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King
08-03-2006, 07:12 PM
I abandoned all religions and I am my own master now. My philosophies lie somewhat with satanism, as a religion it sux tho lol. I believe in only myself! Study Nietsche also.

ninjashoes
08-03-2006, 08:48 PM
I used to read alot of Nietsche but I later concluded he was a little weakling who let his mom boss him around and didnt back up anything he talked about in his own life.

King
08-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Yea but I still like Elton John even though he is gay lol.

ninjashoes
08-04-2006, 12:03 AM
i dont

CHE
08-04-2006, 12:18 AM
Yea but I still like Elton John even though he is gay lol.

that ruins all your credibility.


btw nietzche was insane his last 11 years of his life. his sister, who was a nazi sympathizer, editted his work in that time.

King
08-04-2006, 08:59 AM
My point exactly If people do stupid things or fail, that doesnīt mean they didnīt do something good or important in their lives. Mike Tyson was a great boxer but he was a d*ickhead fellon in his personal life. I dont consider him a good person at all, but a great athlete.

Jim
08-16-2006, 12:15 PM
My point exactly If people do stupid things or fail, that doesnīt mean they didnīt do something good or important in their lives. Mike Tyson was a great boxer but he was a d*ickhead fellon in his personal life. I dont consider him a good person at all, but a great athlete.

I fail to see what this means?It seems to say that its OK to fuck up & be an idiot, but as long as you have a talent for something then its OK.
Wasn't Neische the mad German that believed God is dead?Following the teachings of insane philosophers & Satanism isn't something I'd recommend.
Try Socrates/Plato instead.

ninjashoes
08-17-2006, 01:42 AM
Neiche revolutionized the thought process I'll give credit where its due but acting like his work is the bible is pretty depresseing I would say check out other philosiphical stuff besides a guy who died holding a donkey.

CHE
08-17-2006, 05:45 AM
God is dead - Nietzche
NietzCHE is dead - God

NietzCHE got PWND.

even tho i heavily disagree with nietzche on most things, i find alot of his work interesting, he is very intriguing to me and one of my favorite philosophers, despite being a nut.

ninjashoes
08-17-2006, 05:56 AM
yeah hes a quote machine

Jim
08-17-2006, 09:15 AM
There's been many mad genius' thruout history.
Hitler was undoubtedly a genius,he conned what is arguably the most intellectual country in the world,but was he sane?
They seemed to have a knack of writing nonsense that makes sense..
Its also much easier to be persuaded by a doctrine that appeals to your insticts,such as 'being your own master'.

King
08-17-2006, 06:11 PM
There's been many mad genius' thruout history.
Hitler was undoubtedly a genius,he conned what is arguably the most intellectual country in the world,but was he sane?
They seemed to have a knack of writing nonsense that makes sense..
Its also much easier to be persuaded by a doctrine that appeals to your insticts,such as 'being your own master'.

Iīd say Hitler wasnīt a genious at all, rather a charismatic leader with strong opinions, a knack of finding good followers and a redwood tree stuffed up his anus.

He fucked the WWII up bad, if he really would have been a genious, Germany wouldnīt have fought everybody at the same time and gotten its ass kicked.

King
08-17-2006, 06:16 PM
I fail to see what this means?It seems to say that its OK to fuck up & be an idiot, but as long as you have a talent for something then its OK.
Wasn't Neische the mad German that believed God is dead?Following the teachings of insane philosophers & Satanism isn't something I'd recommend.
Try Socrates/Plato instead.

NO I have no respect for Mike Tyson as a person.
But he was a great boxer.
Itīs never ok to fuck up and be an idiot.
And Iīm not a satanist, I donīt belong in any religion and I donīt follow Nietsches teachings.

Jim
08-18-2006, 01:06 AM
Hitler wasn't a genius??




After the Great War, native Germans were desperately in need of a
story that would justify why they should not deserve to continue
playing the role of whipping boy of Europe. An intuitive awareness
of their proper place in the scheme of life informed native Germans
that their postwar scapegoat role was somehow unjustified. If
someone should be punished, it wasn't the pureblooded Germans.
Germans are relatively free of simian-traits. A different, but no less
powerful human instinct was also telling them they should seek out
and uncover the root cause of their suffering. And once it was found,
they should cut it out and get rid of it. Logic married instinctive
preference to the latter instinctive urge and from that bond was born a
decision. The decision demanded that an identifiable culprit be found
who was more conclusively tied to a simian past than were
pureblooded Germans. And once found, all that remained necessary
was an explanatory story to cast the unfortunate group into the
antagonist's villain role.

In answer to the need there very quickly arose a literary and
performance artist who crafted the story the people were looking for.
Adolph Hitler explained, in so many words, that if evolution were
driven by the "survival of the fittest", as scientist-philosopher Charles
Darwin said it was, it must also be driven by the death of the "unfit".
And if evolution was driven by the death of the unfit, then killing
one's fellow human beings was not really wrong at all. It was
biological progress. If the unfit must die for the sake of a beneficent
future, then killing was a good thing --- just as long as those that were
terminated were first confirmed as irredeemable anchors to
humankind's distant simian past. At the time, this specious reasoning
was taken almost as a revelation. Prior to Hitler's appearance, and
shortly after Darwin's _The Origin of Species_, the underlying logic
had already begun to gather an apparently respectable philosophical
following, in Germany and elsewhere. The ties to the simian past
would be initially released, and ultimately completely erased, to make
way for a new and better future. The target for erasure would be a
group evidencing a greater number of simian traits but without a way
to exonerate themselves from blame.

The conclusions that were being drawn up in 1930's Germany were
music to the ears of those who could look in a mirror or a family
genealogy and fairly place themselves in a racially "superior" group.
For them, reason had performed well --- Instinct was very pleased.
The new truth especially appealed to Germans who were still closely
tied to their Pagan religious heritage. It implied that the monotheistic
Judaism, as well as its Christian schism, with their "Thou shalt not
kill" and their "Turn the other cheek" and forgive edicts, were
inadvertently training Germans to block the natural upward progress
of evolution. If evolution was impeded, what would become of the
future? If Judeo-Christians and their shortsighted traditions
succeeded, it meant a lasting return to the barbarism and injustice of
previous centuries, a strong taste of which had already seemed to
have come home to roost in the aftermath of the Great War. Perhaps
it even meant the destruction of human civilization. At the very least,
if nothing was done to stop them, it was thought, the Judeo-Christian
primitives would reinforce their power and a topsy-turvy,
superstitious reverse justice would continue to prevail. The essential
hope of man to rise above the primates would be strangled and
humanity would be set on a dwindling spiral path of de-evolution,
back to the mud and the animal primates from whence it came. The
only answer: a small band of brave thoroughbred humans must boldly
stand up to their crudely primitive oppressors. They must draw upon
their superior strength and intelligence and rise up to claim their
rightful position of leadership. The first task on the path towards their
goal was annihilating simian tainted populations and whoever else
might be foolish enough to defend them, before the window of
opportunity closed, perhaps forever.

So... here we have the second characteristic of the "final solution".
After it flatters Instinct with hearty agreement, then it builds a story
that calls Instinct into action. Continued flattery becomes conditional
on the successful implementation of the final solution. "You are good,
you are right, you are untainted by simian characteristics --- but all
these good things will be destroyed unless..." The only way to hold
on to the good things is to apply the solution. It becomes the "last,
best hope of man", "man" referring very specifically to human beings
unspoiled by their animal ancestry.


The Third Reich was a solution crafted by Reason to satisfy Instinct.
To Germans, (as well as any other group that wanted to carve out a
space in the new world), it made perfect sense. The search was over.
The solution had been found. A funny thing happens at this stage.
Instinct has been satisfied. Reason is no longer needed. To protect the
source of satisfaction, Reason stripped of the liberty of undoing a
pleasing state of affairs. It's motivation, it's urges to continue
searching for solutions in general, are retracted. Specifically, if the
story says that German Aryans belong at the top of an evolutionary
hierarchy, and this made the Germans feel hopeful and happy where
before they had felt despondent and morose, then the story could not
be doubted. Instinct had been pleased, feelings were soothed, and
Reason would not be allowed to upset its master.

From contemporary times we can only look in retrospect at the
gaping logical flaws in the story and wonder how anyone could be so
blind as to not notice them. To hint at one: Darwinian "fitness" and
attractiveness are not necessarily the same, no matter what natural
Instinct says. The most beautiful and attractive traits are not
necessarily the most fit to survive and reproduce themselves in a
given situation. A "master race" may only be master of a small subset
of situations. No one can be the master of all situations. Sharks, for
example, are excellent undersea predators. They excel at ripping up
flesh and gulping it down. But on dry land they're helpless. (What's
more they're terrible conversationalists and they don't even know
how to dress... whoops! my human prejudices are showing...) To the
Nazi eugenicist's chagrin, the "fittest" traits in one milieu often turn
out to be the least "fit" in another. Situations are always changing and
Darwinian "fitness" is both gene _and_ situation dependent, a fact
that Adolph Hitler and company conveniently ignored. But no one
wanted to look underneath appearances. No one wanted to keep
checking the story for credibility. No one wanted to critically analyze
the details because they didn't want to risk finding something wrong.
To satisfy the many, the few that did ask the wrong questions were
quickly and efficiently persuaded into silence.

Here we have the third characteristic of the "final solution": After
Reason has found a story that justifies and pleases natural instinct,
Reason's job is over. Instinct will now attempt to defend its new gift
by inhibiting Reason from finding anything that would damage it. In
practice, this means that once the final solution's ideology is set in
place, it cannot be questioned or changed --- by anyone. The story is
set in stone. And once the author is dead, the final solution remains
relatively static, either submerged in complete ignominy or held safe
under the protection of a hierarchy of faithful followers who still
cling tightly to the instinct-pleasing "true" reality of the solution's
central story line.

Hitler's artistry told a story, but it also communicated a script, by
implication. The implied script demanded action, and action is what it
got. In the name of the first "final solution" that boldly set its
follower's eyes on scientifically accelerating the course of human
biological evolution through artificial selection, humanity became the
patient, and the enthusiastic solution advocates, the self appointed
surgeon. The surgeon would serve the greater good of the body by
recognizing, then cutting out the bad cells, leaving the good cells to
thrive in peace. And so, the bombs fell, flesh was turned to ash, and
the human race once again shuddered and convulsed against itself.




What we do know is that there will always be problems and there will
always be people who appear to offer solutions. Of all that are
offered, and accepted, some solutions are designed to work and some
are designed to be accepted because they look like they will work.
The most devastating conflicts almost always begin in the latter
category. Study history with this assumption in mind and be amazed.
Jealousy and a desire for revenge both inspire hatred, this is true, but
so do false hopes. Hope inspired hatred targets anyone who threatens
the hope, either directly or indirectly. The pattern is always the same.
There is the artful solution provider, and he, or she is surrounded by a
relatively artless group who have been convinced, to one degree or
another, that they are in possession of the ultimate, final, perfect,
supreme, holy, exact --- (or whatever adjectives that were in vogue at
the time) --- solution --- to life's most fundamental problems.
Naturally, the Solution providers followers want more than anything to see their
solution applied, usually as broadly as possible. Unfortunately for us,
their white-knuckled ardor derives from a sublime vision of the
future, all in their imagination and hasn't yet come true. But it never
will. The followers have seen the signs, but the signs have misled
them. Perhaps knowingly, perhaps unknowingly, their solution
provider has provided a solution that seems to be working, but really
is not. No matter. Anyone that threatens the hope becomes a target for
hate and much worse. So while the faithful firmly believe they are
leading humanity to a utopia, in fact they are drawing us into needless
conflict. At the end of the road lies at best a painful disillusionment
followed up with cynicism, and at worst terrible bloodshed and death
--- all over a vision of possibility that could never come true. In the
twentieth century the human race has grown more cynical than in
times past. No wonder. Think of all the solutions that haven't lived up
to their provider's claims. The only thing that's truly final about one
of these "final" solutions, is the pronouncement that after all was said
and done, after all the hoopla and fanfare, it really didn't work after
all. It had a hidden flaw. In the aftermath, everyone wonders, how
could we, (or "they") have been so na"ve?

One wonders. One certainly has good cause to wonder. There's
apparently something very important missing from the human psyche.
It starts out very, very gullible. It craves solutions like it craves food.
It will eat anything, if hungry, whatever is within easy reach. Only
later, after hard experience, may it finally wise up. But it often gets
poisoned in the process. Being poisoned with a fraudulent solution
can lead to death. Or, it can lead to murder. The process by which
fraudulent but appealing solutions initially spread, only later to be
abandoned in disgust has been so very destructive to the quality of
life on Earth that there have been those, who have wondered if the process somehow could be
speeded up, or better yet, avoided altogether. The value of education
is that it lets students avoid the dangerous trial and the needlessly
fatal error. A single hard lesson can ruin a whole life. Such a waste.

King
08-18-2006, 10:35 AM
lol where did you copy that from? Or did you do it yourself?

Anyways Hitler was by no means a genious, thereīs no proof of his high IQ. He didnīt invent everything about the holocaust, racial purity and world domination, he had very talented minions. Hitler himself wasnīt very aryan by appearance and thus he was full of bullshit. Are you a Hitler nuthugger or something lol? If I made up my own ideals about races in the world and about how the world should function, it wouldnīt make me a genious at all.

Jim
08-18-2006, 10:54 PM
LOL.I can't take credit for that.
I hopr u read it though.Its a very informative piece.
I'm positive Hitlers IQ wasn't as high as many of the people he fooled, but then again a high IQ isn't necessarily a prerequisite to being a great con artist.

King
08-19-2006, 09:13 AM
Yea thatīs my point, he had talents, alot of them, but intelligence wasnīt in that group lol

Jim
08-19-2006, 10:09 PM
Yea thatīs my point, he had talents, alot of them, but intelligence wasnīt in that group lol

I agree.

I see u changed your av. :)

Jim
08-20-2006, 03:35 AM
Hitler was a master manipulator,he was a genious in the art of manipuation.How else did he get all the smart minions your talking about to carry out his insane visions?It was scheer genius how he pulled it off,it was also repugnant & evil.
I/m unsure why you'd call me a Hitler nuthugger,I don't take kindly to that at all.Pretty fucking stupid actually coming from someone who 'studies satanism'

King
08-20-2006, 11:25 AM
Welly sorry if I hurt your feelings.

And I donīt study satanism anymore.

weeb
08-26-2006, 08:49 PM
no thanks

Evil
09-19-2006, 02:38 AM
Welly sorry if I hurt your feelings.

And I donīt study satanism anymore.

Jesus Is the Light of the World.

dDuecy
09-26-2006, 12:00 AM
yeah well no offense but Satan is GAY thats right GAY and Nietsche is a really big douche bag the only reason i like him is he influenced some good music from the doors. srry if i offended anyone

Beanflicker
12-05-2006, 11:42 PM
Mike Tyson was a great boxer but he was a d*ickhead fellon in his personal life. I dont consider him a good person at all, but a great athlete.


I didn't know you knew Iron Mike personally. Tell him Hi for me.:thatsgay:

jacknicholson
01-08-2007, 09:26 AM
Let me see you burning in hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jessemc
03-31-2007, 07:17 PM
yes what a stupid idea. its all about being selfish and YOU being first at everything. satanists = assholes.

Naramundasraja
03-31-2007, 07:28 PM
Jesus Is the Light of the World.

In other words.
Jesus is the Sun.
And we are all aliens.
Thank God.

jetjaguar
03-31-2007, 08:33 PM
for those with an interest in conspirocies and things satanic ; read "Spear of Destiny" http://www.amazon.com/Spear-Destiny-Trevor-Ravenscroft/dp/0877285470