Discuss death here.

I don't fear it... Just being old.

It's coming, everyday we get closer.

I think too often we take it for granted and should concentrate more on making the most of it because before you know it it'll be over.I don't want to die regretting anything.If you want to do something,do it.Make the most of life cuz you're in control.
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unavoidable. your existence is insignificant anyway. you're just an organism on a tiny speck next to a million other tiny specks.

unavoidable. your existence is insignificant anyway. you're just an organism on a tiny speck next to a million other tiny specks.

:buba: that too.

it is inevitable. i pity the folks who fear it, but that is all.

like GOD, i want to live with no regrets. like deegs, i believe we are all tiny specks next to more likely untold numbers of other specks, but not insignificant at all. if anything, we are all pieces of a massive puzzle and once the pieces all fall into place, the puzzle will be complete. what the puzzle is, i do not know and don't believe any person does.

i don't really care.

it's very well said in the Goonies movie "this is our time"...

i just hang on and enjoy the ride!

:sifone:

What I have learned is that you should live your life to the fullest on your terms and be gracious for the things you have rather than crib for what you don't. And I'm not concerned with my own death. Its the people you love you're concerned about. But I wonder if loving means holding onto someone. Its much more positive and a liberating emotion. Can you love a person without being attached to him/her? Do you think love brings pain? I dont. If its a deal which is bound to hurt in the end, then I'd rather stay away from it. Or is it that you should enjoy your humanness and live fully all the joys and sorrows you come across with life.

I think acceptance of death is very important. And maybe(I hope so- At least I find solace in this belief) Death is not the end. Maybe a person would leave us and we'll miss him all our life. Whether we hold onto or let it go depends on us.

Insignificant we might be. But we're not inconsequential. We' are more than statistics. We are more than a newspaper obituary. Its not more of a fear. Its more of the lack of acceptance. Its the feeling that the person's existence has been wiped out. And if you believe in god, you have to believe that the forgiving god will give you many shots to get it right.

Pray for my elder brother who passed away few days back.

I've learnt a lot from him and he is missed. He was a good guy. He was my brother.

Insignificant we might be. But we're not inconsequential. We' are more than statistics. We are more than a newspaper obituary. Its not more of a fear. Its more of the lack of acceptance. Its the feeling that the person's existence has been wiped out. And if you believe in god, you have to believe that the forgiving god will give you many shots to get it right.

Pray for my elder brother who passed away few days back.

I've learnt a lot from him and he is missed. He was a good guy. He was my brother.

Sorry to hear that Aman.

What I have learned is that you should live your life to the fullest on your terms and be gracious for the things you have rather than crib for what you don't. And I'm not concerned with my own death. Its the people you love you're concerned about. But I wonder if loving means holding onto someone. Its much more positive and a liberating emotion. Can you love a person without being attached to him/her? Do you think love brings pain? I dont. If its a deal which is bound to hurt in the end, then I'd rather stay away from it. Or is it that you should enjoy your humanness and live fully all the joys and sorrows you come across with life.

I think acceptance of death is very important. And maybe(I hope so- At least I find solace in this belief) Death is not the end. Maybe a person would leave us and we'll miss him all our life. Whether we hold onto or let it go depends on us.

if we could all pick and choose whether we suffer or not, it'd be a no-brainer.

we must take the bad with the good...

control your destiny, but your fate is sealed.

Sorry to hear that Aman.
Do pray for him bro. He was a very very good guy.

I'll understand that by fate you mean the situations you're put into and by destiny you mean how you act according to the situation.

sorry about your brother, aman.

Insignificant we might be. But we're not inconsequential. We' are more than statistics. We are more than a newspaper obituary. Its not more of a fear. Its more of the lack of acceptance. Its the feeling that the person's existence has been wiped out. And if you believe in god, you have to believe that the forgiving god will give you many shots to get it right.

Pray for my elder brother who passed away few days back.

I've learnt a lot from him and he is missed. He was a good guy. He was my brother.

Aman, I am very sorry about your brother. I am not a praying person, but I will send you love and positive energy.

I also lost my oldest sis in March, just two months ago. it hurts...a LOT, but she is still with me. You miss your brother, but that love has gone nowhere. it remains. Remember the good times as he would want you to do.

Peace, Aman.

We start dying the day we are born.

We start dying the day we are born.
Truth.

If I'm wrong about death it's no big deal. If your wrong it could be a problem.

If I'm wrong about death it's no big deal. If your wrong it could be a problem.

If you're right and there is a God. Will he be pissed at us for not using the brain he gave us?

If you're right and there is a God. Will he be pissed at us for not using the brain he gave us?


just having these questions is overusing what he gave us. free will or god's will?

i don't fear it cause real gangsta ass niggaz don't die





*lives forever*

just having these questions is overusing what he gave us. free will or god's will?

How can we overuse our brain? God obviously gave us this brain for a reason. He doesn't act capriciously. So God's will is obviously to use our brain to its full potential. Which mean we have to question him and not just turn our brain off and follow blindly.

we can easily overuse our brain. this world would not be on the verge of destruction if we thought like cows or geese. i guess sometimes i just question what the fuck it's for when it seems that the only reason we are different from animals is our abilities to manipulate, hate, control, have greed, feel sad, question existence, doublethink, self doubt, etc.

lol i just took a nap and sobered up

my sincerest condolences to you & your family, aman...

we can easily overuse our brain. this world would not be on the verge of destruction if we thought like cows or geese. i guess sometimes i just question what the fuck it's for when it seems that the only reason we are different from animals is our abilities to manipulate, hate, control, have greed, feel sad, question existence, doublethink, self doubt, etc.

the more you eat, the hungrier you become...until you are nothing but a glutton.

simple thoughts for simple pleasures? if it were only that simple, baby. when you find the perfect spot for such a "paradise", would you please let me know, cuz we got so much hating going on in this world right now, it's very hard to find a peaceful place to exist!

:)

we can easily overuse our brain. this world would not be on the verge of destruction if we thought like cows or geese. i guess sometimes i just question what the fuck it's for when it seems that the only reason we are different from animals is our abilities to manipulate, hate, control, have greed, feel sad, question existence, doublethink, self doubt, etc.

agreed.

Dont think, feeeeeel

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If I'm wrong about death it's no big deal. If your wrong it could be a problem.

no matter what religion you choose theres thousands of others you deny, if muslims are right you may be in the same predicament you say others are

no matter what religion you choose theres thousands of others you deny, if muslims are right you may be in the same predicament you say others are

Just for my own curiosity, what would happen to me according to the Muslem religion?

according the the Muslim religion, you wouldn't attain the 70 virgins like they would.

That sucks... so what happens to me nothing?

according the the Muslim religion, you wouldn't attain the 70 virgins like they would.

Thats not a part of the Muslim religion you bible thumping hypocrite.

Thats not a part of the Muslim religion you bible thumping hypocrite.

Al-queada

what does Al-Qaeda, the terrorist group, have to do with religion?

they use their religion to manipulate the masses. governments have done the same with christianity and still do. it's pretty evident by the way you two are brainwashed into thinking it's muslims vs. christians when really it's about your country stealing their shit.

money is the driving factor. religion is used to control the masses and get them to support the cause.

what does Al-Qaeda, the terrorist group, have to do with religion?

they use their religion to manipulate the masses. governments have done the same with christianity and still do. it's pretty evident by the way you two are brainwashed into thinking it's muslims vs. christians when really it's about your country stealing their shit.

money is the driving factor. religion is used to control the masses and get them to support the cause.

I understand this war very well my friend. Its freedom vs. totalitarianism and the USA are the good guys. I'm not for a Christian run state like Rome, my countries founding fathers had it right when they made it illegal for the state to adopt a religion.

I don't understand how Christianity has brainwashed me can you please explain better. What Christian value should I not be following?

Its freedom vs. totalitarianism and the USA are the good guys.

So [in Iraq] is the USA on the side of freedom or totalitarianism? It might be obvious to you, but it sure as hell isn't obvious to the rest of the world.

I understand this war very well my friend. Its freedom vs. totalitarianism and the USA are the good guys. I'm not for a Christian run state like Rome, my countries founding fathers had it right when they made it illegal for the state to adopt a religion.

I don't understand how Christianity has brainwashed me can you please explain better. What Christian value should I not be following?

well, christianity (all religion) is a tool for control. remember how easily gruesome acts have been justified by religion and been embraced the pious public.

the simple fact of you thinking that america are the good guys is proof enough of brainwashing.

Al-queada
Yeah and you used to say that Bruce was a troll(*sighs*). I'm quite fed up with this Anti Islam BS. My God vs Their God Crap. Does your god allows you to be sarcastic and treat individuals like sheep?

Does your outlook reflect the outlook of majority of population of America? If it is, then it says a lot for the tolerant, liberal western world.

P.S. I know it isnt.

P.S.S. If you notice closely, you'll see pride creeping up your "christian" personality.

Rob and a lot of other guys here are christians. A lot of guys believe in god. And when people portray their god being greater than somebody else's god.. that just turns off people from trying to understand religion.

P.S.S.S. Maybe I'm just angry right now but I just cant hear this crap man. Where's the forgiveness?

Sorry if I offended anyone. Or maybe I'm not.

well, christianity (all religion) is a tool for control. remember how easily gruesome acts have been justified by religion and been embraced the pious public.

the simple fact of you thinking that america are the good guys is proof enough of brainwashing.
Yeah man. Religion has been misused time and again for justifying the wrong actions. But here's a thing I have.

Even if majority believes the verdict of self styled caretakers of religion(not founders like Mohammad and Jesus), and it is wrong in doing it.... That doesn't makes the concept and principles of religion wrong. Hence Al Qaeda might be wrong or claim to be fighting against wrongs committed... That doesn't makes Islam bad. Al Qaeda follows their interpretation of religion... Which is what it is... An interpretation.

A lot of Muslims and Arabs have been scientists and philosophers. Ever heard about Sufis? Google out Rumi. To know about them.

How could you rue death of your people and justify the killings of them infidels under the context of saving them. Muslims have become the new unbelievers, the infidels, the untouchables of the new paranoid world.

The way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death - miyamoto mushashi

I read somewhere that buddha used to send his disciples to spend time in the cemetery to understand death.

One of my muslim friends told me that in islam a person is supposed to remember death everyday.

Good to see us come back on the topic.

WOW, you are all lost in a sea called the liberal media. Sorry to break it to you but I'm not the one who's brainwashed.

So [in Iraq] is the USA on the side of freedom or totalitarianism? It might be obvious to you, but it sure as hell isn't obvious to the rest of the world.


totalitarianism- a concept used to describe political systems where a state regulates nearly every aspect of public and private life. The term is usually applied to Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany or hard-line communist regimes, such as Stalinist Russia, Democratic Kampuchea or North Korea. Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, central state-controlled economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror tactics.

well, christianity (all religion) is a tool for control. remember how easily gruesome acts have been justified by religion and been embraced the pious public.

the simple fact of you thinking that america are the good guys is proof enough of brainwashing.


By controll I assume you mean Christianity leads my down a path free of sin. What is wrong with this?

Gruesome acts in the name of any religion are terrible, but they should not reflect on any religion as a whole. I understand that muslim fundamentalists like al qaeda do not represent the religion as a whole. Do you understand that crusaders and abortion clinic bonbers don't represent me?

America are the good guys, prove me wrong.

Yeah and you used to say that Bruce was a troll(*sighs*). I'm quite fed up with this Anti Islam BS. My God vs Their God Crap. Does your god allows you to be sarcastic and treat individuals like sheep?


You clearly don't understand. I think there are many noble Muslims like the ones that are being trained by our military right now in Iraq to fight back against the ruthless cult called the Mahdi army. The Muslim religion could be a perfectly valid path to Gods grace its not my place to judge them.

P.S. Don't worry Im not going to hold your ignorance against you.

Yep, Evil's not brainwashed at all...

jajaja

WOW, you are all lost in a sea called the liberal media. Sorry to break it to you but I'm not the one who's brainwashed.


you are lost in the swamp called foxnews

By controll I assume you mean Christianity leads my down a path free of sin. What is wrong with this?

Gruesome acts in the name of any religion are terrible, but they should not reflect on any religion as a whole. I understand that muslim fundamentalists like al qaeda do not represent the religion as a whole. Do you understand that crusaders and abortion clinic bonbers don't represent me?

America are the good guys, prove me wrong.


i know you've sinned plenty. so what the fuck are you talking about?


America are the good guys, prove me wrong.


i think it's safe to say you've never been outside of america.

You clearly don't understand. I think there are many noble Muslims like the ones that are being trained by our military right now in Iraq to fight back against the ruthless cult called the Mahdi army. The Muslim religion could be a perfectly valid path to Gods grace its not my place to judge them.

P.S. Don't worry Im not going to hold your ignorance against you.

Here's a hypothetical scenario. Iraq is a superpower and it attacks US under the garb of liberating its people. And it ends up doing a really shoddy job and ends up alienating the people which it proposed to save. What would you have done if you were in their place? I for one think that I might've become jehadi to liberate my country from so-called liberators. How could you justify the killings in Iraq?

Iraq was attacked in the name of saving the people from tyranny and what they got back in return is death and a vacuum in which criminals have a free hand without any governing structure. And americans secure their oil supplies.

And yeah, the noble muslims are the ones who understand our cause and support us. Rest of them are just ignorant new age infidels. You're with us or against us.

P.S. In post#34 you say you don't understand how Christianity has brainwashed me can you please explain better. What Christian value should I not be following?

Its not christianity that has brainwashed you. Its the god-endorsed commercial powers which want to keep holding the power and oil by numbing people's senses. Marketing ftw!

In post#32 the blurring difference between an organization and a religion(a way of life, a philosophy) in your mind is apparent. And in this particular post, you're backtracking under pressure put on you by logical retort to sound politically correct. I doubt if you really believe it. But you can believe whatever you want to. :gives:

yeah sounds great

i think it's safe to say you've never been outside of america.

:wrong:

Here's a hypothetical scenario. Iraq is a superpower and it attacks US under the garb of liberating its people. And it ends up doing a really shoddy job and ends up alienating the people which it proposed to save. What would you have done if you were in their place? I for one think that I might've become jehadi to liberate my country from so-called liberators. How could you justify the killings in Iraq?

America doesn't target innocent people.

Iraq was attacked in the name of saving the people from tyranny and what they got back in return is death and a vacuum in which criminals have a free hand without any governing structure. And americans secure their oil supplies.

The Iraqi people are far better off without the tyrannical dictator Saddam Hussein. BTW where is all this oil? We could really use it right about now.


And yeah, the noble muslims are the ones who understand our cause and support us. Rest of them are just ignorant new age infidels. You're with us or against us.

Muslim fundamentalists must be stopped from spreading their cult of death. Do you disagree?

P.S. In post#34 you say you don't understand how Christianity has brainwashed me can you please explain better. What Christian value should I not be following?

Its not christianity that has brainwashed you. Its the god-endorsed commercial powers which want to keep holding the power and oil by numbing people's senses. Marketing ftw!

You sure your not brainwashed?

In post#32 the blurring difference between an organization and a religion(a way of life, a philosophy) in your mind is apparent. And in this particular post, you're backtracking under pressure put on you by logical retort to sound politically correct. I doubt if you really believe it. But you can believe whatever you want to. :gives:

Al-qeada is a religion, I really fucked up evil religion but a religion none the less.

Al-Qued just means "the Base" The whole thing stinks of conspiracy. I say Bin Laden has been dead of kidney failure for 5 years, and Zarqawi was killed by a Helicopter missile 2 months before the Nick Burg case, and the media reports only what the Gov wants them to. (For obvious reasons).

And The government forknew about it and when they reprinted the US money, they hid a message of bombing the WTC towers in the new currency.

http://www.diamond-jim.com/911folds/

HA HA HA .

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

:weirdo:

Actually I said that wrong. Alqeada isn't a religion it is a groupe of people, but they base all their philosophy on a perversion of islam. Same difference. Its like Morman is to Christianity as Alqueada is to Muslimism.

America doesn't target innocent people.

its just unlucky if they get in the way.... how the fuck do you know who or what they target?

The Iraqi people are far better off without the tyrannical dictator Saddam Hussein. BTW where is all this oil? We could really use it right about now.

because now they live in a country whose infrastructure has been destroyed and there is no stability? the us was a supporter of saddam even when he was gassing the kurds. iraq never had anything to do with al-quaeda neither did it ever posess any of the wmd's it was claimed and they knew it as they sold them all the weaponry they had, in addition they have any plans of attacking america.

Muslim fundamentalists must be stopped from spreading their cult of death. Do you disagree?

you dumb fuck - its quite simple hate breeds hate. when people feel threatened they react with hostility. you take your gung ho fucking country and start invading other countries for very dubious reasons and people are gonna get concerned. this manifests its self in displays of anger towards the aggressor. then you redneck fucks think its all unjustified as your there to save them by searching their houses and cars... maybe shooting a few... but its all for their own good.


You sure your not brainwashed?

yes. if you dont believe that america is there for the ecconomical reasons of the political elite, the same can not be said for you.

Al-qeada is a religion, I really fucked up evil religion but a religion none the less.


no. it is an organisation that opposes the ideology of the us. it may utilise religion in its recruiting and warp it to justify violence against others but the us does that too.

its just unlucky if they get in the way.... how the fuck do you know who or what they target?

How many family members do you have in the military? Trust me bro I know.



because now they live in a country whose infrastructure has been destroyed and there is no stability?

Things tend to get blown up in a war but there is a plan in action to rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq. I'm not suprised you still think there is no stability by the way our media covers this war. I assure you that we have made great strides in stabilizing hot spots like anbar province and other major outbreakes in violence. But don't take my word for it.

http://www.sigir.mil/reports/quarterlyreports/Apr08/pdf/Graph_-_April_2008.pdf

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/Master%20%20Mar08%20-%20final%20signed.pdf

the us was a supporter of saddam even when he was gassing the kurds. iraq never had anything to do with al-quaeda neither did it ever posess any of the wmd's it was claimed and they knew it as they sold them all the weaponry they had, in addition they have any plans of attacking america.

Once again you are buying into liberal talking points and I'm now going to waste my time and explain why you are wrong. Yes the US did back Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war. In hindsight it was a mistake but sometimes our government has to back the lesser of two evils. Right now our government is in bed with Saudi Arabia, a likely mistake.

You have contradicted yourself quite clearly. "he was gassing the kurds"-BTJ "did it ever posess any of the wmd"-BTJ Do you not understand what WMDs are?

Really this is all pointless because regardless of weather or not Iraq had WMDs or ties to Alqeada the fact is everyone thought hat they did. Do you need me to start pulling out quotes from befor 9/11 of liberal democrates and multiple foreign leaders saying they do?




you dumb fuck - its quite simple hate breeds hate. when people feel threatened they react with hostility. you take your gung ho fucking country and start invading other countries for very dubious reasons and people are gonna get concerned. this manifests its self in displays of anger towards the aggressor. then you redneck fucks think its all unjustified as your there to save them by searching their houses and cars... maybe shooting a few... but its all for their own good.


You are very angry, emotion blinds your common sense.

yes. if you dont believe that america is there for the ecconomical reasons of the political elite, the same can not be said for you.


Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?



no. it is an organisation that opposes the ideology of the us. it may utilise religion in its recruiting and warp it to justify violence against others but the us does that too.



The United States have never adopted any state religion except for maby atheism. What is your justification for these statements?

America doesn't target innocent people.

The Iraqi people are far better off without the tyrannical dictator Saddam Hussein. BTW where is all this oil? We could really use it right about now.

Muslim fundamentalists must be stopped from spreading their cult of death. Do you disagree?

You sure your not brainwashed?

Al-qeada is a religion, I really fucked up evil religion but a religion none the less.

As BTJ pointed out, America targets innnocent people and then label half of them as terrorists and half of them as the ones that got killed in cross fire. How would you react if you were in their place?

Look at the pretext on which Iraq was attacked an maybe you'll realize what a farce it was. WMDs were destroyed a long time ago. Iraq was a a secular country which most probably wont be able to retain that aspect of their country. Though women were abused by the dictators, they enjoyed more freedom than anywhere in the Arab World.

Muslim Fundamentalists must be stopped. Its Americans who should be given a free hand dealing pre-emptively with their potential enemies and alienating friends and making a lot more anarchy and enemity in return. Who's next? North Korea? Iran? What?

How many family members do you have in the military? Trust me bro I know.

How many do you have? Incidentally, US Military is quite sick of waging a war it has no business fighting. Atlast that's what I'm led to believe by the "Liberal" Media trying to brainwash me.

Al-Qaeda is a religion? *Shakes Head in Shock and Awe*

NFL, NBA, UFC. All of these are religions too. Just that the pretext on which thay are based isnt religion. I'm probably bullshitting right now. Maybe that's coz Stupidity is contagious.


You have contradicted yourself quite clearly. "he was gassing the kurds"-BTJ "did it ever posess any of the wmd"-BTJ Do you not understand what WMDs are?

Well they were destroyed a long time back.

You are very angry, emotion blinds your common sense.
Good way to dodge a completely reasonable argument.

The United States have never adopted any state religion except for maby atheism. What is your justification for these statements?

You clearly dont get it. Do you?

Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein?
Reply in context. Stop spewing gibberish. What were the reasons for the war? Fuck that! Oil is what they were after. Or probably Bush had revenge on his mind. I have no motivation to go on. This argument seems so pointless.

First tell me How Islam is Evil? How did you arrive onto Al qaeda = Islam?

But don't take my word for it.

I used to live next door to refugees from Iraq. I asked their opinion on the whole US/Iraq thing and their opinion was that the US should get the hell out of their country so they could go home.

So no, I don't trust your opinion, you who have never been to Iraq. I trust the opinions of those who used to live there.