Scientology?

[ninjashoes]

Do you like it?

[.kingy.]

Do you like it?
I am a Mormon.
Scientology is TEH STUPID.
LONG LIVE JOSEPH SMITH AND THE KOLOB ALIENS!1111

[CHE]

lol i just finished watchin war of the worlds(tom cruise), and i see this, how creepy is that?

[.kingy.]

lol i just finished watchin war of the worlds(tom cruise), and i see this, how creepy is that?
Dewd.
Che is hott.
And Tom Cruise is a tiny tim faggot bitch.

[ninjashoes]

I was watching u

[CHE]

I am a Mormon.
Scientology is TEH STUPID.
LONG LIVE JOSEPH SMITH AND THE KOLOB ALIENS!1111
hell yeah, so since u are mormon, can i marry u, godzuki, and sexkitten? i be good 2 all u

[.kingy.]

No.
You have to be a cult mormon for that.
NASSSSTYBOI.

[CHE]

No.
You have to be a cult mormon for that.
NASSSSTYBOI.
i am, me an ol brigham young go way back, we started the mormon race just me and him. we each married like 26 broads and went to town

[.kingy.]

i am, me an ol brigham young go way back, we started the mormon race just me and him. we each married like 26 broads and went to town
WHORES!111
OMGYES.

[CHE]

WHORES!111
OMGYES.

im a dirty polygamous slut WAR POLYGAMY!

[Resin]

say good night to the man outside you're window.

[Zankou]

If you like crazy cults, and I do, then you will like scientology.

[King]

Scientology is a stinking cult that does nothing good to their members, its all bout the leaders getting their cash.

[twinmatrix101]

The South Park clip of what Sociologists actually believe.

http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=GLnsBv6UQ-o

oh Scientology how I love thee.

[hvi77]

scientology = lame

[Jim]

This is a scientology orientation film.Seriously deluded & creepy.And you cop this on the first visit!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7030171279068709825&q=scientology

[Jim]

Scientologists r given filtering software from their 'church' as to not be able to access the below super secret upper level materials.It takes years of indoctrination to condition the individual to a point where the below can indeed to taken as literal fact.
Hubbard goes as far as to tell followers that if they skip to a higher level they will 'freewheel' through crutial incidents & either go insane or catch pneumonia & die!
Read OT level3 in the mentally ill L.Ron.Hubbards own handwriting.
This must be taken as literal fact in order to complete it & progress to the next level.
[Both Cruise & Travolta are OT7.]
http://www.xenu.net/archive/ot/

This is funny.
http://www.xenutv.com/originals/hollywood.htm

[Jim]

Watch the brainwashed scienos defending their cherished cult.Very funny.
http://www.xenutv.com/originals/4th.htm

[Jim]

A couple of my fav Elwrong Hubbards quotes

"Handling truth is a touchy business also. You don't have to tell
everything you know -- that would jam the comm[communication] line too. Tell an
*acceptable truth*. [In simpler terms...LIE]

"Make money. Make more money.
Make others produce so as to make more money."
L. Ron Hubbard

[weeb]

conspiracy

[The Fire]

The fact that a science fiction writer started this shit is all I need to know to dismiss it.

[ninjashoes]

money is empty, rot in hell liars

[Squirrel]

I read Dianetics in jail and made a phone call as L Ron Hubbard.

[Lethal730]

The South Park clip of what Sociologists actually believe.

http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=GLnsBv6UQ-o

oh Scientology how I love thee.
Does anyone know if this is true? do they really believe this crap?

[The Fire]

Watch the brainwashed scienos defending their cherished cult.Very funny.
http://www.xenutv.com/originals/4th.htm

What are YOUR crimes, jimmyr? What are YOU trying to hide?

[Don]

Apparently Travolta's Battlefield Earth is based on Scientology. I switched it off after 20mins.

[dDuecy]

I wish i would of thought of this, i would be so rich you have to pay quite a bit to be in it. I think it was a get rich quik sceme

[tropicana619]

Scientology is a scam. You shouldn't have to pay to understand your religion.

[The Oyster]

^^ I agree

[Jim]

What are YOUR crimes, jimmyr? What are YOU trying to hide?

I once killed a postal worker in Sydney, chopped him into pieces & buried him in a ditch.

[Jim]

L.Ron Hubbard.Mad as a hatter.
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[CitizenX]

Hey ... what the fuck .. this Kool Aid tastes like shit!

[Hate]

Damn,I knew scientologists where crazy,but after watching those videos on the link provided,they should be locked away.Scientology is a cult,just like the Manson family,and the Koresh cult,both of which the government took down...why do they let these crazies continue to operate?

[crazyhorse]

Scientology is not even a cult. Its an international business. It gained religion status in order to avoid paying federal taxes. The upper level members make loads of cash and you have to pay out your ass to move up. If you want to fuck with a scientologist, ask them how much they have paid to their "religion" to get where they are. There was a group of them at the mall a few months ago giving free stress tests with some kind of electronic device. Don't remember what they were calling it. I asked the guy how much money he has spent on scientology and the dude turned real RED and was embarassed as hell. He wouldn't tell me.

Oh yeah, I read a quote somewhere and Hubbard said, "Want to become a milionare?....start your own religion"

[mindreader]

Join Scientology end up like Tom Cruise!!!!!

That sholud be there slogan

[Jim]

Does anyone know if this is true? do they really believe this crap?
They sure do. Hubbard himself was certainly no fool, a paranoid,schitzo meglomaniac indeed, but not a fool.He built a global empire complete with an intelligence bureau that has been quoted as rivalling that of many countries.He attracted 1000's of adoring devotees & accumulated millions of $$ in the process.
His 'church'[eeeeek]sells a philosophy that is marketed on raising human abilities & awareness,attaining enlightenment,handling lifes many problems etc..The 'church' catch phrase is that it is the only path to attaining 'total freedom'.
The adherent undergoes a series of training routines & courses that are initially beneficial,Hubbard used the concept of helping people in order to gain trust & inevitably control them to suit his aims.

While the upper level doctrines appear too ridiculous to believe,they are indeed believed wholeheartedly by scientologists.These upper level scriptures are unveiled after many years of membership,& not to mention 1000's of $$.Only after a step by step gradual gradient of indoctrination can the scientologist be ready to accept such space opera as literal fact,without this necessary sophisticated manipulation over an extended period the teachings of OT3 & other levels simply wouldn't take,or be accepted as actual truth.

The idea of Cruise,Travolta,DRs,lawyers & many other educated folk who believe Hubbards horseshit is testament to the power of the mechanisms he uses to control & brainwash.Hubbard achieves this so thoroughly that Scientologists are generally beyond reproach & believe Hubbard to be the greatest humanitarian who ever lived.

Anyways,that's enough blathering.Here is Operating thetan level 3[OT3]This is actual upper level church scripture as validated in court.

.................OT3.................
The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger
stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very
space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet,
178 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to
be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the
principal volcanos (Incident II) and then the Pacific area ones
were taken in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged".

His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading
data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants.

When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people)
captured him after six years of battle and put him in an
electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone.
The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length
and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never
recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc)
anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been
dispensed with by my tech development.

One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is
approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running
on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be
careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow
around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did
and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one
ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but
only that given here is needful.

One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or
to the body.

One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I.
It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.
You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some
large, some small.

Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.
Good luck.


The scientologist must now telepathically communicate with these pesky little space fleas & remove them one by one.This will inevitably go on for the rest of their life.OT4-OT8 deals with exactly how to do this correctly.
OT8 in fact deals with a cognition that Hubbard is God.

[JKDkilla]

Scientology is a cult. Any time you try to forcefully brainwash people you're a cult. You harm them or make their life miserable for leaving the organization, you're a cult. Examples: Jehovah's Witness, Mormons, G12 movement, KKK, Satanist, etc...

[JKDkilla]

L.Ron Hubbard.Mad as a hatter.
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This guy was a nut. Look at his smile when he spoke about the amount of the money the org. had. It was a sick, I got control, smirk.

[Jim]

That clip was edited for humour dude.

[Drewlius]

I think it's retarded, yet quite funny. =0

[amanamagus]

I think Scientology is not an original religion. I mean it borrows a lot of philosophy from other religions like christianity and hinduism etc but it is a lot different too

[erskine777]

yep...south park already explained this...and because i too am an intelligent person, i agree with them.

[Jim]

"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology".
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle club

[The_attack]

I can't think of anything that it borrows from christianity. Scientology teaches that the belief of Jesus was implanted into us by aliens.

[Jim]

I can't think of anything that it borrows from christianity. Scientology teaches that the belief of Jesus was implanted into us by aliens.

True.He even says Jesus was a 'lover of young boys'.
Dianetics[scientologys 'on ramp'] is a rehashing of Count Alfred Korzybiskis general semantics.The word scientology was originated by the german philosopher Dr.A.Nordenholz.
Hubbard was a con & a plaguarist.

[blackass]

Ummm..... read a book on it. It has a lot of great things to offer and is very buddhist like. If you guys have specific questions, I will answer them. A few freinds of mine are Scientologists.....they are all doctors...... anyways I am not, but bought a 600 page tall hard bound book on it that is pretty much a summary of EVERYTHING. So if you have questions that are legit (not just trying to get laughs.....although I love that south part episode :) ) I will do my best to look up answers to them.

However, because it is a way of living (a philosophy) there are volume and volumes on books. On everything from how to conduct ethical business to books on beating and moving past personal demons from childhood. Again, the book I have is a giant overview.... so I'll do my best.

[blackass]

After reading this thread as a whole..... no offense but most of you are talking out your asses ( what a shocking thing to happen on the forums!). Some of the comments people made do nothing other than to make you look ignorant.
You clearly know nothing of scientology, have done no real research (what a youtube video... look closer), and have probably never held more than a 30 second conversation with one. If you want real answers you're gonna have to dig deeper.

No offense intended.... I know we're all here to mentally masterbate, but having read the whole book.... I can honestly say I was very impressed with the practice and teachings.

You can argue all day over the dead people, L. Ron Hubbard today his both critics and many fans. By anyones account he was an extrodinary man. His lifes history is hotly debated. Some say he was a con man, merely a SCI FI writer with bad grades. Others including prominent scientists and entrepeueners of the early 20th centuru claimed him brilliant, a teenager who traveled to asia, africa, the south pacific all before 20 (this is in the early 1900s) constantly seeking answeres to sci and philosphicla questions. He was an inventor (look at all the patents), philospher, writer etc.... a true renassiance man.

Point is----- don't listen to me or anyone else. Read Dianetics to start and then tell me if you question his intelligence.

Ps---- the main reason a lot of lay people have a problem with scientology and hubbard is because of his wife. After his death, she tried to twist and rewrite important parts of his work. This caused an outrage by his students.... and was a point of cotention, and still is, amongst the scientolgoy community to this day.

PPS Heres a link to book I got http://www.amazon.com/What-Scientology-L-Ron-Hubbard/dp/1573181226

[blackass]

Oh and just in case this was misunderstood its not a cultits a philosophy. There a jewish, christian muslim scientologists even though the word religon is used.... its more like spirtiuality

[blackass]

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[Jim]

Oh and just in case this was misunderstood its not a cultits a philosophy. There a jewish, christian muslim scientologists even though the word religon is used.... its more like spirtiuality
I got a question.
How can one be a christian,muslim scientologist when christianity teaches that there is one life in which we are judged to either heaven or hell & scientology teaches that we keep re-incarnating?The 2 teachings are fundamentally opposed.

[The_attack]

You can't be a christian and a scientologist, they just don't mesh together. Here is a passage I took out of Wikipedia's section of scientology

"The revealed beliefs in Scientology at higher levels become increasingly contradictory with other religions. The concept of past lives in Scientology is at odds with Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Beliefs concerning the origins and age of the Earth, the root of evil, and the nature of man make it impossible to uphold the beliefs of most other religions while also being a Scientologist. Hubbard claimed that Islam was the result of an extraterrestrial memory implant, called the Emanator, of which the Kaaba is supposedly an artifact. Mainstream religions, in his view, had failed to realize their objectives: "It is all very well to idealize poverty and associate wisdom with begging bowls, or virtue with low estate. However, those who have done this (Buddhists, Christians, Communists and other fanatics) have dead ended or are dead ending.""


You may have read a book about scientology (probably a very one sided one used to try to recruit new members) but i have also done hours of research, and talked to an ex-scientologist. You keep paying more money and as you move up they start to tell you crazier and crazier things.
One of the things hubbard claimed was that one of our closs ancestors are clams.... clams aren't even vertbrates.

He claimed that the reason we have problems is because of the unconscious pain of tramatic events that happened in our past lives, some of which predated our human lives. He says that this has been building up for tens of TRILLIONS of years. our universe isn't even nearly that old.

Hubard is nothing but a science fiction writter. After he started scientology, he started to give medical advice that he had no qualifications to give, and they could be potentially dangerous.
one thing he thought was that a baby shouldn't be breast fed. He came up with a barley formula as a replacement. This formula was actually dangerous because it had honey which can cause infant botulism. The formula also lacked nutrients.

The list of wacked out teachings of his goes on and on

[Jim]

I'd like to hear blackass' thoughts on all this.


He was an inventor (look at all the patents)
That's a new feather in Hubbards already crowded cap.What did he invent?

Here's a quote from Bent Corydons book on Hubbard.:
Around this time, Volney Matthison, whose electro-psychometer
had been used by Hubbard and many Scientologists, had fallen into
disfavor. He had refused to surrender the patent to his invention. It
was the Matthison E-Meter, and Matthison was determined to keep
it that way. So in late 1954 the use of the E-meter was discontinued
by Hubbard.
Wrote Hubbard:

Yesterday, we used an instrument called an E-Meter to register
whether or not the process was still getting results so that the auditor
would know how long to continue it. While the E-Meter is an interest-
ing investigation instrument and has played its part in research, it is
not today used by the auditor....As we long ago suspected, the in-
tervention of a mechanical gadget between the auditor and the pre-
clear had a tendency to depersonalize the session....

In 1958 Don Breeding and Joe Wallis developed a modified, smaller,
battery operated version of Volney Matthison's device, which they pre-
sented to Hubbard. It was christened the Hubbard electrometer. What
a difference a name makes!
As you probably guessed, E-meters were suddenly once again essen-
tial to auditing!
.........................................
Ahh yes... Hubbard the inventor.

[Jim]

Blackass I await your thoughts on the questions posed.

[Jim]

Blackass is a scientologist who can't answer my questions because he thinks I have crimes.

[Soul Position]

I got kidnapped by Scientologists when I was in New York.

[Soul Position]

They showed me a movie and sold me a funny book.

[Soul Position]

...and I threw it away right when I walked outside.


:action banana:

[Evil]

smart move

[kcdog33]

south park teaches me about all religions

[meepins]

I had a dream about Scientology last week. It was either set at night time or the dream was in black and white.
The Scientologists were putting on what looked like a play, and there was a volcano in the background. Oddly it was one of those dragons the chinese have in their parades. They were using it to coerce the other 'inductees' and they were getting scared. It concluded with them putting a pair of brainwashed newbies into what looked like giant bottle-rockets , ye know the kind that get fired off around Halloween, and shot them off into to the night sky looking like shining stars.. presumably back to wherever Scientology teaches is the homeworld. Then one came falling back to earth.

Trippy dream :grin:

[Jim]

Lool at the volcano in the background.

[jessemc]

yea if you actually research that crap you realize its insane brain washing.

[kermitthefrayer]

I think the South Park Scientology episode described my feelings best.

[knockkraut]

One day, I took my gf to a mall in buffalo. There were these people handing out pamphlets on how to lead a happier life. She was given one, I looked down at it and noticed these guys were Scientologists, so I slap the thing right out of her hand and hustle her off. Those guys are nuts.

[kermitthefrayer]

http://www.xenutv.com/int/darkside.htm

Here is a great site with the truth about L. Ron and his troops...

[kermitthefrayer]

Or how about all the FBI files about him about ho he molested little kids on his boat in international water...

http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/fbi-193.html