Can he please be left out of any top heavyweight lhw or any other weight discussions from now on?

Vera overrated at any weight.

Vera sucks im tired of hearing how he's so good.

Yup he hadn't ever fought or beaten anyone of substance outside of a messed up mir. Who i also think doesn't belong in any top 10 list anymore. I dont think beating lesner should get you that.

Iono he was really good at acting like he woulda gotten out or survived that round.

With that said Werdum is drastically underrated. He won the last round against Nog and almost subbed him.

Um. Spoiler warning anyone?

I watched the PPV at a bar but still...

8 hour delay.

agree with kronker.......


yet its the spoiler section...... duh

vera got jitsed hardcore...

whats going on with the heavyweight division anyway?

since when has vera been mentioned as an elite hw??? i kno wu hate him but hes never cracked the top 10, aybe after his ko after mir he was in the discussion, but he was never the one. some ppl sai dhe will be champ, but some ppl also said lambert would be champ (:owned:) hes a good fighters, too small for HW, got a shit stoppage by that worhtless "ref", not that he was winnig or wouldve won, werdum fought great, but vera deserved to make it to the end of the round. he wasnt even hurt.

mir in shape takes the rematch. i've been saying vera doesn't deserve the praise ever since he started fighting in the octagon. he's alright. won't ever be a champ. at any weight.