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kronker 03-10-2008, 10:16 PM Vatican lists "new sins," including pollution
Philip Pullella, Reuters
Published: Monday, March 10, 2008
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Thou shall not pollute the Earth. Thou shall beware genetic manipulation. Modern times bring with them modern sins. So the Vatican has told the faithful that they should be aware of "new" sins such as causing environmental blight.
The guidance came at the weekend when Archbishop Gianfranco Girotti, the Vatican's number two man in the sometimes murky area of sins and penance, spoke of modern evils.
Asked what he believed were today's "new sins," he told the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano that the greatest danger zone for the modern soul was the largely uncharted world of bioethics.
A faithful holds the cross during a mass at a Catholic church on the outskirts of Changzhi, Shanxi province December 23, 2007. The Vatican has told the faithful that they should be aware of "new" sins such as causing environmental blight. REUTERS/StringerView Larger Image View Larger Image
A faithful holds the cross during a mass at a Catholic church on the outskirts of Changzhi, Shanxi province December 23, 2007. The Vatican has told the faithful that they should be aware of "new" sins such as causing environmental blight. REUTERS/Stringer
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"(Within bioethics) there are areas where we absolutely must denounce some violations of the fundamental rights of human nature through experiments and genetic manipulation whose outcome is difficult to predict and control," he said.
The Vatican opposes stem cell research that involves destruction of embryos and has warned against the prospect of human cloning.
Girotti, in an interview headlined "New Forms of Social Sin," also listed "ecological" offences as modern evils.
In recent months, Pope Benedict has made several strong appeals for the protection of the environment, saying issues such as climate change had become gravely important for the entire human race.
Under Benedict and his predecessor John Paul, the Vatican has become progressively "green."
It has installed photovoltaic cells on buildings to produce electricity and hosted a scientific conference to discuss the ramifications of global warming and climate change, widely blamed on human use of fossil fuels.
Girotti, who is number two in the Vatican "Apostolic Penitentiary," which deals with matter of conscience, also listed drug trafficking and social and economic injustices as modern sins.
But Girotti also bemoaned that fewer and fewer Catholics go to confession at all.
He pointed to a study by Milan's Catholic University that showed that up to 60 percent of Catholic faithful in Italy stopped going to confession.
In the sacrament of Penance, Catholics confess their sins to a priest who absolves them in God's name.
But the same study by the Catholic University showed that 30 percent of Italian Catholics believed that there was no need for a priest to be God's intermediary and 20 percent felt uncomfortable talking about their sins to another person.
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kronker 03-10-2008, 10:18 PM The real question is, how many times has this happened in the past? Who says God really told anyone what the sins were? Maybe random Vatican establishments just created them slowly over history.
New sins:
-obesity
-backwards hats
-driving an automobile
-wearing a thong
-being on a VH1 reality tv show
Thomas Ace 03-10-2008, 10:28 PM The real question is, how many times has this happened in the past? Who says God really told anyone what the sins were? Maybe random Vatican establishments just created them slowly over history.
New sins:
-obesity
-backwards hats
-driving an automobile
-wearing a thong
-being on a VH1 reality tv show
If i didn't personally know you, I would swear to God you were an Alien. I thought I'd seen it all... and you hit me with this.
Chickenjorge 03-10-2008, 10:30 PM this is stupid.
only shows how religion works as a conscience.
Thomas Ace 03-10-2008, 10:55 PM this is stupid.
only shows how religion works as a conscience.
I think it's a good head's up for when I'm walking down the street and some old people rip out there Rosary and start chanting at me in some language I don't understand. Now I'll know it's cause I'm fat.
kermitthefrayer 03-10-2008, 11:10 PM Would you like fries with your NEW WORLD ORDER?
kermitthefrayer 03-10-2008, 11:12 PM They create all theses fucking problems call them sins and then expect no blame bunch of shit!
They have more money than any other organization in the world...
GiantRobotDelux 03-11-2008, 06:49 AM Why doesn't the Vatican use its infinite wealth and unfluence to do something? Instead of telling people what they are doing is "wrong".
lancaster 03-11-2008, 07:54 AM Why doesn't the Vatican use its infinite wealth and unfluence to do something? Instead of telling people what they are doing is "wrong".
Because telling people that what they are doing is "wrong" is how they got their infinite wealth and influence in the first place.
ninjashoes 03-13-2008, 08:36 AM their opinion will change when I clone jesus
GiantRobotDelux 03-13-2008, 08:50 AM Because telling people that what they are doing is "wrong" is how they got their infinite wealth and influence in the first place.
Word up. It was hypothetical.
their opinion will change when I clone jesus
also, as true as the first quote.
xcept68 03-14-2008, 07:08 PM Yeah, this type of thing already happened in the past consistently. Religion can be a very bad thing. Jesus came to tear down religion. He turned over the money changers at the church. Because they were simply swapping one persons sheep with another saying it wasn't a good enough sacrifice, making people pay for a better sheep. There are all the laws of the sabbath, there are all the laws that were made in exodus and restrictions, some people still follow these things. Even once the church established Sunday as the sabbath in the 17th century, laws immediately came about from this. This is why Christ came to establish Himself as the church, follow the truth of Christ and not of world religion.
kronker 03-16-2008, 07:36 AM Yeah, this type of thing already happened in the past consistently. Religion can be a very bad thing. Jesus came to tear down religion. He turned over the money changers at the church. Because they were simply swapping one persons sheep with another saying it wasn't a good enough sacrifice, making people pay for a better sheep. There are all the laws of the sabbath, there are all the laws that were made in exodus and restrictions, some people still follow these things. Even once the church established Sunday as the sabbath in the 17th century, laws immediately came about from this. This is why Christ came to establish Himself as the church, follow the truth of Christ and not of world religion.
I'm surprised to read this from you.
So you're saying read the bible at home and fuck going to church and giving preachers/ministers/ and this guy
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money?
TapOut136 03-17-2008, 10:21 AM Yeah, this type of thing already happened in the past consistently. Religion can be a very bad thing. Jesus came to tear down religion. He turned over the money changers at the church. Because they were simply swapping one persons sheep with another saying it wasn't a good enough sacrifice, making people pay for a better sheep. There are all the laws of the sabbath, there are all the laws that were made in exodus and restrictions, some people still follow these things. Even once the church established Sunday as the sabbath in the 17th century, laws immediately came about from this. This is why Christ came to establish Himself as the church, follow the truth of Christ and not of world religion.
He also brought really outstanding ideas like hell (eternal torture of the dead), vicarious redemption through human sacrifice, and the joyous promise of a holy genocide.
nakedrear 03-26-2008, 05:06 PM He also brought really outstanding ideas like hell (eternal torture of the dead), vicarious redemption through human sacrifice, and the joyous promise of a holy genocide.
In all fairness to the actual historical Jesus, he didn't write the novelas about himself that are the gospels. There is such a dichotomy between the love and vengeful wrath parts that he either was historically a psycho or somebody decided they were going to put a spin on his ideas.
To be sure, I don't believe in Jesus as the son of god and all that bullcrap, but he has some sayings that are amazing and others that make you shake your head. I am for the messages of tolerance and understanding scattered among the fire and brimstone. Funniest thing is, it is so obvious that he wasn't trying to start a church or organized religion of Christianity that it is ridiculous.
YouSlayMe 03-26-2008, 06:26 PM In all fairness to the actual historical Jesus, he didn't write the novelas about himself that are the gospels. There is such a dichotomy between the love and vengeful wrath parts that he either was historically a psycho or somebody decided they were going to put a spin on his ideas.
To be sure, I don't believe in Jesus as the son of god and all that bullcrap, but he has some sayings that are amazing and others that make you shake your head. I am for the messages of tolerance and understanding scattered among the fire and brimstone. Funniest thing is, it is so obvious that he wasn't trying to start a church or organized religion of Christianity that it is ridiculous.
well said.
Lord Krishna 03-26-2008, 10:28 PM In all fairness to the actual historical Jesus, he didn't write the novelas about himself that are the gospels. There is such a dichotomy between the love and vengeful wrath parts that he either was historically a psycho or somebody decided they were going to put a spin on his ideas.
To be sure, I don't believe in Jesus as the son of god and all that bullcrap, but he has some sayings that are amazing and others that make you shake your head. I am for the messages of tolerance and understanding scattered among the fire and brimstone. Funniest thing is, it is so obvious that he wasn't trying to start a church or organized religion of Christianity that it is ridiculous.
true, jesus was not a christian, buddha was not a buddhist, mohammed was not a muslim. Masters die, leave words behind, dumb manipulative power hungry people then take those words too seriously and come up with organizd religion
xcept68 03-26-2008, 10:41 PM true, jesus was not a christian, buddha was not a buddhist, mohammed was not a muslim. Masters die, leave words behind, dumb manipulative power hungry people then take those words too seriously and come up with organizd religion
Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
pokey 03-26-2008, 10:46 PM its good to know god is still handing out comandments
Lord Krishna 03-26-2008, 10:47 PM Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
you are just mad because i have so many choices and you have to worship a faggot, no choices.
pokey 03-26-2008, 10:49 PM Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
jesus was a terrorist
Lord Krishna 03-26-2008, 10:56 PM I could never worship somebody who didnt even put up a fight against the crucifiers, got whipped like a dog. If he was really the son of god, he would have at least tried to resist the asswhooping
deegs 03-26-2008, 11:08 PM jesus had a glass jaw
Lord Krishna 03-26-2008, 11:11 PM Not to mention poor sub-defence. Cmon, who taps out to the crucifix?
deegs 03-26-2008, 11:15 PM christians are quitters!
look at the jews
Lord Krishna 03-26-2008, 11:26 PM If religion was music
Islam - hip hop
Hinduism - Glam rock
Jew - Metal
Buddhism - Psychedelic
Chirstanity - Pop
deegs 03-26-2008, 11:37 PM i'd go as far as to say j-pop
pokey 03-27-2008, 12:06 AM j-pop>>>>christianity
nakedrear 03-27-2008, 02:02 AM Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
Way to keep it objective bro. I'm sure if Jesus were around he would applaud your blanket condemnation. What's that one thing he like to say, the whole, "judge not...lest..something." I guess like many Christians I get amnesia on that part.
kronker 03-27-2008, 02:41 AM Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
See, this is not the xcept68 I like. This is the crazy xcept. Theres another xcept that posts about tolerance excetera, then theres this guy.
One of them I would tongue their prostate until they felt their brain take them to another planet of extasy, the other 'xcept' i want to punch in the face for being so blinded and retarded.
Every profit was insane/stupid/mentally ill beside my profit who is god.
kronker 03-27-2008, 02:43 AM In all fairness to the actual historical Jesus, he didn't write the novelas about himself that are the gospels. There is such a dichotomy between the love and vengeful wrath parts that he either was historically a psycho or somebody decided they were going to put a spin on his ideas.
To be sure, I don't believe in Jesus as the son of god and all that bullcrap, but he has some sayings that are amazing and others that make you shake your head. I am for the messages of tolerance and understanding scattered among the fire and brimstone. Funniest thing is, it is so obvious that he wasn't trying to start a church or organized religion of Christianity that it is ridiculous.
Great posting.
Love thy neighbour, even the 'xcept'.
What we should do is accept, xcept(its a play on words).
kronker 03-27-2008, 02:46 AM I could never worship somebody who didnt even put up a fight against the crucifiers, got whipped like a dog. If he was really the son of god, he would have at least tried to resist the asswhooping
He died for our sins. He did it on purpose. Just like he made love to that whore, knowing that in the future a man would reveal it and become a billionaire through book sales and movies sales.
It was all a plan. Jesus loves Dan Brown.
Jesus is Christ, and the followers of Christ were called Christ-ians. That's where it came from. Yes, Jesus isn't a Christian, He is God.
Mohammad was delusiona, buddha was insane... That's where it pretty much ends up. These people are in graves in the ground, and Christ is not.
Of course from your background, you have a choice of 13 million different dieties to worship. Only you seem to always pick the diety of stupidity!
an empty burial site does not = a god
man of words and a leader of followers, but a son of God?
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