i'll start the discussion

one reason they should do it to save space in our prison systems

They make money off of us going to prison. So basically you're saying that the US GOV should legalize pot to lose tons of money in just one area alone?

Not gonna happen

im not saying that they should do it to lose money if i did i would of just said it. im saying it would make more room in our overcrowded prison system

They don't need more room. They'll just make the fuckers literally sleep on top of each other.

another good reason is so they can spend their time catching worse offenders, such as pedofiles

another good reason is so they can spend their time catching worse offenders, such as pedofiles

They make way to much money running child porn rings themselves. You people are dumbshits. Throw a bunch of morons on "To Catch A Predator" here and there in jail, and they're fine.

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you drive a hard bargain sir

They should legalize medical marijuana to help people with muscular dystrophy.

+1
there are many medical benifits

also it could be used as a renewable source of fuel, paper, and clothes

Fucking drinking is more hazardous than smoking weed

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Marijuana Dealers Offer Schwarzenegger One Billion Dollars
August 6, 2007 - stopthedrugwar.org

August 6 -- A coalition of California marijuana growers and dealers has offered Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger one billion dollars to solve the current state budget crisis. The group, calling itself Let Us Pay Taxes makes the offer through its web site LetUsPayTaxes.com. The offer comes at a time when the California legislature is deadlocked on a new budget and California has stopped issuing checks for vitally needed social services. Legislators are currently arguing over which programs will be cut in order to balance the budget.

“It is ridiculous that California can’t pay its bills,” said spokesman Clifford Schaffer. “It is a tragedy that they will cut badly needed services and programs such as medical care for the elderly and prison drug treatment when the money to fund all these programs and more is there and available. Everyone who is currently waiting for a check from the state should be enraged at this foolishness.”

Regulation and taxation of marijuana could produce six billion dollars in additional tax revenue, according to economic studies linked from their web site LetUsPayTaxes.com. In addition, it could save up to ten billion dollars in enforcement costs. “That is a conservative estimate,” said Schaffer. “By other estimates, the revenues could be five times that. The economists are with us all the way on this one. Marijuana prohibition is an economic disaster.”

“Let’s face reality,” Schaffer says. “Marijuana legalization is inevitable. The situation is already beyond control in California. The state and local authorities have offered safe harbor for medical marijuana use and the Federal Government simply doesn’t have the resources for effective control.” More importantly, says Schaffer, the operators of the medical marijuana clubs are no longer afraid of the Federal Government. “If you talk to them, you will find that they know they are going to win this battle. They know that the DEA is vastly outnumbered and can’t begin to prosecute all of them. The few that are prosecuted are accepting their fate as martyrs because they know that what they are doing is right. They are willing to sacrifice themselves to make the point that the Federal Government has just gone too far in interfering with very personal and private decisions. There is no way the DEA is going to win this battle. At this point, it is all over but the counting of the money – and the victims of the DEA.”

Schaffer went on to say that the national market for marijuana has been estimated from a low of ten billion dollars per year to more than fifty billion dollars per year. “The first states to regulate and tax marijuana will receive an economic bonanza bigger than the original California Gold Rush,” says Schaffer. “Some states will get rich like the Saudis.” Schaffer predicts that it will not take long for some local areas to wake up to the economic possibilities. “We are talking potentially big bucks here,” he said. “The Canadians are already starting to take note of a cannabis-fueled economic boom in some areas. Politicians can’t resist fresh cash, especially when it is coming to their local community. There will be big winners and losers here. The winners will be the ones who recognize the foregone conclusion first.”

The group also cites foreign terrorism as a reason to regulate and tax marijuana. “Drug Czar John Walters is being dishonest when he says that marijuana money goes to criminals and terrorists. The only reason any of that money goes to criminals or terrorists is because of the prohibition that Walters supports,” said Schaffer. “Marijuana prohibition makes criminals rich just like alcohol prohibition did. The criminals are now so rich and powerful that they can challenge the legitimate governments of their own countries. There is no reason to send billions of dollars per year to foreign criminal gangs when patriotic Americans make the best products in the world. There is no reason to suffer such a huge foreign trade deficit when that money could be providing jobs and funding badly needed services right here in the USA.”

Let Us Pay Taxes calls upon all US citizens to sign their petition at their web site http://LetUsPayTaxes.com and press the issue with their lawmakers. “Take the money, please,” said Schaffer. “These people want to contribute. Now it is up to our politicians to tell us why they want to send those billions to foreign criminal gangs rather than to their own voters.”


Some interesting info there.

Fucking drinking is more hazardous than smoking weed

awww i wanted to hear that, just cant cuz im at work. repost it

in response to your edit: +1

They wouldn't make money off taxing it. Like people would all of a sudden start buying taxed weed, they would keep growing their own and once it's uprooted who's to say if they bought it legally or not?

They wouldn't make money off taxing it. Like people would all of a sudden start buying taxed weed, they would keep growing their own and once it's uprooted who's to say if they bought it legally or not?

+1 thats the biggest reason the wont legalize it

The government doesn't want you to get high becuase you'll stop doing what they tell you and start asking questions.

They wouldn't make money off taxing it. Like people would all of a sudden start buying taxed weed, they would keep growing their own and once it's uprooted who's to say if they bought it legally or not?

It's all in the marketing. Who would have thought people would buy bottled water when there's perfectly good water coming out of the tap?

Not everyone has the space and time to grow their own weed. Sure some will. Just like some people brew their own beer. But the government still makes heaps of taxes from beer.

It's all in the marketing. Who would have thought people would buy bottled water when there's perfectly good water coming out of the tap?

Not everyone has the space and time to grow their own weed. Sure some will. Just like some people brew their own beer. But the government still makes heaps of taxes from beer.

I agree, but I still think atleast depending on the price it's marketed at. People will stick with untaxed weed seeing as it's a more easily obtained substance than bootleg ciggs or even alcohol. I'm assuming the government would still outlaw growing marijuana if they didn't do that they'd be screwed as people would have a massive supply that they could sell person to person working around the tax.

LEGALIZE IT, DON'T CRITICIZE IT.

Fucking site isn't letting me post the whole thing.

I just saw this and now I understand why Marijuana is illegal.

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they should legalise all drugs and sell them at cost. that way theres no criminal element involved. should legalise and regulate prositution too. same deal.

then with the ridiculous amounts of funds left in the policing budget they can catch criminals.

the fact drugs are illegal just means they cost more. you can still get em and people are gonna get fucked up on something if they feel the need.

so yeah legalise and sell high quality cheap.

they should legalise all drugs and sell them at cost. that way theres no criminal element involved. should legalise and regulate prositution too. same deal.

then with the ridiculous amounts of funds left in the policing budget they can catch criminals.

the fact drugs are illegal just means they cost more. you can still get em and people are gonna get fucked up on something if they feel the need.

so yeah legalise and sell high quality cheap.

Legalizing drugs is giving people the ok to do them. I know alot of people who smoke ciggs and drink, but won't touch illegal drugs. The fact that they're illegal gives some people a bad vibe about them and stops them from trying them. I really hate meth it's everywhere down here and it sucks and I don't want to take away any factor no matter how small that stops people from trying it.

Legalizing drugs is giving people the ok to do them. I know alot of people who smoke ciggs and drink, but won't touch illegal drugs. The fact that they're illegal gives some people a bad vibe about them and stops them from trying them. I really hate meth it's everywhere down here and it sucks and I don't want to take away any factor no matter how small that stops people from trying it.

Yeah, the vibe is "I don't wanna go to jail"

Lol

people that are too scared to try drugs because they are illegal will be to scared to try them if they are legal. or too educated/ intelligent. and its all about the education and rejuvenating and reinvesting in shitty areas with money they are currently wasting on an inneffective drugs strategy.

well at least here in Alberta anything under 30 grams is usually only a fine. same with schedule 3 drugs such as mushrooms and lsd. however cocaine or heroin or anyother schedule 2 drugs will get you fucking owned.

Yeah, the vibe is "I don't wanna go to jail"

Lol

Not what I was referring to but hey if it works it works.

People that sell tweak should be lobotomized. Then all we have to do is feed them daily and leave them in a small room.

people that are too scared to try drugs because they are illegal will be to scared to try them if they are legal. or too educated/ intelligent. and its all about the education and rejuvenating and reinvesting in shitty areas with money they are currently wasting on an inneffective drugs strategy.

You don't think increasing the supply and making it easier for people to obtain the drugs will lead to an increase in use?

nope make it like alcohol - 18 or 21 to buy it and then use the cash made for healthcare and education.

all the bad shit will go the way of tobacco with use declining through education and the fact society frowns upon smackhead wasters.

i dont see the fact something is illegal as relevant in whether or not somebody is gonna take something. most people can get hold of most drugs pretty easy once you hit high school and the legality of it was never a factor in my decision to try anything.

i avoided heroin not because it wasnt available but because everyone knows how easy it is to get fucked up on it. i tried most other things. and for most people it is just an experimentation phase which they go through.

the fact that there are people locked away for 10 years at a time for getting caught with basically personal amounts is fucked up and a waste of resources.

also whats the alternative? continue throwing vast amounts of money and resources at a supposed solution that has no affect on supply. you see all these busts on tv where theres hundreds of kilos and it makes no fucking difference if you wanna go and buy something. they will never win so why not try a different strategy?

the aim is to reduce the harm inflicted on society by drug misuse

so you regulate it like alcohol except for heavy shit you gotta sign for it and then the gov is pretty much aware of who is taking what so kids can be removed from wasters.

if they go nuts on something put em in jail like any other violent offender

as if the us govt doesnt have a hand in the illegal drug trade as it is

theyre the biggest drug dealers ever

BTJ you make good points. I find it hard to argue against you. While I don't support what you're saying you make a good case for it.

well at least here in Alberta anything under 30 grams is usually only a fine. same with schedule 3 drugs such as mushrooms and lsd. however cocaine or heroin or anyother schedule 2 drugs will get you fucking owned.

we get attempted manslaughter for shrooms or lsd out here

Good posting by BTJ.

I agree completely. Showtime has had a documentary on recently where they even show Rogan, but it chronicles the history of the drug war, and all the fucked up shit along the way. Rick Ross and tons of other shit is covered. They even show Rogan at his cannabis club.

yes, btj makes some good points. they will never legalize it tho.

they (gov't) would lose too much revenue, and the loss of jobs of the dea and state task forces would be major.

tis a religious issue as well. hell, "God" gave it to us, didn't he!?! didn't he?

cocain is some gawd awsome shit, but u gotta know what u can do. same concept. the coca plant has tons of medicinal purposes. so does weed.

yes, btj makes some good points. they will never legalize it tho.

they (gov't) would lose too much revenue, and the loss of jobs of the dea and state task forces would be major.

tis a religious issue as well. hell, "God" gave it to us, didn't he!?! didn't he?

cocain is some gawd awsome shit, but u gotta know what u can do. same concept. the coca plant has tons of medicinal purposes. so does weed.

I'm not disputing this claim, for I don't have sufficient knowledge to do so rationally but I'm curious what are these medicinal purposes?

I just saw this and now I understand why Marijuana is illegal.

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funny.

If it was legalized it would kill my business.

I'm not disputing this claim, for I don't have sufficient knowledge to do so rationally but I'm curious what are these medicinal purposes?

cocaine; an anesthetic...novacaine, xylocaine, they numb

MJ; helps lots of cancer patients and folks with glaucoma

With medical marijuana they can use it's benefits and still make bank off the fact it's illegal and so widely used.

cocaine; an anesthetic...novacaine, xylocaine, they numb



Egyptians used to chew on the coca leaves to relieve tooth pain.

Egyptians used to chew on the coca leaves to relieve tooth pain.

i saw a documentary once; they showed some people so old, it was a miracle they were still alive...they'd chewed the leaves all their lives.

they use coca leaves for altitude and energy.

I doubt coca plants have enough "active ingredient" to do any serious damage by only chewing their leaves.

cocaine; an anesthetic...novacaine, xylocaine, they numb

MJ; helps lots of cancer patients and folks with glaucoma

I was wondering about the marijuana. How does it help with cancer and glaucoma? For Pain? They too pussy to man up? What's wrong with opiates if it's that bad?

I doubt coca plants have enough "active ingredient" to do any serious damage by only chewing their leaves.

that's why we extract it to make nose candy.

legalize it don't criticize it.

legalize it don't criticize it.

If you want to smoke weed all day just move to Canada.

If you want to smoke weed all day just move to Canada.

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Benifits of medicinal marijuana?

1. Pain Relief
2. Euphoria
3. Highly increased appitite (this one is almost ALWAYS cited)
4. Air Guitar

I was wondering about the marijuana. How does it help with cancer and glaucoma? For Pain? They too pussy to man up? What's wrong with opiates if it's that bad?

i honestly don't know about the glaucoma, rob, but it helps the cancer patients have an appetite or curb nausea so that they feel like eating.

a b-12 shot can do the same.

no not really.

Pfft no drugs will stop serve chemotherapy induced nausea.

i dunno i will say anything against pot. i just had a discussion with someone telling me that smoking good pot without paper or blunt will cause my alveoli to open up more thus giving me better cardio. can someone prove to me this is true or this is straight pothead talk?
honestly i have nothing against pot smokers but the claim that pot is the cure all for everything is ridiculous.

i dunno i will say anything against pot. i just had a discussion with someone telling me that smoking good pot without paper or blunt will cause my alveoli to open up more thus giving me better cardio. can someone prove to me this is true or this is straight pothead talk?
honestly i have nothing against pot smokers but the claim that pot is the cure all for everything is ridiculous.

QFT +1

I just saw this and now I understand why Marijuana is illegal.

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ahahaha fucking funny shit

i dunno i will say anything against pot. i just had a discussion with someone telling me that smoking good pot without paper or blunt will cause my alveoli to open up more thus giving me better cardio. can someone prove to me this is true or this is straight pothead talk?
honestly i have nothing against pot smokers but the claim that pot is the cure all for everything is ridiculous.

have a trophy!

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Pot will never be legal because the government likes to take all our money.

cocaine; an anesthetic...novacaine, xylocaine, they numb



Cocaine isn't actually used in xylocaine (lidocaine) but rather xylocaine is added to some cocaine to increase its numbing effect to create an illusion of quality cocaine.

Cocaine was used as a anaesthetic before novocaine and xylocaine were introduced, but now that we have these substances why would we resort to using cocaine?

why would we resort to using cocaine?

because it's the American way.

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So the reason is because it's the stupid thing to do?

war naturalasasaaasshimitsu

So the reason is because it's the stupid thing to do?

Stupid, and power hungry.

I was wondering about the marijuana. How does it help with cancer and glaucoma? For Pain? They too pussy to man up? What's wrong with opiates if it's that bad?

my grandma has glaucoma and she was offered a persription but refused. i asked her how it helps she said, " glaucoma makes alot of pressure build in your eyes, the pot reduces the pressure."

my grandma has glaucoma and she was offered a persription but refused. i asked her how it helps she said, " glaucoma makes alot of pressure build in your eyes, the pot reduces the pressure."

That's very interesting I wasn't sure how it helped glaucoma at all.

That's very interesting I wasn't sure how it helped glaucoma at all.

i think thats all it does im not 100% tho