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jotun
08-18-2006, 03:52 AM
anybody know how much mma guys bench, squat, or power clean?

this is what i have found:
1. Ken Shamrock - claims a 600 lb. bench (frank shamrock says Ken benches 475 max)
2. Mark Coleman - 600 lb. bench press (can anybody verify this?...he doesn't look like he could bench this much)
3. Tank Abbot - we've all seen the vid...600 lb. bench press
4. Bob Sapp - 585 lb. bench press, 420 lb. power clean, 800 lb. squat
5. Brock Lesnar (futur mma fighter) - 475 lb. bench, 695 lb. squat
6. Royce Gracie - 10 lb. bench press
7. Jerome Le Banner - 353 lb. bench
8. Ron Waterman - 500 lb. bench
9. Gary Goodridge - 585 lb. bench
10. Scott Ferrozzo (the big guy who beat tank) - 500 lb. bench
11. Mark Kerr - 505 lb. bench, 800 lb. squat
12. Marko Filipovic - benches 330 3 times, which is about 356 lb. max
13. Kevin Randleman - claims to max in the 300's on the bench
14. Matt Huges - 310lb bench, 375 squat

ninjashoes
08-18-2006, 04:06 AM
cool stats but probably one of the least important area of muscles for fighting

dynamitemitch
08-18-2006, 04:11 AM
big bench usually = bad shoulders. But more importantly = useless

ninjashoes
08-18-2006, 04:18 AM
it increases bulk and core strength and it probably the best weight excercise to get that v taper look bodybuilders strive for

jotun
08-18-2006, 04:18 AM
you're right, big benches are useless in fighting...but are still good for impressing women :)

Squirrel
08-18-2006, 04:21 AM
3. Tank Abbot - we've all seen the vid...600 lb. bench press


Tank admitted that the video was fake.

jotun
08-18-2006, 05:03 AM
squirrel, that makes a lot of sense now. i never believed tank was big enough to bench 600

jotun
08-18-2006, 06:02 AM
i added some more bench numbers

ninjashoes
08-18-2006, 06:52 AM
wow I did not know the tank video was fake, it looks to me like its a ton of weight because the bar is bending

Vens
08-18-2006, 07:55 AM
does anyone have a picture of a v shaped chest?

Lethal730
08-18-2006, 08:49 AM
kinda off issue but...i noticed Frank did not agree with his brother Ken on how much he could bench. Do those 2 get along?

Vens
08-18-2006, 09:26 AM
kinda of issue but...i noticed Frank did not agree with his brother Ken on how much he could bench. Do those 2 get along?

No they do not get along..

That's why frank left lions den..

apparently ken is an asshole...if that's obvious.

ninjashoes
08-18-2006, 10:33 AM
They get along as of now, they had a dispute that lasted for awhile but their dad yelled at them so they get along now.

King
08-18-2006, 10:47 AM
Bench makes your triceps grow bigger and you can hit harder

nzjujitsu
08-18-2006, 01:24 PM
own

Lethal730
08-18-2006, 01:43 PM
They get along as of now, they had a dispute that lasted for awhile but their dad yelled at them so they get along now.
thats nice:smile:

Sweeper
08-18-2006, 02:35 PM
Bench makes your triceps grow bigger and you can hit harder

Close grip bench maybe

peter
08-18-2006, 08:48 PM
Lions den=Kindergarden

SolitaryIndividual
08-18-2006, 09:01 PM
anybody know if colemans claim of 600 is legit???

King
08-18-2006, 09:36 PM
He does look like he has a big chest but I donīt think he can lift that much...

SolitaryIndividual
08-19-2006, 12:51 AM
yeah thats what i thought

jotun
08-19-2006, 01:10 AM
i heard that coleman could bench 600 before he fought in the ufc, but when he started training for the ufc he focused more on his endurance and quickness

Evil
08-19-2006, 02:35 AM
I only bench 150 lbs about 15 times as fast as I can.

igaboj
08-20-2006, 07:06 PM
Randleman benches close to nothing for his size and bulk.. I'm pretty sure he can do more than that.

ninjashoes
08-21-2006, 12:36 AM
Bench makes your triceps grow bigger and you can hit harder

That kind of power isnt what increases your punch, its the speed that you throw the punch and getting the movement perfect which give you power. You use alot of the same muscles but in a different way, your also getting your nervous system to respond quicker.

hitting the heavy bag>900 lb bench press

Although a large weight lifter will have more weight thrown into his punches because his fist is carrying more weight behind it someone who practices martial arts but is much skinnier can bridge the gap by increasing his punching speed.

King
08-21-2006, 01:45 PM
That kind of power isnt what increases your punch, its the speed that you throw the punch and getting the movement perfect which give you power. You use alot of the same muscles but in a different way, your also getting your nervous system to respond quicker.

hitting the heavy bag>900 lb bench press

Although a large weight lifter will have more weight thrown into his punches because his fist is carrying more weight behind it someone who practices martial arts but is much skinnier can bridge the gap by increasing his punching speed.

All true, but you can only have limited speed, and weight can be almost unlimited.

jeesukkie
08-23-2006, 06:25 AM
Hughes probably benches more than 310. For someone at his weight who's noted for his freakish strength, 310 doesn't seem very special.

Randleman's bench definitely exceeds 400. There's no way it can be in the 300 range.

Vens
08-23-2006, 11:59 AM
Hughes probably benches more than 310. For someone at his weight who's noted for his freakish strength, 310 doesn't seem very special.

Randleman's bench definitely exceeds 400. There's no way it can be in the 300 range.

no not true about hughes..

MMA fighters, have said that they don't spend more than an hour doing weights. Matt Hughes said it.

and they don't lift as much..

They do more wrestling and grappling for strength training, because you get a different type of strength...
I mean lifting heavy weights helps...but You don't have to spend three hours in the gym..

CHE
08-23-2006, 12:34 PM
about a thick chick that slightly outweighs me.

weeb
08-26-2006, 08:31 PM
lmao at roycw

weeb
08-26-2006, 08:31 PM
royce*

jotun
08-27-2006, 12:37 AM
these guys are professional fighters not professional powerlifters. the ones that can benchlot are usually the wrestlers or football players, because lifting was their job in the off season when they played their sports

jotun
08-27-2006, 12:40 AM
randleman can't bench press 400, he definitely is not big enough at all. he's about as big as a wide receiver in football. he said "I probably bench three [hundred] something, but I don’t even try to go that high" in an interview:

http://www.ironlife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3121

jotun
08-27-2006, 01:01 AM
matt hughes is a strong guy, but he's really not that strong compared to professional athletes. this shouldn't be surprising for matt hughes, bc look at his size - 5'9" and 170 lbs. at the 170 lb. level it is rare to find anybody with a 300 lb bench, so thats quite an accomplishment for him.

proof of his bench...straight from the guy himself on his website:
http://www.matt-hughes.com/askmatt.html

vengeful
08-27-2006, 04:04 AM
I don't believe the majority of those numbers.

newfiedude
08-27-2006, 05:41 AM
I don't believe most of those either... i'd like to see a source/proof...

FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz
08-27-2006, 06:51 AM
He looks like one strong guy thats for sure.

ferg[adr]
08-27-2006, 08:51 AM
i seriously doubt he ever lifted 310 on a bench press. he's too small of a guy.

i haven't maxed out for a long time, but last time i tried it did a single 295 pound lift. however, i weigh about 240 pounds and i am 6'1"

now, obviously i don't train and work my ass off in the gym like matt hughes does but he's still just way too small of a guy for me to believe those numbers.

Vens
08-27-2006, 04:37 PM
a big chest is useless...anyways.

legs are more important, especially thighs.

hambik
08-28-2006, 08:53 AM
i bench about 280... and im 6'3 so i dont know .. if thats good or not and im 200 pounds ..

hambik
08-28-2006, 08:56 AM
dose it matter how much i squat....?

The Glove
08-28-2006, 02:15 PM
I only bench about 170 lbs hehe, I am out of shape :(

But I donīt think it makes a big difference in MMA if you bench 300 instead of 500. And 600 lbs bench press is way too much for an MMA fighter, I really donīt think anyone in the MMA game right now can bench that much.

jotun
08-28-2006, 09:37 PM
i think the squat is the most important exercise, bc it makes your legs stronger. you can do push kicks better and it would make you be tougher to be taken down.

dynamitemitch
08-28-2006, 10:37 PM
Personally i think deadlift, squat and clean and press numbers to be more important than bench press poundages

s82perry
09-03-2006, 11:05 AM
Benching is a good workout but its overratted

Lethal730
09-03-2006, 11:14 AM
my gym teacher in high school was over 60 years old and couldn't have wieghed over 170 I saw him bench 315 pounds 4 times in a row...he also holds the record for fastest time in a marathon for someone over 60. Nike even made him his own shoe(air Whitleys). What I am getting at is that I'm sure Matt Hughes can bench over 300 pounds. Shit i use to be able to bench 260 when I was playin football sophmore year. 300 pounds really ain't shit for a pro athlete

Lethal730
09-03-2006, 11:15 AM
I only bench about 170 lbs hehe, I am out of shape :(

But I donīt think it makes a big difference in MMA if you bench 300 instead of 500. And 600 lbs bench press is way too much for an MMA fighter, I really donīt think anyone in the MMA game right now can bench that much.
I heard Tank say he can still bench that much when he was on THE BEATDOWN the other night

dynamitemitch
09-03-2006, 04:59 PM
One thing is that Hughes has to cut weight before his fights. I heard he walks around 195 usually in the offseason (if he ever gets one). So i don't see in the 300's being a big deal. I do 245 for 6 and I weigh 187. IMO bench can be kinda good for when you're in guard though...when you want to push someone off of you to create space.

hado3
11-12-2006, 07:09 AM
Those guys u listed are fighters not bodybuilders

ninjashoes
11-12-2006, 11:48 AM
Its always gonne give you more power when you increase your muscle strength but you need other muscles besides what bench gives you to throw a punch. Being stronger is gonna give you more torque in your punch but you can still bench 600lbs and hit like a bitch due to your body just not used to using all the punching muscles together, bad tecnique, no impact resistance and no fast twitch nervous system development.

Its good to bench and use weights for your striking and grappling strength but that strength needs to be applied to the task every day. Plus you need to do lower back, squating excercises and much much more.

chad
11-12-2006, 04:35 PM
apparantly lawler can bench 300lbs

chad
11-12-2006, 04:39 PM
randleman should be benching coleman the steroids hes taking

blackass
12-01-2006, 03:02 AM
:gives: HOW much a fighter can bench?!? I wish there was an excercise phsyiologist on this board, cause people be throwing around some really naive fitness, bio-chemical ideas. ANYWAY, not to be a dick, but Bench PRess is completely un-important for MMA. I'll relate a little story from my buddy Paul Check :google: When he was the US ARMY boxing coach he could only bench 225. One day a huge guy who benched 450 challenged Paul to a pushup contest (max in two minutes) While the behemoth did 65 Paul did 128. Point is Maxing out = slow movment. TRAIN SLOW YOU WILL BE SLOW. You must develop the neuro-endrocine system for MAX speed, ala Floyd MaryWeather.




PS MOST THOSE 500 600 lbs NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIT!! Most 350 lb linemin in the NFL can't bench 600, so there is no way Shammy or Coleman did.

HitmanNO.1
12-04-2006, 02:40 AM
bench is a bad indicator of overall strength, but squat is a different story.

blackass
12-05-2006, 01:20 AM
bench is a bad indicator of overall strength, but squat is a different story.

Word up! The squat is the King of Excercises. Even though Fedor probably hasn't squated in like 5 years, I bet he still puts up 350+ I base this just on looking at him doing plyos and explosiveness in the ring.

TheRich
12-05-2006, 02:23 AM
controversy about bench press.... why? it's just a strength exercise.. upperbody c/sh/tr exactly as advertised... not gonna make/break a fighter
The #s show they don't mean everything. Mirko's is only in the 300's but hes one of the strongest. But still it's not a bad exercise

Carl Emelianenko
12-05-2006, 02:56 AM
Squats & Milk = strength.

aussjj
12-05-2006, 05:39 AM
The Raw Bench Press record is 715 lbs held by Scot Mendelson. it took less then one minute for me to google that.

With that said, i dont really believe any of these numbers. I always heard that if you can bench press your body weight then that is pretty good. Of course, its probably not so good for a pro athlete, but for some reason i dont see Coleman and Shamrock benching anywhere close to 600 (almost 3x there body weight) even in their prime. Matt Hughes said his weakest muscles were his chest, and Bob Sapp can certainly bench more than the rest of the guys.
So to me, this looks like complete bs.

Carl Emelianenko
12-05-2006, 03:26 PM
Obviously B.S.

And I don't think benching your body weight is very good, unless you mean someone who does not do any type of strength training whatsoever.

As for Cro Cop benching 600; ahahaha.

aussjj
12-05-2006, 07:57 PM
Obviously B.S.

And I don't think benching your body weight is very good, unless you mean someone who does not do any type of strength training whatsoever.

As for Cro Cop benching 600; ahahaha.

obviously not for someone who lifts weights, but for your average person who wants to stay healthy, then yes.

and ya, no way crocop can bech 600, my guess would be 300. all his weight is in his legs anyway

blackass
12-05-2006, 09:58 PM
Having gone to school with La roi glover (all pro d -lineman) I can say that his best bench ever was 500. He is way bigger/stronger than coleman. I bet he gives sapp a run for the money in strength

j.griff
12-07-2006, 05:03 PM
:gives: i mean if a mma fighter loses his title/belt whats he gonna say
ah well at lease i can still bench press 600lbs....

anyways lifting heavy weights will make you stronger
but it will also make you slower a hell of lot slower..

georgesstpierre
12-09-2006, 09:06 PM
its actually a myth that heavy weight training makes you slower. if you intergrate it into a proper regiment, it will actually make you faster.

svr01
12-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Does anybody know how much 600lbs is in kg? We never use lbs so i have like no idea how much it is. Do i have to divide by 2 or anything else?
I only bench about 75 kg, thats my own weight, i really can't go above that. Doing the double of your own weight really is sick + pretty useless for mma in my opinion because it makes you slow like other people have said before.

deegs
12-10-2006, 04:38 AM
Does anybody know how much 600lbs is in kg? We never use lbs so i have like no idea how much it is. Do i have to divide by 2 or anything else?
I only bench about 75 kg, thats my own weight, i really can't go above that. Doing the double of your own weight really is sick + pretty useless for mma in my opinion because it makes you slow like other people have said before.

1 kg = 2.2046 lbs

hotnewton
12-23-2006, 08:52 AM
;148536']i seriously doubt he ever lifted 310 on a bench press. he's too small of a guy.

i haven't maxed out for a long time, but last time i tried it did a single 295 pound lift. however, i weigh about 240 pounds and i am 6'1"

now, obviously i don't train and work my ass off in the gym like matt hughes does but he's still just way too small of a guy for me to believe those numbers.

Saying that Matts body is too small for him to bench 310 is not a good argument. I have a cripple friend with messed up legs (seriously) who only weighs 175 who in his prime could push 315.

the argument that should be made is that the type of training Matt Hughes does would make it near impossible for him to get his bench press numbers that high.

hotnewton
12-23-2006, 08:53 AM
its actually a myth that heavy weight training makes you slower. if you intergrate it into a proper regiment, it will actually make you faster.

Nice post... and 100% true. If done right, heavy lifting can help increase speed and explosiveness

faukemonster
12-31-2006, 04:29 PM
Good info. I was curious about big benches and if it helped in fighting.

kinjo
01-03-2007, 01:07 AM
i dont really belive they can bench 600lbs, guys that are strongman ok but they look much much bigger

dynamitemitch
01-03-2007, 04:01 AM
i personally don't think a person needs to bench regularly to build a strong chest. JC Santana get people using resistant bands most of the time and include periodic bench and dumbell press. Monson seems to do it and he's pretty strong. Also, this periodic bench/band training is supposed to be good for punching power adding to non-core power

Pcmaker
01-03-2007, 04:28 AM
Punching power is Speed x Weight of fist.

Vens
01-03-2007, 08:19 AM
Punching power is Speed x Weight of fist.

Also genetics..

Doing the Mass workout isn't good for MMA for a number of reasons..

ask any MMA fighter that, and they will tell you that..

Kid yamamoto does circuit workouts, GSP, mostly all WW's, and lightweights do..as well as middleweights, actually mostly all fighters do circuit training.

circuit workouts are good for the heart, cardio, and Bar none is ten times better for fighting, flexibility, Endurance in the muscles, Muscle twitch fibers get better, quicker on your feet, and faster strikes..etc..

Mass workouts get you stronger, bigger, but you lack speed sometimes, have bad cardio, don't have any good endurance in the muscles slower foot movement, etc...

Vens
01-03-2007, 08:20 AM
Punching power is Speed x Weight of fist.

speed, weight in the pucnh, tecnique, accuracy, genetics, hip quickeness, and of course the legs.

blackass
01-04-2007, 03:49 AM
Punching Power is: The force your entire body is capable of producing chanelled into your hand

dynamitemitch
01-04-2007, 04:44 AM
i agree mass workouts are not the best for mma but i personally emphasize power exercizes and strongman like exercizes like sled drags and clean and press. i believe strength and explosiveness play an equally important part in martial arts as speed

Vens
01-04-2007, 05:24 AM
i agree mass workouts are not the best for mma but i personally emphasize power exercizes and strongman like exercizes like sled drags and clean and press. i believe strength and explosiveness play an equally important part in martial arts as speed

I do mass workouts, but they aren't the best for MMA..

some are though..

Vens
01-04-2007, 05:24 AM
Punching Power is: The force your entire body is capable of producing chanelled into your hand

Boxing Techinque!

huge
01-04-2007, 06:47 PM
1RM Bench - 120kgs (Not the best bench ever and duno what that is in lbs but considering im 85kgs and rarely train heavy on Bench im quite pleased with that!)

As others have said what you can bench isn't really important for MMA, just a form of braging rights!

smellybandana
01-16-2007, 01:50 PM
lol royce gracie is prob like 2 pounds

smellybandana
01-16-2007, 01:51 PM
dats right

blackass
01-17-2007, 06:11 AM
Its really really sad how this is the most viewed thread in the Training section