wtf is up with the sound. the screaming lady sounds like shes on some am station on the radio.

whooo! it just cleared up!

phhh the bye got the biggest ovation.

WAR DIAZ AND SKULL BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

rofl. bas with "strategical".

whos the other announcer?

Ok I didn't even need to start the thread

Kenny Rice

bullshit

shoji pwned that fight

Close fight, I would've went with Shoji though.

But Yamasaki almost finished him at the end of the first and held him down more I can't say it was a robbery. That was a damn close armbar at the end of the first

Close fight, I would've went with Shoji though.

More takedowns and sub attempts. It was close.

under japanese (pride) rules, yamasaki def won.

YEEEAAA my prediction was strikes from mount at 9:00 into the first.

That first knee fucked him up.

Poor poor Kim, I'm already feeling bad for him.

mayhem put a savage beating on the poor fucker

got to love Bas though, great to have him back

what is this streaming on?

Wow, Melvin disapointed.

Wow, Melvin disapointed.

Considering he fought 2 weeks ago and admitted he didn't train very well.

But he got caught by a good punch.

Considering he fought 2 weeks ago and admitted he didn't train very well.

But he got caught by a good punch.

Yeah that's true, I just don't like seeing an elite kickboxer get caught by a so-so judoka. It was probably a fluke though.

OMG War Jung! War Jung hardcore!!! Jung by Jungbar r.1!

Yeah that's true, I just don't like seeing an elite kickboxer get caught by a so-so judoka. It was probably a fluke though.

Maybe he might be the next Houston.

whats up with the 155 vs 185? is that a typo?

whats up with the 155 vs 185? is that a typo?

Welcome to Pride/Dream fights.

on the other hand, Daisuke does have some pretty sweet tunes. and Pancrase shins!

Goddamn why is Nakamura so much bigger? Jung is so fast though, the hip throw to back to armbar was amazing.

Does Jung train anything other than armbars and upkicks?

Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what is the url to stream in winamp?

Does Jung train anything other than armbars and upkicks?

He had good throws, but he doesn't hold his positions... perhaps he should fight a 155lber next time.

He had good throws, but he doesn't hold his positions... perhaps he should fight a 155lber next time.

That fight was at 154. Unless the Dream site is lying.

But yeah, his throws mean shit if he only uses it as another method to set up an armbar he's more than likely not gonna get.

whats up with the 155 vs 185? is that a typo?

Is this the weigh-in for Jung and Nakamura? I didn't read the weights.

The Japs love the metal! RATM for the jappo and Def Tones for Diaz motherfuckerrrr

I really hope my power doesn't go out during these fights from the thunderstorm. I'll be mad at the world like Nick Diaz

If Diaz could punch this fight would be over already

Is this the weigh-in for Jung and Nakamura? I didn't read the weights.

I didn't read the on screen weights either, but it's listed as being at 70kg

stockton... ok?


*pause*

stockton, california.

DREAM girlz :::: Beeee tooogeettthhherrr Girl!::::

Buscape vs Kawajiri up next :)

I didn't read the on screen weights either, but it's listed as being at 70kg

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt till I find out, but you gotta admit that Nakamura looked like he was 185 compared to Jung. He is usually 185 as well. Jung could make 145 though. He probably should.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt till I find out, but you gotta admit that Nakamura looked like he was 185 compared to Jung. He is usually 185 as well. Jung could make 145 though. He probably should.

Nakamura's last few fights have been at 154/5. I'm pretty possitive he's not normally 185 either. He's fought guys are that weight, but he's typically lw or ww.

war Hellboy!

Nakamura's last few fights have been at 154/5. I'm pretty possitive he's not normally 185 either. He's fought guys are that weight, but he's typically lw or ww.

Huh it seems you are correct. They just commented on how the board read Hansen as 185 as well. Anyhow War Jung! Drastically outsized and outexperienced, but hella fast and slick. He will make a Dong-esque comeback at 145 hopefully. I need a 145lber to hop on.

HOLY SHIT HANSEN ALVEREZ THAT WAS AMAZING!!!

I LOVE TALKING TO MYSELF!!!

It was pretty awesome. War Eddie. I guess now I get my wish of Hansen not being in the MMAWeekly rankings.... where he didn't belong in the first place.

Wow is uno the first guy to sub Ishida?

Wow is uno the first guy to sub Ishida?

I'm speechless. That was the only fight where I was 100% sure on the winner and I was wrong. I reckoned that no one can sub Ishida, Uno surely can't outwrestle him, and he's not nearly good enough at striking to stop him. I was wrong on all accounts.

It was pretty awesome. War Eddie. I guess now I get my wish of Hansen not being in the MMAWeekly rankings.... where he didn't belong in the first place.

Yep but now you got Alverez in it. War both fighters!

Apparantly Kawajiri and Uno were staring each other down when the broadcast stopped. We can pretty much book that one in for the next round.

It was pretty awesome. War Eddie. I guess now I get my wish of Hansen not being in the MMAWeekly rankings.... where he didn't belong in the first place.

That fight should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie didn't win, the fight was 1 round to 1 round. Hansen deff belongs in the top 10 if not for some horrible luck in his last fights. Since his loss to sakurai the only other real loss hes suffered was to aoki. He lost on a bs DQ to Kawajiri who just wanted an easy win 8 seconds into the fight and he lost a BS decision to Eiji Mitsuoka. And now while hansen didnt beat alvarez it deff was a draw that should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie clearly won round 1 while hansen clearly won round 2.

That fight should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie didn't win, the fight was 1 round to 1 round. Hansen deff belongs in the top 10 if not for some horrible luck in his last fights. Since his loss to sakurai the only other real loss hes suffered was to aoki. He lost on a bs DQ to Kawajiri who just wanted an easy win 8 seconds into the fight and he lost a BS decision to Eiji Mitsuoka. And now while hansen didnt beat alvarez it deff was a draw that should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie clearly won round 1 while hansen clearly won round 2.

They don't judge by rounds, but by the whole fight itself.

I could of sworn when dream started they said it was going to be judged on the 10 point system and not the way pride was, but you could be right.

Yep but now you got Alverez in it. War both fighters!

I'm a huge Eddie Alvarez fan. I picked him to win that fight, but no, not yet you don't. He's still a 2-0 fighter at the weight class. Beating an unranked fighter in a great fight isn't enough to rank him. Not in the deepest weight class in the sport.

That fight should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie didn't win, the fight was 1 round to 1 round. Hansen deff belongs in the top 10 if not for some horrible luck in his last fights. Since his loss to sakurai the only other real loss hes suffered was to aoki. He lost on a bs DQ to Kawajiri who just wanted an easy win 8 seconds into the fight and he lost a BS decision to Eiji Mitsuoka. And now while hansen didnt beat alvarez it deff was a draw that should of gone to a 3rd round. Eddie clearly won round 1 while hansen clearly won round 2.

That's beyond nuthugging my friend lol. The top 10 isn't for dudes who are exciting, or guys who belong ther if not for some luck. It is 100% based on accomplishments. He's just not there. The division is waaaay too deep. I give him props though, he fought a great fight. I'm not hating on him for that, or even for being an exciting fighter, which he is. He's just not one of the 10 most rank-worthy fighters in the deepest division in the sport. He wasn't before, and he (obviously) isn't now.

And yes, as mentioned before, it isn't the 10 point must system. You 100% cannot use that system with an uneven round structure. Eddie more than deserved that win.

I'm a huge Eddie Alvarez fan. I picked him to win that fight, but no, not yet you don't. He's still a 2-0 fighter at the weight class. Beating an unranked fighter in a great fight isn't enough to rank him. Not in the deepest weight class in the sport.

Well BJ and Sherk are also 2-0 so it doesn't really work like that.

Well BJ and Sherk are also 2-0 so it doesn't really work like that.

BJ is more than 2-0 in his weight class.

That's beyond nuthugging my friend lol. The top 10 isn't for dudes who are exciting, or guys who belong ther if not for some luck. It is 100% based on accomplishments. He's just not there. The division is waaaay too deep. I give him props though, he fought a great fight. I'm not hating on him for that, or even for being an exciting fighter, which he is. He's just not one of the 10 most rank-worthy fighters in the deepest division in the sport. He wasn't before, and he (obviously) isn't now.

And yes, as mentioned before, it isn't the 10 point must system. You 100% cannot use that system with an uneven round structure. Eddie more than deserved that win.

The top 10 list can be one of 2 things, one based on record of recent events or one based on skill. I refuse to have my top 10 of any division based solely on recent events not taking into account skill or luck involved in recent fights. That is why i would never have someone like jardine ranked higher then arona or lil nog. They both have been koed by soku recently and have been very inactive but their skill set is way higher and would both prob beat jardine. Anyway thats the way i consider what top 10 is.

great card great event, my dark horse edddie is taking this thing!!!!!!!! and UNO looked amazing tonight, that was a great job done

I could of sworn when dream started they said it was going to be judged on the 10 point system and not the way pride was, but you could be right.

No - Bas even said during the fights about 10 times they judge the whole fight. Which I still think could have went either way as Hansen had him close to being subbed

Well BJ and Sherk are also 2-0 so it doesn't really work like that.

BJ and Sherk have been ranked at higher weight classes in the past. That does hold some weight. Eddie hasn't ever been close to being ranked. These two wins aren't enough.

BJ and Sherk have been ranked at higher weight classes in the past. That does hold some weight. Eddie hasn't ever been close to being ranked. These two wins aren't enough.

But now he has a chance to prove he should be ranked. It is hard for a guy with a great record like his to be ranked because the competition he's fought didn't really have a name to them. But now that there is some top quality fighter's in the tourney, he has a great chance.

The top 10 list can be one of 2 things, one based on record of recent events or one based on skill. I refuse to have my top 10 of any division based solely on recent events not taking into account skill or luck involved in recent fights. That is why i would never have someone like jardine ranked higher then arona or lil nog. They both have been koed by soku recently and have been very inactive but their skill set is way higher and would both prob beat jardine. Anyway thats the way i consider what top 10 is.

Every legitamate top 10 list is all about accomplishments. The fact that you suggest otherwise, makes me wonder why I've ever debated you on this subject. I'm arguing about actual rankings, and you're arguing about who you think are better fighters.

The purpose of a top 10 list is to rank the currect top 10 guys at a weight class based on what they've accomplished. It's meant to be a snapshot in time to show how successful guys are at a certain time period, in a certain weight class. If I look at a top 10 list 10 months down the line, and it's the same, because the person making it is just ranking who they think is the most talented guys, it's a waste of the 10 seconds I'd spend looking at it, because it'd be complete shit and wouldn't tell me anything.

YOu mentioned luck too... How do you decide what is lucky and what isn't? Other than everyone who beats Hansen of course. You just can't do it. It's far too subjective. This is a sport and there is a winner, and a loser. It just doesn't make any sense to look at it any other way.

So I guess if I'm talking rankings, and you disagree with me, you can probably just save it, with the basic knowledge that we're obviously not talking about the same thing.

But now he has a chance to prove he should be ranked. It is hard for a guy with a great record like his to be ranked because the competition he's fought didn't really have a name to them. But now that there is some top quality fighter's in the tourney, he has a great chance.

Oh, trust me, I'm not saying he's nowhere close. He is. I just don't think he's top 10 yet, as was previously suggested.

Oh, trust me, I'm not saying he's nowhere close. He is. I just don't think he's top 10 yet, as was previously suggested.
Not yet, but if he takes this tourney, I have him in top 10 atleast.

Undoubtably.

If he beats anybody else in the tournament hes in the top 10 - that would put him in the finals after defeating Dida, Hansen and more than likely Aoki. He should be comfortable seated in teh top 10

top 5 if he beats dida, hellboy, and aoki at some point. i think dream wants aoki and kawajiri in the finals and i think they would figure aoki has the best chance at beating eddie so i would guess aoki/eddie and kawa/uno

so if he beats aoki, kawajiri, hansen, and dida, not only should he be considered top 5 one can make the case for him being top 3

Every legitamate top 10 list is all about accomplishments. The fact that you suggest otherwise, makes me wonder why I've ever debated you on this subject. I'm arguing about actual rankings, and you're arguing about who you think are better fighters.

The purpose of a top 10 list is to rank the currect top 10 guys at a weight class based on what they've accomplished. It's meant to be a snapshot in time to show how successful guys are at a certain time period, in a certain weight class. If I look at a top 10 list 10 months down the line, and it's the same, because the person making it is just ranking who they think is the most talented guys, it's a waste of the 10 seconds I'd spend looking at it, because it'd be complete shit and wouldn't tell me anything.

YOu mentioned luck too... How do you decide what is lucky and what isn't? Other than everyone who beats Hansen of course. You just can't do it. It's far too subjective. This is a sport and there is a winner, and a loser. It just doesn't make any sense to look at it any other way.

So I guess if I'm talking rankings, and you disagree with me, you can probably just save it, with the basic knowledge that we're obviously not talking about the same thing.

Alright ill give you your credit. Hansen doesnt deserve to be a top 10 ranked fighter, but imo he is still one of the top 10 best lws skill wise.

Hansen is top 4 FW's