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bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 03:58 AM
football season is over:wah: so with that said what do you guys think of Darren McFadden? do you think he will be able to have success in the nfl?

Blunt Object
02-12-2008, 04:01 AM
ray rice > d mc

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 04:03 AM
ray rice > d mc

ray rice is good but he's slow as fuck and has a lot of tred on his tires. answer the question!

Blunt Object
02-12-2008, 04:50 AM
ray rice is good but he's slow as fuck and has a lot of tred on his tires. answer the question!

that may be true but ray rice had more tds and more rushing yards that darren if i remember correctly

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 05:16 AM
that may be true but ray rice had more tds and more rushing yards that darren if i remember correctly

ray rice faced weaker teams. not to mention dmac was playing qb sometimes cause he was the best rb and qb on his team.

Wandy4LIFE
02-12-2008, 05:21 AM
McFaddens way better than Ray Rice in my opinion. Hes the best back in this draft. He will be successful in the NFL. I think Mendenhalls the second best back though but him and Rice are close.

ItBurnzWhenIP
02-12-2008, 05:43 AM
McFadden as far as speed/power/running style is similar to Adrian Peterson with a little more top speed and a little less agility/balance/moves. If he goes somewhere with a decent offensive line he'll have very good success.

Blunt Object
02-12-2008, 05:55 AM
McFadden as far as speed/power/running style is similar to Adrian Peterson with a little more top speed and a little less agility/balance/moves. If he goes somewhere with a decent offensive line he'll have very good success.

true

MMAsterkillah
02-12-2008, 05:17 PM
McFadden is money in the bank. This guy is the real deal, folks.

He isn't quite AD, but he is as close as you can get without being him. The one concern I have about McFadden might seem a little bit stupid. I question whether or not he can run in between the tackles. He has a little bit of the Reggie Bush style where he gets 10 yards down field and just about ALWAYS looks to get outside for the big run. I want a guy who can mix it up and isn't predictable... as you can't always rely on speed to beat NFL defenses.

I wouldn't say he has a higher top speed than AD, but they are comparable. The one thing that makes both of these guys so special to me is the fact that they reach top speed after about 3-4 steps in a football game. The explosiveness with which they hit the hole is frightening for opposing defenses.
I bet DM goes #4 to the Raiders.

Ray Rice is good and all, but athletically speaking, he isn't in the same realm of AD or McFadden. Ray Rice DOES have experience and great determination that I think will help him become a good NFL back, however.

James Stewart is a beast, but conditioning and versatility are questions. We know he can play football, but he seems to have a little bit of the Lendale White attitude that "if I can play, my conditioning must not be an issue", when there is always room for improvement.

Mendenhall is a physical specimen as well at about 5'11 225. As the Big Ten offensive player of the year, he was dealing with some of the biggest defenders in the country. Still, that didn't stop him from being consistently physical, showing off his bruising running style. This guy is also a freak of nature, as he is seemingly nothing but muscle and can also run below a 4.50 40.

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 08:19 PM
McFadden is money in the bank. This guy is the real deal, folks.

He isn't quite AD, but he is as close as you can get without being him. The one concern I have about McFadden might seem a little bit stupid. I question whether or not he can run in between the tackles. He has a little bit of the Reggie Bush style where he gets 10 yards down field and just about ALWAYS looks to get outside for the big run. I want a guy who can mix it up and isn't predictable... as you can't always rely on speed to beat NFL defenses.

I wouldn't say he has a higher top speed than AD, but they are comparable. The one thing that makes both of these guys so special to me is the fact that they reach top speed after about 3-4 steps in a football game. The explosiveness with which they hit the hole is frightening for opposing defenses.
I bet DM goes #4 to the Raiders.

Ray Rice is good and all, but athletically speaking, he isn't in the same realm of AD or McFadden. Ray Rice DOES have experience and great determination that I think will help him become a good NFL back, however.

James Stewart is a beast, but conditioning and versatility are questions. We know he can play football, but he seems to have a little bit of the Lendale White attitude that "if I can play, my conditioning must not be an issue", when there is always room for improvement.

Mendenhall is a physical specimen as well at about 5'11 225. As the Big Ten offensive player of the year, he was dealing with some of the biggest defenders in the country. Still, that didn't stop him from being consistently physical, showing off his bruising running style. This guy is also a freak of nature, as he is seemingly nothing but muscle and can also run below a 4.50 40.


#1 lol i have the same concern about that

#2 i think mcfadden is faster than peterson.

MMAsterkillah
02-12-2008, 09:36 PM
I have a hard time believing that McFadden will run faster than the 4.38 AD did.

He will probably run very similarly, however.

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 09:48 PM
I have a hard time believing that McFadden will run faster than the 4.38 AD did.

He will probably run very similarly, however.

i'm not talking overrated 40 times. i'm talking game speed

MMAsterkillah
02-12-2008, 09:51 PM
i'm not talking overrated 40 times. i'm talking game speed

I think both of them run extremely well under any circumstance.

Fast is fast with these specimens. AD's explosiveness makes him what he is.
I think they are about equal in speed, you think McFadden is slightly faster. I don't think we are going to convince each other differently.

I really hope the Pats get McFadden with our #7 pick. I mean, the guy did have some character issues.

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 10:12 PM
I think both of them run extremely well under any circumstance.

Fast is fast with these specimens. AD's explosiveness makes him what he is.
I think they are about equal in speed, you think McFadden is slightly faster. I don't think we are going to convince each other differently.

I really hope the Pats get McFadden with our #7 pick. I mean, the guy did have some character issues.

i doubt mcfadden is still on the board at 7 and if he was you guys wouldn't take him.

MMAsterkillah
02-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Guys to watch out for if the Pats trade down:

Calais Campbell, Mike Jenkins, My boy Kenny Phillips, Aqib Talib, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Antonio's cousin), Dan Connor, Ali Highsmith, Gosder Cherilus.

I really think that the Pats always take the best player in their opinion, and its often a guy who nobody else is even coveting (Ty Warren, Logan Mankins and Ben Watson are recent examples). McFadden doesn't fit that mold, but the Pats haven't really picked here lately, and despite the way Maroney ran in the playoffs, I believe the team is certainly open to taking the BEST player in the draft at #7.

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 10:26 PM
Guys to watch out for if the Pats trade down:

Calais Campbell, Mike Jenkins, My boy Kenny Phillips, Aqib Talib, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Antonio's cousin), Dan Connor, Ali Highsmith, Gosder Cherilus.

I really think that the Pats always take the best player in their opinion, and its often a guy who nobody else is even coveting (Ty Warren, Logan Mankins and Ben Watson are recent examples). McFadden doesn't fit that mold, but the Pats haven't really picked here lately, and despite the way Maroney ran in the playoffs, I believe the team is certainly open to taking the BEST player in the draft at #7.

i hope the boys can draft cromartie. you guys won't draft mcfadden for several reasons but money is one. you got brady making a lot of dough, if you guys resign moss that will be alot of dough than mcfadden will be getting atleast 60 mill.

MMAsterkillah
02-12-2008, 10:49 PM
i hope the boys can draft cromartie. you guys won't draft mcfadden for several reasons but money is one. you got brady making a lot of dough, if you guys resign moss that will be alot of dough than mcfadden will be getting atleast 60 mill.

He won't get 60 mill if he goes at 7. AD got $40.5 mill for 6 years. Hardly impossible for the Patriots to handle. Whoever we take at #7 will be a cap liability, anyhow. Plus, it looks like our veterans all want to return for reasonable prices. That statement excludes Asante and Moss, who they will have to pay substantial money.

Donte Stallworth is almost certainly gone, but he may be re-signed (I kind of doubt it, but local media seems to believe it is possible). He saves us tons. Brady will likely restructure his deal, as his current deal would cost the Pats at least 16$ mill against the cap.

Right now we have 43 players under contract for next year and about $11.5 mil in cap room (LOL Redskins are 20 mill OVER the cap). Anyways, we can save another $17 mil in cap room by releasing Stallworth and Colvin.
The #7 pick will probably cost about a maximum of $7 million in terms of cap immediate cap hit. That means we probably have about $20 million to re-sign Samuel, Moss, Vrabel and Bruschi. That hardly seems impossible. The Patriots also seem to get certain players to sacrifice finances for a chance at glory, so who knows what other contract re-nogotiations could occur between now and next year.

Kelley Washington was also an excellent special teamer, in my opinion pro-bowl caliber, but he will likely have to re-do his contract if he intends on staying a Patriot.

So basically, the Patriots need not be scared. They don't have the luxury of spend, spend, spend like last year, as they are defending the house as well, but I can guarantee that you will see some new names on the defense next year, along with most of the guys you saw this year.

bigbadroy
02-12-2008, 11:52 PM
He won't get 60 mill if he goes at 7. AD got $40.5 mill for 6 years. Hardly impossible for the Patriots to handle. Whoever we take at #7 will be a cap liability, anyhow. Plus, it looks like our veterans all want to return for reasonable prices. That statement excludes Asante and Moss, who they will have to pay substantial money.

Donte Stallworth is almost certainly gone, but he may be re-signed (I kind of doubt it, but local media seems to believe it is possible). He saves us tons. Brady will likely restructure his deal, as his current deal would cost the Pats at least 16$ mill against the cap.

Right now we have 43 players under contract for next year and about $11.5 mil in cap room (LOL Redskins are 20 mill OVER the cap). Anyways, we can save another $17 mil in cap room by releasing Stallworth and Colvin.
The #7 pick will probably cost about a maximum of $7 million in terms of cap immediate cap hit. That means we probably have about $20 million to re-sign Samuel, Moss, Vrabel and Bruschi. That hardly seems impossible. The Patriots also seem to get certain players to sacrifice finances for a chance at glory, so who knows what other contract re-nogotiations could occur between now and next year.

Kelley Washington was also an excellent special teamer, in my opinion pro-bowl caliber, but he will likely have to re-do his contract if he intends on staying a Patriot.

So basically, the Patriots need not be scared. They don't have the luxury of spend, spend, spend like last year, as they are defending the house as well, but I can guarantee that you will see some new names on the defense next year, along with most of the guys you saw this year.

good to know and haha @ the the redskins. now their's talk about the skins trying to get ocho cinco. but anyways you guys won't draft mcfadden when you guys don't need any help on offense and need a lot of help with your ancient lb core

MMAsterkillah
02-13-2008, 12:11 AM
good to know and haha @ the the redskins. now their's talk about the skins trying to get ocho cinco. but anyways you guys won't draft mcfadden when you guys don't need any help on offense and need a lot of help with your ancient lb core

We ran for like 40 yards in the SB. I'm not saying taking a RB is even necessary, but if he is the best player available, it's not like we couldn't use him.

bigbadroy
02-16-2008, 11:10 PM
Pearson's Hail Mary intended to catch McFadden for Cowboys

11:49 PM CST on Friday, February 15, 2008

By KATE HAIROPOULOS / The Dallas Morning News
khairopoulos@dallasnews.com

Who knows if the Big Guy was listening to former Dallas Cowboy Drew Pearson's invocation Friday night at the Doak Walker Award Banquet at the Hilton Anatole.

But Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones – a member of the Doak board of directors – certainly heard it.

Pearson added a little shout out in his prayer for help in making Darren McFadden, the two-time Doak recipient, a Cowboy.

The comment brought laughter to the Chantilly Ballroom, and the idea of the Cowboys making a blockbuster move to draft McFadden brought a buzz to the festivities.

Jerry Jones wasn't spotted, though.

McFadden, the only two-time Doak winner besides Texas' Ricky Williams, could only smile at all the speculation.

"If I was to be a Cowboy, it would be a great thing," said McFadden, who declared for the draft after his junior season at Arkansas. "But I don't have any say-so."
McFadden, a two-time Heisman runner-up, said he hopes to leave his mark on the NFL as he's done in college football.

McFadden had time Friday to get some advice from former USC great Marcus Allen, who was honored as the Doak Walker Legends Award recipient.

Asked if he would attend the NFL combine, McFadden said he didn't know.

"As his representative today," Allen interjected to laughter, "I don't think it's necessary."

June welcome: New SMU football coach June Jones, who appears comfortable with the shuck-and-jiving at these types of Dallas events, got plenty of love during the festivities.

RANDY ELI GROTHE/DMN
Marcus Allen (left) received the 2007 Doak Walker Legends Award, and Arkansas junior running back Darren McFadden took home his second Doak Walker Award.

ESPN's Chris Fowler, who hosted with cohorts Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit, teased that Jones coming to the Hilltop was the "recruiting job of the century."

Allen also congratulated Jones, a longtime acquaintance, on his new gig.

Heady company: The folks at the head table are always an impressive crew.
It included retired Arkansas athletic director Frank Broyles, Stephen Jones, CBS announcer Verne Lundquist and football luminaries such as Larry Johnson, Dat Nguyen, Mike Renfro, Jerry LeVias, Cedric Benson and Tim Brown – the Dallas native who played with Allen for the Raiders.

Scene and heard: How much is a Roger Clemens autographed baseball going for these days? The starting bid at the silent auction was $250. But a witty fan made a statement by placing two cents on the bid sheet before staffers whisked them away. ... A dinner with June Jones for six at Bob's Steak & Chop House went for $2,000. The same meal with SMU basketball coach Matt Doherty brought $1,200. ... Forget to pack? McFadden had a belt and size-13 dress shoes delivered to the Anatole before the pre-banquet news conference. ... Allen played the Rock Band video game with kids during his visit earlier in the day at Children's Medical Center. Allen did the singing – Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive." ... McFadden chatted it up with the parents of Arkansas quarterback Casey Dick of Allen during the VIP gathering. ... Broyles plans to spend his retirement promoting improved care for Alzheimer's patients, inspired by his late wife. More information: www.alzheim ersplaybook.com.

bigbadroy
02-16-2008, 11:12 PM
Top draft prospects McFadden, Jones are Cowboys fans



By CLARENCE E. HILL, JR.
chill@star-telegram.com

MCKINNEY -- Arkansas running back Darren McFadden has heard the rumors of the Cowboys possibly trying to make a trade with Miami for the top pick in April’s NFL draft to select him.

He’s obviously flattered and wouldn’t be opposed to it considering he grew up a Cowboys fan.

"I loved to watch Emmitt Smith run the ball," he said, "I was a big Cowboys fan."
But McFadden, who is training for the draft and next week’s NFL combine at the Michael Johnson Performance Center in McKinney, said he can only worry about what he can control.

"I’ve heard so many rumors about what’s going on with the draft, I just try not to pay attention to any of it anymore," McFadden said. "You have to block it out, because if you don’t, it’ll take control of you, getting caught up in where you want to go and where you think you should go. You try to block it out and focus on getting better out here."

McFadden knows the rumors won’t go away mainly because of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones’ connection to Arkansas. McFadden talked to Jones, a Razorback alumnus, at the HomeDepot College Football Awards Show in December in Orlando.

"He’s a great guy," McFadden said. "I feel like if he had it his way, he would pick me and have me as a running back for him. But the draft works funny."No kidding.

Presently, the Cowboys don’t have what it takes to trade with Miami to move up to the No. 1 spot. McFadden’s agent, Ian Greengross, said based on his knowledge of the draft trade value chart, the Cowboys would have to do more than trade their two No. 1 picks.

Both said McFadden will be happy wherever he goes, but would love to be the No. 1 overall pick.

As rumors have it, if the Cowboys don’t get McFadden, they could select his Arkansas teammate Felix Jones, who has first-round talent but is expected to be available when the Cowboys pick at No. 22 or No. 28.

"I grew up watching the Cowboys in Tulsa, Okla. They were the closest team to our state," Jones said. "I grew up a fan and it’d be an honor to wear the star on my helmet.

Wandy4LIFE
02-17-2008, 01:19 AM
It would be great if the Pats could grab Mcfadden just to get back at you bbr. Its too bad we didn't have Emmitt hes the man.

bigbadroy
02-17-2008, 01:30 AM
It would be great if the Pats could grab Mcfadden just to get back at you bbr. Its too bad we didn't have Emmitt hes the man.

lol like i told your bro, with the offense you guys got you don't need dmac. but speaking of emmitt check out this drawing i just found
http://www.myteamprints.com/images/football/lrg/3322cowboys.jpg

MMAsterkillah
02-17-2008, 09:00 PM
sweet emmitt pic