictions and inept psychological propagandizing.

The sex before marriage issue I reference above is directly out of the bible. I'm surprised you don't know that. While we are on the topic of sex, what about homosexuality? If god creates all his creatures why won't he accept his gay ones? Why create something that you know you will be banishing to hell? Also, if you're gay, you're gay there's no changing that. You can send them to brainwashing camps in Idaho and they will still come back gayer than Christmas. So how can Jesus "accept all" if he can't accept gay people?

I can go on all day long with this, but that's obviously not necessary as you won't actually answer my response outside of a single blanket statement anyway.

In which part am I mistaken, care to elaborate?

re: christ, I said in an earlier post that I had nothing against him (if in fact he really did exist). That being said, the bible is full of contradictions and inept psychological propagandizing.

The sex before marriage issue I reference above is directly out of the bible. I'm surprised you don't know that. While we are on the topic of sex, what about homosexuality? If god creates all his creatures why won't he accept his gay ones? Why create something that you know you will be banishing to hell? Also, if you're gay, you're gay there's no changing that. You can send them to brainwashing camps in Idaho and they will still come back gayer than Christmas. So how can Jesus "accept all" if he can't accept gay people?

I can go on all day long with this, but that's obviously not necessary as you won't actually answer my response outside of a single blanket statement anyway.

i think you won

In which part am I mistaken, care to elaborate?

re: christ, I said in an earlier post that I had nothing against him (if in fact he really did exist). That being said, the bible is full of contradictions and inept psychological propagandizing.

The sex before marriage issue I reference above is directly out of the bible. I'm surprised you don't know that. While we are on the topic of sex, what about homosexuality? If god creates all his creatures why won't he accept his gay ones? Why create something that you know you will be banishing to hell? Also, if you're gay, you're gay there's no changing that. You can send them to brainwashing camps in Idaho and they will still come back gayer than Christmas. So how can Jesus "accept all" if he can't accept gay people?

I can go on all day long with this, but that's obviously not necessary as you won't actually answer my response outside of a single blanket statement anyway.

I think you lost

Once the hypocrisy hits the boiling point its time to try something new.. like squash.

yeah, i think it's time for a new religion. i won't practice it, but i would be a little happier with the human race if they started believing in something more believable.

scientology>christianity

LOL

scientology is truth. what about scientology could be false? scientology garners its beliefs from 18 basic books. that's 17 more than what christianity has.

Do you watch southpark?

Do you watch southpark?

you know i do. what they did to poor Issac Hayes was terrible. WAR SCIENTOLOGY!

http://gossipshack.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/tomcruisescientologybiography.jpg

Funny story. my folks live in Houston and they were in dallas last weekend. They witnessed a protest against scientology and a protester asked them if they would listen for a few minutes about the evils of scientology.. my folks (who are Canadians) responded, "your constitution allows all people to worship freely in any way they choose".
The protesters were glued in their tracks.. deer in the headlights style.

Funny story. my folks live in Houston and they were in dallas last weekend. They witnessed a protest against scientology and a protester asked them if they would listen for a few minutes about the evils of scientology.. my folks (who are Canadians) responded, "your constitution allows all people to worship freely in any way they choose".
The protesters were glued in their tracks.. deer in the headlights style.

that's because people in dallas are stupid. anyone who holds a protest against religion is just giving them more reason to hold onto their faiths and become more defensive.

good story btw.

Funny story. my folks live in Houston and they were in dallas last weekend. They witnessed a protest against scientology and a protester asked them if they would listen for a few minutes about the evils of scientology.. my folks (who are Canadians) responded, "your constitution allows all people to worship freely in any way they choose".
The protesters were glued in their tracks.. deer in the headlights style.

They were probably hardcore christians

recognize the earth for what it is:

Considering our earth will cease to exist according to science, ultimately there's nothing to recognize here on earth. The sun will burn out, and our earths core will cease.

Considering our earth will cease to exist according to science, ultimately there's nothing to recognize here on earth. The sun will burn out, and our earths core will cease.

are you trying to be all philosophical-like? because you're doing a pretty poor job. how does the fact that the sun will burn out have anything to do with recognition of present facts?

yes, earth will eventually cease to exist, but that is part of life. everything that lives must eventually die, it's the circle of existence. death is easier than life, it makes more sense. you die and are no longer self-aware. why can't you christians just accept that? you people are so vain that you must create a justification for your disgusting need for immortality.

its so hard to debate christans. Any good point you make is a personal attack on them so they get all defensive and attack you not defend their beliefs. Everyone who has said something contradictory to religion on this thread has backed it up with good points, not merely "Jesus says your wrong."

Your bible forsees the end of an era too, so its not just science that says the earth is doomed. Lucky for you a magic man will come out of the sky and take you to his happy place where you will be loved forever. Sounds a little Michael Jackson for my taste.

double post sorry. Allah please forgive me.

Funny story. my folks live in Houston and they were in dallas last weekend. They witnessed a protest against scientology and a protester asked them if they would listen for a few minutes about the evils of scientology.. my folks (who are Canadians) responded, "your constitution allows all people to worship freely in any way they choose".
The protesters were glued in their tracks.. deer in the headlights style.

That was a great response.

Its too bad they didn't say "Sure I'll sign your petition and I'll sign the one banning Christianity as well please".


They'd probably get shot though.

actually alot sooner than you think. The heaven and earth will be burnt away as what is said in the Revelation, and Daniel. Then a new Heaven and a new Earth will be brought about without sin and people that have a mindset such as you.

Even so Lord come quickly!

actually alot sooner than you think. The heaven and earth will be burnt away as what is said in the Revelation, and Daniel. Then a new Heaven and a new Earth will be brought about without sin and people that have a mindset such as you.

Even so Lord come quickly!

what's the point of that? why doesn't gawd just keep it as it is?

The heaven and earth will be burnt away as what is said in the Revelation, and Daniel. Then a new Heaven and a new Earth will be brought about without sin

Why will there be a new Earth if everyone is dead and the souls of the chosen christians are in heaven?