Cung-Le
05-29-2008, 04:44 PM
When your in heaven, do you feel any emotions? If so do you feel depression and disapointment from the love ones your watching over; when ever they do something stupid?
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View Full Version : xcept68 Answer This Simple Question Cung-Le 05-29-2008, 04:44 PM When your in heaven, do you feel any emotions? If so do you feel depression and disapointment from the love ones your watching over; when ever they do something stupid? xcept68 05-29-2008, 05:22 PM Wonderful question. I would refer to the story of the Rich man and Lazarus. Luke 16: 19 “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, 21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. [1] The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. 24 And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house— 28 for I have five brothers [2]—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” So here we have the story. First thing is when Jesus uses a name it isn't a parable but an actual event. Lazarus eating bread crumbs from the rich mans table, during this time people used bread as napkins to wipe their hands and faces with then discard them. So in Heaven Lazarus saw the rich man but was separated by a Chasm, fixed, immovable, this chasm is to keep those separated to keep those in Abraham's bosum from going to them and to keep them from coming to His people. The rich man had memory of his life and his family. He pleaded to Lazarus for a drop of water on his tongue, meaning he had feeling he also had regret in wanting to warn his family. So yes, he could feel everything and remember everything he was as we are now, except in torment eternally. I would suggest pouring over this warning in Luke a bit more to understand it on your own better. GReat question!! ShadowoftheDarkgod 05-29-2008, 06:00 PM When you go to heaven, you'll be changed to a new being: 1 Corinthians 15:52: 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. Revelation 21:4: 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." Memories of the past will be removed as it has been said that there will be no more mourning or crying in heaven. How can you be happy when you'll remember that you were raped, tortured or murdered and if you can see your loved ones in hell? Those that will go to hell will have full recollection of their memories as a reminder why they went to hell. xcept68 05-29-2008, 06:06 PM actually that's two different things. At the final resurrection where all will be the same for eternity is much different than what happens now as Jesus spoke of in Luke about Lazarus and the rich man Cung-Le 05-30-2008, 03:37 AM can you bros help me with a proplem... My grandma passed away on halloween, and i absoluly love herrrr. When she was still with me, i wasn't the greatest grandson, but i did my best to help her out (she had a hearing problem, and troubles seeing). Now that she has gone i'm still a little bit sad (not as much as before). Once in a while i see her in my dreams and everytime i see her, i always give her a big hug, but she always looks disappointed in me. The first time i saw her in my dreams is a while ago. She sitting on the carpet, looking at the computer infront of her (which was off). I walked over there and hugged her. I looked at her and her eyes were completly white. The second time, she was in our room (i share a room with my bro and her). I gave her a hug again, and she was yelling and looked disapointed in me. I went to bed and she tucked me in while she was still yelling. (every night, when me and my bro were asleep she would always pull the blanket over us). The third time, in my dreams, I was praying (my grandma would pray every day when ever she woke up, so i am starting to take her place, but i pray before i go to bed) and i saw her standing like 3 feet away from me. I got up and once again, she looked disappointed in me, but i still gave her a hug anyways. I'm not sure if she is trying to tell me something or not. She loves to watch pro wrestling (she still believed its real even though we told her its fake) but when ever the WWE Divas would go on and start showing off their body, she would change the channel. After my first dream about her, i somehow came to a conclusion that she wants me to stop doing "Stuff" on the computer. Please bro, help me, i really don't know what to do... ShadowoftheDarkgod 05-30-2008, 04:23 AM You're just missing your grandmother. That is normal since you've been close. And I think that's your conscience telling you something not your grandmother since the dead can't tell anything nor does have any memories. Job 7:9-10 9 As a cloud vanishes and is gone, so he who goes down to the grave [a] does not return. 10 He will never come to his house again; his place will know him no more. xcept68 05-30-2008, 04:11 PM Shadow is right. You know that your Grandmother could be watching you and what you do, and now you feel a guilt about it. The fact that her eyes are white show that you are concerned about what she is seeing. You probably should stop messin with internet porn, besides it isn't good for you or your computer. YouSlayMe 05-30-2008, 05:54 PM When your in heaven, do you feel any emotions? If so do you feel depression and disapointment from the love ones your watching over; when ever they do something stupid? your thread is somewhat misleading. what you ask is not a simple question, and to ask it of another living human being? unless xcept has some type of out of body experience he's shared with everyone, he is just as clueless as we all are on this subject. on the other hand, if you just are asking his "opinion" of what you seek the answer to, then i hope you understand what i am saying. i have spoken to people who've had out of body experiences, and i believe what they've told me. i notice you ask because you think your grandmother is not pleased with you on the computer. that fact that these questions and concerns come from dreams you've had have nothing to do with your grandmother, per se, but with understanding your dreams. and, no, those i've spoken to have said they understand and are aware of the state of their being or existence (for lack of a better word) during the OOB experience but do not "feel emotions" as living beings. they are conscious of everything around them without emotion. xcept68 06-03-2008, 06:58 PM hey Why is the category of this forum, "Spirtuality" then the sub category is religion misspelled as religeon? That's funny! deegs 06-03-2008, 07:59 PM hey Why is the category of this forum, "Spirtuality" then the sub category is religion misspelled as religeon? That's funny! it's a fake spelling to match your fake patty cake club xcept68 06-03-2008, 08:52 PM So why do you feel the need to try to attack the "fake patty cake club" if you know it's fake? Does it threaten you? It must for you to feel the need to brow beat it everytime you get the chance. deegs 06-03-2008, 09:04 PM lol sing another hymn i just dislike how preachy you are. you disregard any real arguments and when you feel like it, quote some bullshit from a bullshit book to prove the claims of said bullshit book. your circular logic is played out, nigga. deegs 06-03-2008, 09:05 PM amen deegs 06-03-2008, 09:05 PM i mean, aman xcept68 06-03-2008, 09:14 PM what're you ....14? Who cares. Why bother, go hit on some chicks and get off the net... nigga. ZiLLa 06-03-2008, 10:22 PM what're you ....14? Who cares. Why bother, go hit on some chicks and get off the net... nigga. HYPOCRISY 101 Once again the devil in sheep's clothing is revealed. deegs 06-03-2008, 11:20 PM "no need for this, act like a grown up please your a mod" evil's neg rep message. im surprised he spelled so many words correctly. deegs 06-03-2008, 11:21 PM what're you ....14? Who cares. Why bother, go hit on some chicks and get off the net... nigga. jajaja shut up godboy Evil 06-03-2008, 11:25 PM "no need for this, act like a grown up please your a mod" evil's neg rep message. im surprised he spelled so many words correctly. Am I wrong? rule #9.Do not constantly troll and start shit in serious forums such as the fights forums etc. ZiLLa 06-03-2008, 11:36 PM Am I wrong? rule #9.Do not constantly troll and start shit in serious forums such as the fights forums etc. HYPOCRISY 101 Once again you "christians" show your true colors... Lord Krishna 06-03-2008, 11:40 PM how the fuck did that retard evil become a mod is beyond my understanding deegs 06-04-2008, 12:45 AM Am I wrong? rule #9.Do not constantly troll and start shit in serious forums such as the fights forums etc. you are not wrong, you're a fag. deegs 06-04-2008, 12:45 AM how the fuck did that retard evil become a mod is beyond my understanding prayer? xcept68 06-04-2008, 06:59 PM These people's comments really do not matter, nor do they contribute to any of the religion debates. Unfortunately, they tend to take away from the serious posters. I would say we merely not respond to their hatred. deegs 06-04-2008, 07:19 PM These people's comments really do not matter, nor do they contribute to any of the religion debates. Unfortunately, they tend to take away from the serious posters. I would say we merely not respond to their hatred. lol shut up. i can dig up plenty of posts from you that are just insults and contribute nothing to the discussion. you get frustrated because deep down in that mediocre head of yours, you know you're an idiot for believing. xcept68 06-04-2008, 07:34 PM well I'm glad you pointed that out. Good job! deegs 06-04-2008, 07:50 PM your secret is out xcept68 06-04-2008, 08:00 PM Good to know, thanks again! Reaper Man 06-05-2008, 06:54 AM I don't think xcept really believes. he's just a talented troll. Though I think this would get awful boring. lancaster 06-05-2008, 09:14 AM I don't think xcept really believes. he's just a talented troll. Cha ching! deegs 06-05-2008, 02:22 PM i am agree. but nothing gives me a boost of self confidence like pwning a nameless, faceless, combination of characters and images daily. xcept68 06-05-2008, 05:04 PM You have accomplished nothing, you haven't swayed one person to your viewpoint, I however have brought many over to stronger belief in Christ. you Fail. deegs 06-05-2008, 05:24 PM jesus fails deegs 06-05-2008, 05:24 PM jajaja xcept68 06-05-2008, 05:47 PM Jeremiah 7:8 deegs 06-05-2008, 05:51 PM deegs 6:21 "and thou shall fuck yo' couch" Lord Krishna 06-05-2008, 05:58 PM Lord krishna 2:28 "he whom shall trolleth shall be pwnteth by all" xcept68 06-05-2008, 06:06 PM so you having a Birthday pretty soon deegs? deegs 06-05-2008, 06:24 PM yea, im gonna be able to rent pornos soon xcept68 06-05-2008, 07:09 PM So June 21st then? Evil 06-05-2008, 08:52 PM how the fuck did that retard evil become a mod is beyond my understanding :banthem: Evil 06-05-2008, 08:53 PM you are not wrong, you're a fag. Thank you. xcept68 06-05-2008, 10:10 PM I think there are several that should be banned. Evil 06-05-2008, 10:57 PM I'm not going to ban those who provide me with endless amusement. xcept68 06-05-2008, 11:28 PM very true! lol that they do. lancaster 06-06-2008, 03:21 AM You have accomplished nothing, you haven't swayed one person to your viewpoint, I however have brought many over to stronger belief in Christ. :pics: xcept68 06-06-2008, 05:47 AM "Nine-tenths of the talk of evolutionists is sheer nonsense, not founded on observation and wholly unsupported by facts. This museum is full of proofs of the utter falsity of their views. In all this great museum, there is not a particle of evidence of the transmutation of species." Dr. Etheridge, World famous palaeontologist of the British Museum lancaster 06-06-2008, 08:34 AM Would you ask a plumber why your car is making a funny noise? If you're going to put up quotes about evolution by someone who's not a biologist then your quotes are just unsubstantiated opinion. xcept68 06-06-2008, 03:54 PM Would you ask a plumber why your car is making a funny noise? If you're going to put up quotes about evolution by someone who's not a biologist then your quotes are just unsubstantiated opinion. You're not a biologist, and you talk about evolution all the time... can I quote you? lancaster 06-07-2008, 01:13 AM Ha ha, fucking pwned! Nice one. xcept68 06-07-2008, 05:12 AM Ha ha, fucking pwned! Nice one. QFT vBulletin® v3.7.4, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. |