In the wake of Kermit Cintron's one-sided loss of the welterweight title to Antonio Margarito via sixth-round knockout on April 12, promoter Main Events has released Cintron (29-2, 27 KOs) from his contract, Cintron attorney John Hornewer told ESPN.com. Margarito also knocked Cintron out in the fifth round in their first meeting in 2005.









Really... Where else is there for him to go now? He pretty much won't be considered for the top 3 spots in his weight anymore. I think MMA has his name ALL OVER IT.

how much was he making per fight on that contract b/c I dont see him switching unless its financially beneficial

and is any org willing to pay what it'll take to get a guy who's been ko'd like that by margarito twice

It really sucks how they dropped him. I think he's a good fighter with a lot of potential. I mean he's only ever lost to Margarito, theres no shame in losing to Margarito he's just a suicide matchup for Cintron. He really needs to get out of the welterweight division, its too strong right now. A move up or down would REALLY kickstart his career imo.


But to answer the thread, I'd LOVE to see it because Cintron punching something with MMA gloves would be the most epic thing ever. But I doubt it will happen, I dont see anyone offering him as much as he would make in a boxing match.

I think he might do well in MMA. He has better wrestling and striking credentials than Gomi, a LW champion, and about the same level of skills fighting off his back. I'd like to see him go at it with Nick Diaz.

LMAO he would KILL DIAZ LMAOOOOOO I would love that

It really sucks how they dropped him. I think he's a good fighter with a lot of potential. I mean he's only ever lost to Margarito, theres no shame in losing to Margarito he's just a suicide matchup for Cintron. He really needs to get out of the welterweight division, its too strong right now. A move up or down would REALLY kickstart his career imo.


But to answer the thread, I'd LOVE to see it because Cintron punching something with MMA gloves would be the most epic thing ever. But I doubt it will happen, I dont see anyone offering him as much as he would make in a boxing match.

Cintron would kill dudes with MMA gloves on.

Cintron would kill dudes with MMA gloves on.

LOL, imagine cintron's fist connecting with diaz's paper skin

^ SPLAT

Cue public outcry over bloody MMA

it'll be Arlovsky v. buentello every time he throws the leather
BOOM: one and done
no need to show off his wrestling background

OR Possibly getting headkicked! so much for the hands!

he should go to K-1 he would really kick ass there! cough sarcasm cough.

I wouldn't count a guy with Cintron's skill, power and athletic ability out no matter where he goes...

I bet you Cintron could take a headkick well enough to clinch and get a takedown after hes fucked up

I bet you Cintron could take a headkick well enough to clinch and get a takedown after hes fucked up

so long as margarito doesnt throw the head kick i'll agree w/ you. i'd like to see him give it a shot tho, the welterweight division is way tooo stacked right now

I don't see why he should give up boxing in the first place. Frazier couldn't beat Foreman. Ali couldn't beat Norton (2 gift decisions). Arguello couldn't beat Pryor. Willie Pep had Saddler, Barrera had Pac. Duran had Hearns, Hearns had Hagler. No matter how good you are, chances are there is someone with your number out there. Cintron is exciting and powerful, he belongs in boxing.

Move up or down a division... just stay the hell away from Margarito

I think he'll have a hard problem with alot of fighters at the top of that division. He might be able to hurt Punisher more than he hurt Margarito, but I think Punisher can hurt him back. I would like to see him fight Cotto before he left though. I wanna know if Cotto's chin is as diamond hard as Margaritos

I think he should get the hell out of WW. Margarito hurt him bad to the body and Cotto is likely to relocate his liver to the left side of his body.

Move up to 154 and pick a fight with Sergio Mora :D Seems to be a division full of flower punchers and hasbeens.

I honestly beleive there is soon to be more money to be made at 155 in the UFC than there is at 154 in boxing (SANS DE LA HOYA who I don't beleive would take that fight). Think of all the huge fights he could make there. BJ, Gomi, Aoki, (147 vs Faber and Kid). These are all (in the future) big money fights. (Right now fighting Urijah is obviously not that big of money considering he earned 44 grand for his fight against Pulver. But in another organization as a PPV attraction it could do big money - especially with a PPV % like Liddell or another star would have.

Man its so weird that Cintron is in the same "weightclass" as these guys. Cintron is built like an MMA welterweight. He's like 6 feet tall.

MMA fighters have more weight in their lower body. Corey Hill is built like a boxer. Paul Punisher is like 7'1" and 147.

Paul's a freak, he has a bigger listed reach than Klitchsko for fucks sake!

LMAO he would KILL DIAZ LMAOOOOOO I would love that

kill diaz??? are you fucking forgetting about that thing called gracie jiu jitsu that nick is really fucking good at? cintron may have good wrestling credentials, but is he better on the ground than karo or diego or sherk?? no does he have more power in his punches than Joe Riggs or Robbie Lawler? no get real and quit hatin

does he have more power in his punches than Joe Riggs or Robbie Lawler? no get real and quit hatin

I'm willing to bet he does

I would put 10,000 bucks that he hits harder than Joe Riggs or Robbie Lawler. There is a difference between being a devastating puncher at the highest level of boxing and being a guy that won a couple pro fights against no namers.

And thats 1 punch power. If you make it a combination that he (a very talented boxer) can throw that the Joe Riggs and Robbie Lawler can't throw with proper balance and timing this becomes cumulatively worse.

Also Diaz could barely take down Noons. Cintron was a fantastic wrestler not just decent. What makes you think he'd take down Cintron to beat him on the ground?

The UFC likes to tout guys as "having pro boxing fights" or having "a successful boxing career on the side" when its guys like Alessio Sakara, who is like a super can compared to real boxers. Jens Pulver is probably the most successful and his career (4-0-0 3KO's) wouldn't be described as more than beating a can and 3 noobs.

There is a reason Cintron jumped at the chance to fight Sean Sherk when they were calling out Mayweather and Dana didn't wanna have any part of it.

(As an amateur Cintron was a better wrestler than Sherk)

Cintron def hits harder than anyone in MMA at or around 155lbs. granted he prob has 0 jits skills. but if it stays on the feet he would kill Lawler and Riggs no question. 4oz gloves, r u serious! its not even a question

bottom line i dont think Cintron could "kill" Nick or beat him anywhere. I've seen Nick and Andre Ward go at it hard and Nick holds his own. In an MMA fight, Cintron would lose

If Cintron turns MMA he holds the lightweight title in 2 years. His sprawl and brawl would be the best in the sport.

he would get raped in mma.

hello mr. boxer, let me introduce you to my knee. did that taste good? here have an elbow. not full yet? here eat my shin. not to even mention grappling.

i love it when people act like any boxer could do well in mma. i could care less if he had a wrestling background he's gonna need a solid 2 years of full time mma training before he could even beat b level mixed martial artists.

Sakara's record is a joke. He's never beaten a guy with a win! Go to boxrec and look at his record and opponents. 0-0. 0-0. 0-17.

The only guy with a winning record who he fought (8-1) knocked him out.

he would get raped in mma.

hello mr. boxer, let me introduce you to my knee. did that taste good? here have an elbow. not full yet? here eat my shin. not to even mention grappling.

i love it when people act like any boxer could do well in mma. i could care less if he had a wrestling background he's gonna need a solid 2 years of full time mma training before he could even beat b level mixed martial artists.

Yet another stupid post by the forum idiot. There's never been a successful boxer to compete in MMA.

Grappling? You mean like wrestling? Like the type where Cintron was nationally ranked going into college? You act like Chuck Liddell is worried about submissions. You gotta get and keep a guy on the ground to get a submission. A fight starts on its feet. Its worked for Liddell and Wanderlei Silva for years.

wand is a black belt dumbass and chuck a purple i believe.

kermit would get raped. end of story.

Who the hell has Wand ever submitted? He had an injured, out of shape kickboxer (Mark Hunt) in nearly every position (guard, half guard, mount, ect) and still couldn't do shit. The only guy I can think of that that ape has submitted is Dirty Bob

when has wand ever been submitted?? ^^ bingo there's your answer

bjj is more than offensive submissions. it's about everything. defense, positions, counters, etc.

Also Diaz could barely take down Noons. Cintron was a fantastic wrestler not just decent. What makes you think he'd take down Cintron to beat him on the ground?

As far as I know he was a fringe AA in junior college. That isn't exactly what I would label fantastic.

he would get raped in mma.

hello mr. boxer, let me introduce you to my knee. did that taste good? here have an elbow. not full yet? here eat my shin. not to even mention grappling.

i love it when people act like any boxer could do well in mma. i could care less if he had a wrestling background he's gonna need a solid 2 years of full time mma training before he could even beat b level mixed martial artists.
yeah, a good 2 years is what he needs. non mma fighters cant do shit without 2 years of mma.
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great examples LMAO ^^

As far as I know he was a fringe AA in junior college. That isn't exactly what I would label fantastic.

He earned full free rides at Wisconsin and Ohio State based on his wrestling then instead of taking those went to Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology in PA and placed 10th in the NJCAA Wrestling Championships as a true freshman. THEN he took up boxing full time and quit wrestling.

EDIT:: So yes he was a fringe AA in JC -- AS AN 18 YEAR OLD FRESHMAN. So is his wrestling pedigree Jake Roshalt? No. Is it better than Sherk's? Um yah actually. Is Sherk the better wrestler NOW? Yes. Would it take long for him to refresh his abilities and dominate folks? not that long

yeah, a good 2 years is what he needs. non mma fighters cant do shit without 2 years of mma.
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I actually agree with UTT holy shit. Elite level fighters in any combat sport can come in and do well. Cyrille Diabate didn't come into MMA as a BJJ master. But he's always been dangerous. There has never been a NEAR top level boxer to compete in MMA. At least one who has any semblance of takedown defense. Cintron will be the one, you'll see - I'll show you.

so is he gonna do this or what? i'd love to see him tapped out via forearm choke

He earned full free rides at Wisconsin and Ohio State based on his wrestling then instead of taking those went to Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology in PA and placed 10th in the NJCAA Wrestling Championships as a true freshman. THEN he took up boxing full time and quit wrestling.

EDIT:: So yes he was a fringe AA in JC -- AS AN 18 YEAR OLD FRESHMAN. So is his wrestling pedigree Jake Roshalt? No. Is it better than Sherk's? Um yah actually. Is Sherk the better wrestler NOW? Yes. Would it take long for him to refresh his abilities and dominate folks? not that long

For someone finishing 10th in JC's, solid is probably a better word to use then fantastic.

His wrestling Pedigree is just as good as Tito's. Imagine if Tito were a championship level boxer at by far the deepest weight class in boxing. One that even with boxing gloves on KO'd all but 1 of the opponents he's beaten. Killen folks with those hands

One question, have you ever seen Kermit wrestle before?

I saw him wreslte Karelin once. Never seen Alexander get thrown so much before.

i don't understand why does speak so highly of kermit's wrestling pedigree but i honestly haven't seen any footage or anything. i think wrestling needs to be worked on constantly or you lose it.

Kermit is a very very good boxer and unlike most boxers kermit has a wrestling background and a good high school wrestling background. Who knows, jeremy williams moved to mma and is undefeated although his opponents have all been d level fighters.

I think we can all agree that Kermit is an incredible athlete and, in theory, would have a better chance at achieving success in MMA than most boxers.

I personally think he's more setup for success in MMA than any athlete expect perhaps Stephen Neal

so is he gonna do this or what?

If you read Dan Rafael's rankings on ESPN it makes it seem more likely....

^
nah he just signed w/ a new promoter and for a fight. its also on espn boxing.com
oppenent TBD