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xcept68 04-03-2008, 04:05 PM Are you Muslim?
GiantRobotDelux 04-04-2008, 09:11 AM No, I am not Muslim. So I am not represented in the poll.
xcept68 04-04-2008, 04:00 PM What are you? I'm not Muslim either.
GiantRobotDelux 04-05-2008, 10:25 AM I am not a religion.
Lord Krishna 04-05-2008, 10:38 AM I am not a religion.
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Lord Krishna 04-05-2008, 11:14 AM Speaking of islam
http://www.apunkachoice.com/movies/mov1082/khuda_ke_liye-review.html
amanamagus 05-24-2008, 06:39 PM Speaking of islam
http://www.apunkachoice.com/movies/mov1082/khuda_ke_liye-review.html
I need to see this one.
jetjaguar 05-24-2008, 06:46 PM http://daddytypes.com/archive/oobi_eyes_hand_wig.jpg
religion is dumb whether you have to wear a towel on your head or not
Lord Krishna 05-24-2008, 06:57 PM http://daddytypes.com/archive/oobi_eyes_hand_wig.jpg
religion is dumb whether you have to wear a towel on your head or not
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amanamagus 05-24-2008, 07:30 PM http://daddytypes.com/archive/oobi_eyes_hand_wig.jpg
religion is dumb whether you have to wear a towel on your head or not
I wear a towel on my head. I'm not a Muslim. Why do you think that religion is dumb? I mean its your opinion and you're entitled to that.... I'm just curious.
jetjaguar 05-24-2008, 08:07 PM I wear a towel on my head. I'm not a Muslim. Why do you think that religion is dumb? I mean its your opinion and you're entitled to that.... I'm just curious.
I think religion is dumb because it's a cultural relic from when man needed metaphysical concepts to explain the world around them. I have nothing against the sense of community that religious gatherings promote. I just don't believe that one needs to believe in supernatural mumbo jumbo to be a good person. As far as your choice of head wear goes; I've certainly had my share of silly hats and haircuts, so I'm not in a position to criticize. Although if it rains, you'll probably have the advantage in that respect.:wink:
ShadowoftheDarkgod 05-25-2008, 01:55 AM I for one think religion is an integral part of a human being. Its basically where you base your judgment between good and evil.
Also on topic; Islam is ok, I just don't like that part of their teaching about Jihad.
GiantRobotDelux 05-26-2008, 09:06 PM I for one think religion is an integral part of a human being. Its basically where you base your judgment between good and evil.
Also on topic; Islam is ok, I just don't like that part of their teaching about Jihad.
jihād, literally ‘effort,’ expressing, in Muslim thought, struggle on behalf of God and Islam.
Jihad does not mean holy war.. there is nothing in the Quran that implies a jihad is a war. This is western media sensationalism.
xcept68 05-27-2008, 01:48 AM I love how all the "non-religious" attack religion. Usually when someone attacks something they aren't part of its out of fear of the unknown. This is why you do not see knowledgeable Christians attacking other belief systems. We understand it and know that it cannot overtake us, because we have a strong backing of truth in our life. Unlike the non-believer. If you have no faith, then you will fall for anything. Atheism is merely ignorance and being sheeple and following the media (Which is run by Ted Turner, a very well known atheist). Go figure.
jetjaguar 05-27-2008, 02:03 AM I love how all the "non-religious" attack religion. Usually when someone attacks something they aren't part of its out of fear of the unknown. This is why you do not see knowledgeable Christians attacking other belief systems. We understand it and know that it cannot overtake us, because we have a strong backing of truth in our life. Unlike the non-believer. If you have no faith, then you will fall for anything. Atheism is merely ignorance and being sheeple and following the media (Which is run by Ted Turner, a very well known atheist). Go figure.
Albigensian Crusade, Huguenot persecution, Persecution of Bahá'ís; are just a few examples of extremely violent conflicts based on religious intolerance.
lancaster 05-27-2008, 03:25 AM ... the non-believer. If you have no faith, then you will fall for anything.
If you don't believe us, then you'll fall for anything?
Used car salesman: So you don't believe this car was only owned by a little old lady who just used to drive it to church on Sundays? Well buddy, you just go to the next used car dealer ship and they'll sell you a piece of shit and you'll believe it's the bees knees. People like you will believe anything!
What is wrong with this picture?
GiantRobotDelux 05-27-2008, 06:05 AM I love how all the "non-religious" attack religion. Usually when someone attacks something they aren't part of its out of fear of the unknown. This is why you do not see knowledgeable Christians attacking other belief systems. We understand it and know that it cannot overtake us, because we have a strong backing of truth in our life. Unlike the non-believer. If you have no faith, then you will fall for anything. Atheism is merely ignorance and being sheeple and following the media (Which is run by Ted Turner, a very well known atheist). Go figure.
Ted Turner may play a huge part in media in YOUR country. But he doesn't own shit abroad. Also, Atheism existed before media. Before Gutenberg printed the christian bible. I live and Canada and when I watch American news they mention god alot. ALOT. WAY more then we do and people can be very religious in this country.
xcept68 06-04-2008, 07:09 PM Atheism existed at the point when Cain told his children not to worship the God of his father Adam. Cain was cursed for killing his brother Abel. If you were Cain, wouldn't you tell your children that they believe the truth and that the others believe a lie? Or else you would look like a jackass to your offspring. I believe this is where it started from.
Just an opinion, but I think it's interesting.
deegs 06-04-2008, 07:24 PM your opinion is not interesting
xcept68 06-04-2008, 07:33 PM glad to hear
lancaster 06-05-2008, 12:11 AM Atheism existed at the point when Cain told his children not to worship the God of his father Adam.
I'll ignore the fact that you still have no idea what Atheism is. How did Cain have children? The only other woman around was Eve and she was safely tucked away in the Garden of Eden, which Cain was expelled from.
deegs 06-05-2008, 12:13 AM divine intervention. when christianity runs out of logical ways to confuse it's followers, they say it's magic.
ShadowoftheDarkgod 06-05-2008, 12:49 AM I'll ignore the fact that you still have no idea what Atheism is. How did Cain have children? The only other woman around was Eve and she was safely tucked away in the Garden of Eden, which Cain was expelled from.
This is a common misconception in the Bible as it was thought that Adam only had 3 sons (Abel, Cain and Seth) were in fact he had sons and daughters.
Passage Genesis 5:4:
4 After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
And yes, Cain married his sister.
lancaster 06-05-2008, 06:35 AM http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_4#17
An cain knew his wife (cuz Adam n Eve haz dortaz hu sonz cans marry but I didnt tell u yets); An she is has teh kid enoch: An cain builded city, An callded teh name ov teh city, afters teh name ov his son, enoch.
You're right. The lolcat bible is always much clearer than King James.
xcept68 06-05-2008, 06:04 PM I'll ignore the fact that you still have no idea what Atheism is. How did Cain have children? The only other woman around was Eve and she was safely tucked away in the Garden of Eden, which Cain was expelled from.
this statement clearly shows your ignorance.
Adam and Eve had many children. The only ones mentioned in the Bible are the ones relevant to the lineage of Christ.
For example, according to Jewish tradition Adam and Eve supposedly had 33 sons and 23 daughters. This would certainly make much sense. The only children that are mentioned are the ones after their fall, which was likely 130 years according to Jewish tradition once again which comes from writings in the Talmud and the OT.
At the point Adam and Eve fell, they knew there would be a savior to come and They thought Cain was, but he was a murderer. So next was Seth (The chosen one) to carry the lineage to Christ. Also satan looking to prevent Jesus from being born, which is probably one reason Cain killed Abel. The Bible isn't clear on this, but it is interesting to study.
lancaster 06-06-2008, 03:37 AM this statement clearly shows your ignorance.
I freely acknowledge my ignorance on all the intricacies of the bible. Just like I don't know off by heart what happens on page 43 of Harry Potter. I don't care enough about it.
For example, according to Jewish tradition Adam and Eve supposedly had 33 sons and 23 daughters.
This is the part of the whole bible thing that is ludicrously funny. Some of the myth is taken from the book and other parts of the myth are just heresay and assumed to be true.
xcept68, you claim to be the keeper of all the secrets of the True(tm) christianity. You should start your own website and amaze us with your knowledge.
xcept68 06-06-2008, 06:17 AM no need, there are plenty already out there, and you don't refer to theirs, so why would you refer to mine?
I stated the information about Adam and Eve's children to show you that it's widely understood that they didn't just have 3 boys. That alone would completely disprove Christianity. So knowing this, you can apply that reasoning to the other portions of the Bible that you misinterpret and think you have read it correctly. The Bible calls for a certain amount of Spiritual discernment. This is what you are lacking.
You shold care what's in the Bible for it tells you how to keep yourself out of harms way and from perishing in eternal torment.
lancaster 06-06-2008, 08:20 AM Okay that makes sense. I've another question. If all that is needed to get into heaven is to accept Jesus as your personal saviour, then isn't the bible superfluous? If I break all of the commandments, as long as I repent I get to go to heaven. So why all this emphasis on the bible if it isn't necessary.
xcept68 06-06-2008, 04:06 PM because there is more to it... God not only wants all of His creation to be saved, but God also wants us to have a safe and happy life while here. Think about it. You live at home with your father and mother and you fight and argue with them constantly, they don't help you with your life, they just allow you to do whatever you feel like, but you go out and get into trouble because you dont' get along with your parents. They still love you, they offer you a better way to live but you don't want to follow it or heed their advice. Then they die and you inherit the house. Now growing up the way you did, you didn't really learn how to take care of things around your house, or what to do to work or get a job, or pay the bills. If you had only listened to them it might have helped make your life easier.
God wants us to listen to his instruction in order that we are prepared for everything in our life. And the more we listen and love Him in return He will reward us, I do not know the reward nor the time or what is done here on earth compared to what is done in Heaven. But I do know that the rewards in Heaven will be great for those that dedicated their lives to Jesus. I would compare it to an orchestral conductor and his immaculate appreciation and knowledge of music, compared to the average joe's understanding and appreciation. So as we inherit crowns in heaven of which are spiritual gifts, how much more could a person appreciate Heaven with the type of understanding given upon them by God. You can accept Christ on your deathbed and get into Heaven by the skin of your teeth, but why waste your life and gamble at the last possible minute? God has a plan for you here and now. Just as me being here talking to you about this and you reading what I am writing.
xcept68 06-06-2008, 04:07 PM and Lancaster, I could probably talk on this for an entire topic
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