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Resin
03-11-2008, 05:31 AM
Prophecies and oracles from around the world point to December 21, 2012 as doomsday.



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GiantRobotDelux
03-11-2008, 08:58 AM
If Terrence McKenna AND Jesus are down, then I'm down.

MajorDiarrhea
03-14-2008, 04:27 PM
Just in case i have a nice little spot im going to be at when it does happen and hopefully i can score some weed to smoke while im there.

elgee
03-14-2008, 04:54 PM
thats my birthday.

Resin
03-14-2008, 09:10 PM
wow elgee

bigbadroy
03-14-2008, 11:24 PM
thats my birthday.

hahahahaha

pokey
03-15-2008, 12:16 AM
i think the mayans just didnt finish their sculpture

headwound
03-15-2008, 04:45 PM
http://aphroditeastrology.com/2007/11/2012.html some more reading on the subject

kermitthefrayer
03-15-2008, 05:30 PM
I can tell everyone with some certainty it doesn't matter if this is a snake god op or some real shit but something major will go down in Dec of 2012.

pokey
03-15-2008, 09:50 PM
I can tell everyone with some certainty it doesn't matter if this is a snake god op or some real shit but something major will go down in Dec of 2012.

i agree, i think it will all be a product of fear, like y2k. mass panic, people just going nuts untill they see nothing happens, a self fulfilling profacy. imo at least

whats your take on it

Gumshoe
03-16-2008, 05:41 AM
fedor vs randy that date, dana is a smart man with the promotions

yousayunclenow
03-16-2008, 09:02 AM
i think the mayans just didnt finish their sculpture

Heh ya

Lord Krishna
03-16-2008, 01:07 PM
2008 is supposed to be the start of the third world war, according to on prophecy the summer olympics will never happen

Leftcard
03-17-2008, 07:13 AM
Damn, guess imma just smoke as much cigarettes i can.

yousayunclenow
03-17-2008, 12:05 PM
2008 is supposed to be the start of the third world war, according to on prophecy the summer olympics will never happen

Nostradamus > John Titor

YouSlayMe
03-25-2008, 01:03 AM
Nostradamus > John Titor

a documentary of nostradamus, "the man who saw tomorrow", talks bout lots of his prophecies. he predicted hitler (hister is who he referred to) and many others, like napoleon. there's also a documentary aired in october about one of his lost books. i plan to check into this at some point...

perhpas, before 12/21/12.

i can accept there is some significance in those numbers, but we will find out at last by 12/22/12. maybe.

Jim
03-30-2008, 06:28 AM
i dont believe any of it.

Victorious
04-21-2008, 06:32 PM
Have you guys ever looked at all the shit Nostradamus said? So much shit he said did not even happen and alot of his shit is vague as fuck. It is like me saying right now "In years to come, a man will almost rule the world by killing others he doesn't like." Then that happening and everyone praises me...

IMAMEX
04-22-2008, 09:29 PM
I can tell everyone with some certainty it doesn't matter if this is a snake god op or some real shit but something major will go down in Dec of 2012.

yup that's pretty much how I see it going. Hopefully something cool happens and it doesn't end up with some dumb asses forcing the trip.

VENDO
04-28-2008, 09:55 AM
a documentary of nostradamus, "the man who saw tomorrow", talks bout lots of his prophecies. he predicted hitler (hister is who he referred to) and many others, like napoleon. there's also a documentary aired in october about one of his lost books. i plan to check into this at some point...

perhpas, before 12/21/12.

i can accept there is some significance in those numbers, but we will find out at last by 12/22/12. maybe.



Natgeo talked about nostra bullshit.

and now I think nostra is full of shit after watching that "is it real?" show.
what bullcrap.

YouSlayMe
04-28-2008, 04:06 PM
Natgeo talked about nostra bullshit.

and now I think nostra is full of shit after watching that "is it real?" show.
what bullcrap.

i haven't seen the "is it real" show, but like victorious says, he did predict lots of shit that never took place. fucking prophets, my ass - what good are they if they're not right all the time?!?

ZiLLa
04-28-2008, 05:17 PM
It will not be doomsday...It will be the day that time travel will be invented.

YouSlayMe
04-28-2008, 06:23 PM
It will not be doomsday...It will be the day that time travel will be invented.

beam me up, scottie...

:sifone:

jetjaguar
04-28-2008, 06:50 PM
http://glennkenny.premiere.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/10/criswell.jpg

Criswell's Predictions

Throughout the '60s, Criswell claimed to have predicted everything from the deaths of Jayne Mansfield and Martin Luther King to the gubernatorial election of Ronald Reagan.

In 1968, his first book, Criswell Predicts, detailed future world's leaders, technology, wars, and of course the end of the world. An interesting read, you can still find this book occasionally on eBay.com and on amazon.com.

Below are just a few examples from this book. Some may leave you wondering - 'How did I miss that'? I leave it up to you the reader to determine if Criswell was right, wrong or just misinterpreted. Enjoy....
Homosexual Cities (p. 13)

I predict that perversion will flood the land beginning in 1970. I predict a series of homosexual cities, small, compact, carefully planned areas, will soon be blatantly advertised and exist from coast to coast. These compact communities will be complete with stores, churches, bars and restaurants which will put the olden Greeks or Romans to shame with their organized orgies. You will be able to find them near Boston, Des Moines, Columbus, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, St. Louis, New Orleans, Dallas, and Miami.

Much thought and planning will be expended in setting up these communities where perversion will parade shamelessly. And all this will be within the law because the perverted will claim they have been discriminated against. The Supreme Court will rule that whatever these consenting adult males, or females, wish to do, they can!
Space Stations (p. 16)

The U.S. and Russia will, separately and jointly, during the 1970s begin to set up space stations. Progress will be slow until the late 1970s when discovery of antimagnetic forces will free man from the laws of gravity and make space travel without rocket propulsion possible.

I predict that man's exploration of space and the building of space stations will be the salvation of the human race.

By 1999 there will be more than 200 of these space stations in existence. They will house entire colonies—men, women, and children.

When the earth is destroyed on August 18, 1999, these space colonists will be the only Earth-humans left in the Universe.
Mother Earth (p. 18)

Can our whirling, turning, churning earth last out the night? Our geologists tell us that the danger to Mother Earth lies not in the uncharted vast of outer space, but from inner-earth! ... Here is what will more than likely happen according to geologists: Small tidal waves will play havoc for no reason at all. The surface of the earth will bulge ever so slightly and highways will slightly buckle. Foundations will tip, and floors will slant. When you pour a cup of coffee or a glass of water, the rim will not level. Telephone coin boxes and vending machines will refuse to work. Delicate instruments will go haywire. Elevators will go out of whack. Jukeboxes will be mute. Radio and TV will fail. All electric power, gas and water service will cease. And then will come the time when garbage cans roll across the street for no apparent reason. Then and only then will you realize the advanced corrosion spelling the end of our Earth. The seas will quickly fill up with a gooey mass of inner-earth rubble. Our streets and city lots, farms, and deserts will bubble up like a festered oil, marking the complete collapse. Has this happened before? More than likely. And it will again happen in your incredible future.
Television Education (p. 19)

I predict education will be given to children through the television screen, no personal teachers, but there will be a warden on duty to see that one hundred percent interest is sustained. Later, education-memory pills will help give you all of the education you can possibly use.
Aphrodisiacal Era (p. 21)

I predict that our own United States will in the future be swept by the popular clouds of an aphrodisiacal fragrance. ... This aroma will fill every man and woman who inhales it with uncontrolled passion. It will be sold at first "underground" like LSD or STP today. But it will soon become easily available. ...

I predict that the sex urge will advance rapidly and many men will flagrantly expose themselves in public. Grandfathers will be accused of seducing their granddaughters and uncles will be jailed under similar crimes. Women will begin to think more of their appearance and they will have new hair styles, more attractive clothing and will use more cosmetics than ever before. [T]he driving sex urge will eventually cause orgies even greater than those of decadent Rome during the reign of the unmentionable Caesars. ... In Los Angeles, California, particularly Hollywood, sex acts will be performed openly, unashamedly on the streets. I predict that this will be difficult to control, for even the members of the law enforcement agencies will be dominated by the powerful cloud of aphrodisiac. Many cases of incest will be reported.

I predict a wealthy San Francisco attorney will announce his marriage to his mother and a Hollywood producer will openly declare his daughter is going to bear his child, and a young man in Arkansas will ask to be legally wed to his pet cat. ...

Date of the aphrodisiacal era: May 1, 1988, to March 30, 1989.
The Destruction Of Denver, Colorado (p. 29)

I predict that this catastrophe will take place during the tourist season and the fun-loving people in the amusement zone will suddenly find their day of pleasure turned into one of horror. A roller coaster will rise and sway, throwing cars and occupants to the ground below. A Ferris wheel will collapse and carry many children to untimely deaths. A penny arcade will become a dungeon of doom, a canopy of a merry-go-round will plunge down upon its most innocent riders. I predict only silence will reign where there was once laughter and gaiety. The citizenry of this Colorado city will find themselves enveloped in a jelly-like substance that was once brick, concrete, steel and lumber. They will be unable to escape for it will be impossible to cut through or tear this substance. Although soft and pliable it will still retain the strength and weight formerly possessed. I predict in the outskirts the conditions will not be as serious but fleeing people will find themselves mired in roadways and hardly able to move.

I predict that scientists from all over the world will be called upon to help but no one will be able to offer relief for they will not be able to conquer this terrible force, this mysterious force from outer space. Gradually, as conditions ease survivors will be evacuated but this will become a dead city and will never again be reborn. I predict this unfortunate community will be a victim of elements beyond our control and will always be remembered until the end of time. I predict the name of the city will be Denver, Colorado. The date: June 9, 1989.
Castro Assassination (p. 31)

I predict the assassination of Fidel Castro by a woman, on August 9, 1970.
American Tragedy (p. 31)

I predict that tragedy will once again strike one of America's best known families, shortly after its most widely loved member has remarried. Her remarriage will be a mistake.
The Great Drought And Flood (p. 41)

I predict that in the year 1977 the face of the earth will be completely changed. Rain will not fall for a period of ten months. I predict that our great lakes will become beds of sand and rivers will slow down to a trickle. ... The results of this drought will be catastrophic. I predict starvation, disease, insanity and death on an unprecedented scale. Hospitals will be overburdened and the death rate will be so high that the dead will remain unburied for weeks at a time. This will be known as the era of the black death, the twentieth-century black death. I predict that New York City will become a ghost town with industry at a standstill, for power will go dead, subways will be emptied and out of service, and the entire transportation system of this once steaming metropolis will be totally crippled. The populace will leave by the thousands in their search for water. The nation's highways will be filled with helpless, struggling people.

In the great Midwest, I predict that the dust bowl of Kansas will be the death trap for countless humans and animals. Farms, fields and homesteads will be covered by mountains of sand and dust and no form of life can exist.
Ronald Reagan (p. 53)

I predict that Ronald Reagan will not seek reelection as Governor of California.
Septuplets (p. 57)

I predict that a set of septuplets, all boys, will be born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on January 19, 1973. All will live—the first such case in history.
Interplanetary (p. 57)

Las Vegas, Nevada, March 10, 1990: The very first Interplanetary Convention will be held in the new Convention Center on the famed Strip with colony citizens of Mars, Venus, Neptune and the Moon in full representation; Governor Sawyer will make the opening welcome address.
Meteor Destroys London: 1988 (p. 79)

London, England, will be the target of this heartless killer from outer space. The meteor will strike in a heavily populated sector of London and will hit with unprecedented force, rocking the earth for hundreds of miles and slightly shifting the position of the earth. Shocks will be felt as far away as Paris, Lisbon, Denmark, Australia, India, China, South Africa, South America, and Washington, D.C. I predict that the once proud city of London will be a tomb of death. Entire slum areas will be completely wiped out. Date: October 18, 1988.
Kansas (p. 94)

I predict that Kansas will become the most important state in the United States, due to the moving of the Federal capital from Washington, D.C., to Wichita. The broad plains and prairies will be a roof above multi-story government buildings, constructed wholly underground. The largest airports in the world will be constructed in Kansas to serve the needs of the new capital of the United States.
Rhode Island (p. 105)

I predict that Rhode Island will be the center of a new movement of the youth of the nation that will make the hippie movement look normal. The next movement will be youth's rebellion through nudism. And this movement will begin in Rhode Island and spread throughout the land.
South Dakota (p. 105)

I predict that South Dakota will become the first state to legalize prostitution and the sale of marijuana. I predict that a group of ruthless men will control the state government of South Dakota in the late 1970s and their open traffic in prostitution and drugs will cause repercussions throughout the country.
Vermont (p. 107)

I predict that on February 11, 1981, there will be an abortive attempt by a foreign power to bomb the United States with atomic missiles. Most of the missiles will be destroyed by anti-missile missiles, but several will be only driven off course and will drop on the helpless state of Vermont. The death toll on that date will exceed 50,000 persons.
New York City And The Shifting Coastline (p. 112)

New York will not exist as we know it today after January 21, 1980. Shifting ocean currents and earth tremors will begin to remake the eastern coast of the United States beginning in 1971. At first the changes will be small, but within three years our geologists will know what is happening. As the coast-line shifts, the land will sink and the ocean will pour inland. Before 1978, Long Island will be mostly underwater. Only the areas that can be protected by hastily erected dikes will escape—and they, not for long. Manhattan will become a city of canals, like Venice. Billions of dollars will be spent to save New York, but by 1980, all efforts will have failed and a new New York will rise, further inland, at a great expense.
Men Become Cannibals (p. 115)

I predict an outburst of cannibalism that will terrorize the population of one of the industrial cites in the state of Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh. Mass mournings will be held for the victims. A smile will be unknown. The fate of this city of Pittsburgh will never be forgotten... Date: November 28 to December 21, 1980.
John F. Kennedy, Jr. (p. 118)

I predict that John F. Kennedy Jr. will serve the state of Massachusetts as a U.S. Senator but will not seek the presidency of the United States.

The End of the World

The end of the world, it is written in Criswell Predicts, will take place Wednesday, Aug. 18, 1999. That day, every point on earth will be covered by a black rainbow—not just any black rainbow, mind you, but "a jet-black rainbow; an ebony rainbow; a black rainbow which will signify the coming suffocation of our world. This black rainbow will seemingly bring about, through some mysterious force beyond our comprehension, a lack of oxygen. It will draw the oxygen from our atmosphere, as a huge snake encircling the world and feeding upon the oxygen which we need to exist. Hour after hour, it will grow worse. And we will grow weaker. It is through this that we will be so weakened that when the final end arrives, we will go silently, we will go gasping for breath, and then there will be only silence on the earth."

VENDO
04-29-2008, 03:31 AM
see??^^^
bullshit.

ko king
04-29-2008, 07:12 PM
we are all going to die..............

YouFrgotPoland
06-21-2008, 10:30 AM
So does anyone believe in this stuff? I have been aware of it for a while, but tonight I got into some serious discussion about it with some friends. We looked some stuff up and got pretty into it tonight, so I thought I'd get some more opinions here.

I'm tending to agree with what don was saying about it being a self fulfilling prophecy. Although some of the other things tied into the idea are pretty interesting.

Resin
06-21-2008, 12:10 PM
a lot of things are coming together so i do believe in some of the things that might possibly happen.

Jim
06-21-2008, 01:48 PM
i probably be 6 feet under by then so it doesnt matter

VENDO
06-22-2008, 07:24 AM
Watch penn and teller bullshit.

ferg
06-23-2008, 12:51 AM
it's a load of BS. i like how this "documentary" tells you all these things that "prophets" predicted to make you believe, but they just tell you their interpretation of what they predicted rather than the actual texts.

it gets good ratings. the only real phophets are those that have been inspired by God, rather than underground gas leaks. and those are few and far between. i will laugh at everybody who believed this shit on dec. 22, 2012. that is, if we're still alive by then... i wouldn't be too terribly surprised if there is full scale nuclear war by then.

VENDO
06-23-2008, 02:19 AM
it's just people try to bank off the guillible.

the end of the world is every ten or so years apparently.
Thank god some people aren't guillible.

Aussie
06-23-2008, 05:05 AM
man its gonna suck when when we go to war against china "dem nigga's is crazy", i have already stockpiled my weapons and have devised some plans, atm i have my compound bow, and 5 katana's , a battle hammer , i will live in the forrest and bring down the chinese invasion of australia single handedly

Aussie
06-23-2008, 05:08 AM
its gonna be hectic, they will infiltrate us 1st by inspiring the already chinese-australian population to rise up and wage gorrilla warfare than nuck our ass's, i will survive by eating possums and kangaroo's

Aussie
06-23-2008, 05:08 AM
i throw a fucking boomerang at the next chinaman i see

Aussie
06-23-2008, 05:11 AM
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=95159&rendTypeId=4

while hiding in the bush i will create an army of aboriginals to rise up against the chinaman , i have used a simple formula to determine our success
blacks > whites > yellows

YouSlayMe
06-24-2008, 05:28 PM
its gonna be hectic, they will infiltrate us 1st by inspiring the already chinese-australian population to rise up and wage gorrilla warfare than nuck our ass's, i will survive by eating possums and kangaroo's

aussie, sounds like you've got it all under control. but if the nuking takes place, i understand armadillos and cockroaches will survive that holocaust. so, if you manage to survive the nuking, you will have food.

:popcorn:

abelinkinyang
07-04-2008, 11:15 PM
I think when shit becomes mainstream it's fake.

jetjaguar
07-04-2008, 11:37 PM
Watch penn and teller bullshit.
I think these guys are great

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Puppet_Master
07-05-2008, 07:38 AM
http://2012rising.com/2012

2012 & The Consciousness Singularity

If you have not yet encountered any of the information related to this particular year amongst counterculture web pages, books and radio shows, it is worth taking a quick look at the background data. This introduction to the subject will have to be necessarily brief in scope, as there is simply far too much for any one person to convey or for that matter absorb, in a single sitting. The basis of the interest in the year 2012 is in the closing of a great cycle within the Mayan calendar system. The ancient Mayan people of Central America kept the most complex calendar system in the known world. In all they had some 17 different calendars running in unison. The best way to visualize this is as a number of interlocking cogs of various sizes grinding against each other, thus days had a number of component parts. Of course we have an element of these process ourselves within our simpler Gregorian calendar, seven named days, up to 31 numbered days meshing with 12 named months as years pass.

Each calendar related information on schedules for tasks or events such as seed planting, religious rites, eclipse’s, mystical predictions and other happenings seen as cyclical in nature. The calendar that most concerns us here is the 13-Baktun or ‘Long Count' system which runs for just over 5125 years, its start and end set by the originators long, long ago. Who exactly set this calendar turning is not known, however it started on 11-08-3114 BCE and is set to complete on the winter solstice of 2012. The most glaring anomaly here is that the calendar does not start from anywhere near the time of its apparent introduction to the Mayan people, they are very clear on the fact that that thousands of years of the great cycle passed before their particular description of its mechanics. Available evidence tends to suggest they inherited the Long Count from more ancient peoples of Central America , likely the Toltec’s and Olmec. Even so, this still does not take us back to anywhere near five thousand years ago.

There are a number of reasons why modern scholars are fascinated by the Mayan people and their amazing calendar systems. It’s important to note that mainstream researchers and those in the counterculture often do not agree on what is most important about this time measuring system. Some aspects however, are considered important by both camps. To better introduce the Mayan people themselves I have used the information of an academic authority on the Maya civilisation, Professor Michael D. Coe. His description of the 'historical Maya' peoples is only summarized here, however his books can be found in your local library or online for the full story.

The ancient Maya people were residents of the Yucatan peninsula, Guatemala , Belize and some parts of Mexico , El Salvador and Honduras. Their civilization rose to prominence in approx. 250AD and receded/collapsed in around 900AD. Before that was the pre-classic period going back to around 2000BC in which they developed a farming culture. The classic period saw the building of some of the most astounding structures in South America including those at sites such as Copan, Palenque, Chich'en Itza and the palace of Xpuhil .

They adopted, and radically advanced, the calendar systems already existing from earlier cultures in the South America 's and took astronomical understanding to a very high level. They were aware of both the solar and tropical year, though seemed happy to go with a 365 day 'vague' year, which slowly shifted due to the extra time ignored. They were however extremely concerned with keeping the lunar month accurate, calculating it to be 29.53020 days long, we now know it is actually 29.53059. For Venus they used a 584 day calendar system, we now know it is 583.92. They also seem to have arrived close to both the years of Mars and Mercury, with their figures of 780 and 116 days respectively.

Maya technology and wisdom was also applied to the arts, they managed to create some of the most amazing works of carving that we know of. The working of hard volcanic stone and gems was nothing less than incredible. Their artists often bored holes in tiny jade beads that were so precise and slim; we today would have to use our most advanced facilities to match them.

The Maya people had a complex spiritual hierarchy of Gods and metaphysical beings. Their rich cosmology, mythology and religious doctrines are absorbing and fascinating. Most notable is the God-Man known as Quetzalcoatl, whom is often discussed in relation to 2012 lore. They perceived time to be cyclical, rather than linear like us. Cosmic order was viewed from a cause and effect perspective, but included causes originating in unseen higher realms, this related to their view that all things are interconnected whether physical or metaphysical.

When a people clearly obsessed with cyclical events, known for pinpoint accuracy, adopt a calendar as enormous in scope as the 13-Baktun most scholars conclude they would only do so if it tracked something particularly important to their civilization. The Mayans themselves have said that the 5125-year period encompasses a single world age and that such world ages are prone to ending with environmental disasters. They have also said that in their spiritual belief system the end of a world age is a time of great opportunity. Each time this occurs humanity will choose to either move into a new more harmonious age, or face an apocalyptic catastrophe. Thus far mankind has experienced four catastrophic events that they recall in their mythology and was largely obliterated by floods, fire, wind and earthquakes.

There is also evidence that the 21-12-2012 date was considered important to various other ancient peoples from the Americas and further a field in places such as Sumer , China and Egypt . Certainly many modern indigenous American peoples agree with the Mayans, most notably the Hopi Indians, but tribes from the furthest regions of the Amazon jungles in the South to the frozen wastes of the Canadian North also concur. In Egypt we find that the pyramids of the Giza plateau seem to have been set in such a way as to provide both a time marker and an optimum viewing platform for the astronomical phenomena associated with the winter solstice of 2012. On that day the milky way will seem to rise horizontal to the Nile on the ground, whilst Orion’s belt will align with the three major pyramids, revealing the old axiom, ’as above so below’. Additionally the sun will rise up into the position of alignment with the centre of our milk way galaxy, whilst Venus will switch to its morning star phase in its cycle. Some Egyptian mythology states that this event marks the birth of a new age via the 'channel of the ages' from the centre of our cosmos, a location linked with their concept of Ma’at, or that which brings order from chaos in the universe.

During the 1970’s the McKenna brothers investigated the possibility that the ancient Chinese divinatory system, the I-Ching, had originated as an ancient Chinese calendar. They used a Mandelbrot fractal set system to investigate this possibility, and surprisingly the overlay revealed a pattern within the ever diminishing numeric flow. The pattern discovered seemed to mesh well with the 13-month lunar calendar, precession of the equinox, sun spot cycles and recorded major events in human evolution. Although perhaps not conclusive, their findings are suggestive of a calendar system not wholly unlike that of the Mayans being present. It is important to note that their work was done prior to any talk of the Mayan calendar.


What are the physical & meta-physical happenings associated with the year 2012?


The year 2012 has come to serve as a hub, nexus and strange attractor for myriad types of information, predictions, phenomena and events over the last decade or so. The entire period between the early 1990’s and onward to the early 2020’s is almost as important to look at. Unlike the talk surrounding Y2K this is not a one day event subject; most people are not expecting much of note other than certain astronomical occurrences to happen on the 21st of December in 2012, no sudden end of the world. Rather the date is regarded as a spectral portal through which human consciousness itself will pass, and be weighed in its worth, much like the ancient Egyptian belief that men’s souls were weighed on the scales of the Gods, so as to assign them to their correct afterlife.

This period of some two decades or more has been categorized by some of the indigenous elders of tribes such as the Mayans, as the 'speeding up', or 'quickening'. This is so labelled because our perception of events will change, things will seem to happen exponentially faster as time itself spirals into smaller and smaller loops before entering the 2012 singularity. It is also held that in this temporal bottleneck past and future will be constantly in flux, ancient phenomena and future phenomena manifesting alongside those of the modern day. Alogside this timeslip, will be a polarizing of forces with a swelling of interest in compassionate spiritual living, met by a diametrically opposed rise in aggression and greed.

Some of the more often discussed esoteric subjects in relation to this period are the birth on the planet of a generation of highly advanced spiritual beings, currently commonly labelled as Indigo Children, and a massive increase in the occurrence of both psychic abilities and supernatural phenomena. Other subjects being expounded within the 2012 counterculture are the possible arrival of aliens, or some kind of biblical ascension in which 'spiritually pure' persons will pass into higher realms of existence, or indeed walk into the Christian heaven.

The plethora of 2012 information souces also deal with the manifold physical happenings associated with the predicted changes. This includes a great number of disaster level Earth events, as well as radical changes in how human society functions globally both in political and social terms. Most of the related books, web-sites, and radio shows seemingly agree that the period in which 2012 serves as a hub will include many painful happenings. The phrase that perhaps best sums up this mode of thinking would be, “you can’t make an omelette without breaking any eggs”.

Seemingly when new ages of existence are being born it is much akin to a human birth, plenty of pain and suffering pre-empt the moment of joy and relief when the act is complete and all is found to be well. There are a number of both earthly and cosmic disaster scenarios discussed in relation to this time. These include, but are certainly not limited to; mega-tsunami, super-volcanoes, mega-quakes, massive solar flares, super-storms, biosphere collapse, colossal meteor impacts, magnetic & geological pole reversals, earth crust displacement, encounters with an ‘X’ planet or large-scale terrestrial and extra-terrestrial warfare. Each scenario has a wealth of evidence behind it, though it quickly becomes clear that some are far more unlikely than others.




Important points to emphasize:

1. Despite much of what is being said on the internet currently 21-12-2012 is not a doomsday.


2. If nothing other than certain astronomical events happen on the date this does not quash the subject as the date is merely a hub.


3. Much of what is being discussed in relation to the subject is in no way sanctioned by the actual indigenous Mayan people.


4. Practically every form of supernatural, spiritual, and esoteric phenomena is in some way now linked to the 2012 subject.


5. Nobody is 100% sure about the true meaning of the 2012 data and about what we should do, where we should be or what will happen!

Bloodshot
07-05-2008, 07:40 AM
Isaac Newton predicted 2060.

Aussie
07-06-2008, 06:10 AM
Isaac Newton predicted 2060.

yeah but if you take 48 away from 2060 you get 2012

48 is the age he lost his virginity see the connection