View Full Version : Blackwater gets contract extended 1 year...... after killing 17 civilians


pokey
04-05-2008, 10:39 PM
MSNBC News Services
updated 3:00 p.m. MT, Fri., April. 4, 2008
WASHINGTON - The U.S. State Department has agreed to renew Blackwater USA's license to protect diplomats in Baghdad for one year while the FBI investigates a 2007 incident in which the company's guards are accused of killing 17 Iraqis.

Assistant Secretary of State Gregory Starr told reporters Friday that because the shooting of Baghdad civilians is still under investigation, there is no reason not to renew the contract when it comes due in May. Blackwater has a five-year deal to provide personal protection for diplomats, which is reauthorized each year.

Iraqis were outraged over a Sept. 16 shooting in which 17 civilians were killed in a Baghdad square. Blackwater said its guards were protecting diplomats under attack before they opened fire, but Iraqi investigators concluded the shooting was unprovoked.

A measure issued by the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in 2004 prevents foreign security contractors from being prosecuted in local courts. It is unclear whether they could be prosecuted under U.S. law.

After the incident, the State Department changed several elements of the contract, including tightening up rules of engagement, putting cameras on all convoys and having a diplomatic security officer ride along with the detail.

Starr said Blackwater was operating with the agreement of the Iraqi government and he did not know when the FBI's investigation of the incident would be completed.

Asked whether the Blackwater Baghdad deal could be scrapped if the FBI investigation found wrongdoing, Starr said: "We can terminate contracts at the convenience of the government if we have to."

"I am not going to prejudge what the FBI is going to find in their investigation. I think really, it is complex. I think that the U.S. government needs protective services," he said.

"Essentially I think they do a very good job. The September 16th incident was a tragedy. It has to be investigated carefully," he added.

"I am concerned (about the Iraqi response) and yet at the same time there have only been about three incidents, three escalation of force incidents, since Sept. 16," he said.

source: msnbc.msn.com

yousayunclenow
04-06-2008, 03:21 AM
Would be nice if shitwater answers to the military during operations.....

12ninja
04-06-2008, 06:30 AM
blackwater FTW!!!!

Pcmaker
04-06-2008, 06:45 AM
I applied for blackwater less than a year ago, but they never contacted me. motherfuckers only pick special forces. I got as much experience as any sf motherfuckers out there.

ItBurnzWhenIP
04-27-2008, 09:14 PM
PC if you're from the line I heard a while back they really won't talk to you if you have less than 8 years in for right or wrong. I know a few straight deuchebags that got Selected and if they made it the rest of the way through the Q would probably get out - join blackwater - and immediately proceed to be the dudes we're hearin about here.


On that note though most group guys are good at their jobs. And to blame some shit like this on Blackwater when 97.5% of the dudes that work there aren't turds and 2.5% fuck up isn't really fair. The blackwater guys aren't Dog the fuckin bounty hunter over there shooting people. Its alot of motherfuckers that used to be in Delta, Force Recon, SEALS, SF. Cut them some slack, most of them know what they're doing.

pokey
04-27-2008, 09:21 PM
yea but they never pressed charges against the men that did this, and they didnt fire them either

chulahumper
04-27-2008, 09:49 PM
PC if you're from the line I heard a while back they really won't talk to you if you have less than 8 years in for right or wrong. I know a few straight deuchebags that got Selected and if they made it the rest of the way through the Q would probably get out - join blackwater - and immediately proceed to be the dudes we're hearin about here.


On that note though most group guys are good at their jobs. And to blame some shit like this on Blackwater when 97.5% of the dudes that work there aren't turds and 2.5% fuck up isn't really fair. The blackwater guys aren't Dog the fuckin bounty hunter over there shooting people. Its alot of motherfuckers that used to be in Delta, Force Recon, SEALS, SF. Cut them some slack, most of them know what they're doing.

I agree with you for the most part. The only issue I have with contracting such a large group of specialized soldiers is that they aren't bound to uphold any sort of military law. I realize the one's fucking up and getting talked about on the news are a small handful but, when the shit hits the fan it's a definite grey area in terms of how to handle the situation. I don't remember the exact incident, but I know that the Iraqis wanted to have several of these guys tried for murder and wanted the U.S. to respect this request and have them extradited. Okay, so the official position is they are a private firm and are not subject to military law. I mean, in essence you and I are footing the bill via taxes for the government to subcontract a war to a large militia so, at the very least let there be some accountability on someones part.

DUBB$10
04-28-2008, 05:50 PM
of course the Iraqis conclude the shootings were unprovoked, just cause they were civilians doesnt mean they arent terrorist or didnt provoke the shootings

ItBurnzWhenIP
04-28-2008, 09:34 PM
The guys operate on very thin ice. They get ZERO backup from the military if shit hits the fan so if something goes fuckin wrong they can't just withdraw and call backup they gotta fight for their life. It might not be so clear cut as you think. Hindsight is 20/20

erxgli
04-30-2008, 04:22 AM
Eh...anyone really surprised at all?