View Full Version : Philly Shell Defense?


ninjashoes
12-12-2007, 06:31 AM
can someone explain to me what this is

Blunt Object
12-12-2007, 06:33 AM
i hate it in fight night volume 3 before i mastered the counter offense.

Blunt Object
12-12-2007, 06:34 AM
The Philly Shell defense, also known as the Hitman or Crab style defense, is a style of defense used by boxers to capitalize on counter opportunities. This style of defense was first popularized by Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns, who specialized in this defensive style and had an unique "flicker" jab. Current notable practitioners of this style include and James "Lights Out" Toney.

The Philly Shell defense is an unorthodox defense requiring deft movements and quick reflexes, as the main distinguishing aspect of the defense lies in its use of the shoulder roll. The defense is also recognized by its unique placement of the boxer's hands, rather than keeping both hands up near the head, his or her lead hand is placed horizontal across the torso, and the back elbow resting on top of the lead fist, forming a L shape.

To an untrained eye, this defense may seem to leave a large number of holes, most notably the front of the head. This however is merely a false appearance, as a practitioner of the Philly Shell can merely roll off punches toward the head and slip in body hook counter or an uppercut to the solar plexus. For example if there were two right-handed fighters, if fighter A throws a right cross toward fighter B, fighter B in the Philly Shell simply keeps his chin tucked to his shoulder and rolls it toward his left. This leaves his back hand ready to counter fighter A's exposed right side.

In the case of a jab, fighter B wants his back hand to parry the jab while leaning forward or twisting square to his opponent to allow for a quicker counter opportunity. A hook is easily block in this style because the back hand is always up protecting the head. Body shots are likewise protected by the lead hand.

Perhaps the easiest punch to slip through the Philly Shell defense is the uppercut, it forces the practitioner to move his back hand away from his head and down toward the punch to parry or block it, thus exposing the head for a chance hook or haymaker.

As described by the twisting and movement of the defense, the Philly Shell requires a boxer to have move quickness and upper body agility to get to the angles to counter and to roll and block combinations that the opponent throws.

VENDO
12-12-2007, 07:17 AM
Im not a fan of it.

I like the good ole peek-a-boo stance.

IMAMEX
12-12-2007, 09:32 PM
i hate it in fight night volume 3 before i mastered the counter offense.

I fucking hate fighting philly shell fighters. That's def. my hardest matchup.

Nasty Nate
12-12-2007, 10:23 PM
yea that stance is ridic. expecially if all the person is gonna do is block and backstep

Nasty Nate
12-12-2007, 10:23 PM
SUM1 FIGHT ME RIGHT NOW!

IMAMEX
12-13-2007, 12:30 AM
SUM1 FIGHT ME RIGHT NOW!

dude I gotta buy that game so I can lose to your haymaker skillz

Nasty Nate
12-13-2007, 12:31 AM
ninja just difused my haymaker skills, i must go back to the gym and reevaluate.

VENDO
12-13-2007, 03:26 AM
Ali's Jab > haymakers.

ninjashoes
12-13-2007, 12:10 PM
I beat niakiruh with my lean back and throw uppercut and do nothing else style.

Beanflicker
12-13-2007, 05:32 PM
Ok there are some misconceptions that need to be cleared up.

1. There is no Philly Shell. Philly has no claim to its origin, its a technique that was popularized in Michegan gyms. Can't remember the names, but there were a few guys who designed it for the aging fighter, who no longer had the quick legs and needed to operate well defensively while stationary.

2. The "Philly Shell" (sic) and the Crab defense are two different things. For you guys who understand Fight Night round 3 terms, the Crab Defense is more similar to the "Cross defense". A lot of old school guys used this on the inside to create a shell of defense. Watch Archie Moore, for my money he was one of the better practicioners, as well as George Foreman during his comeback (who, not coincidentally, was being trained by Archie Moore). Watch Foreman's fight against Shannon Briggs for a good display of the Crab Defense.

Like mentioned above, the mechanics of this defense are pretty straight forward. The left hand is kept low to protect the body. The chin is protected by the left shoulder by rolling it back. The right hand is kept high to pick off hooks and jabs.

To see this defense at its best, watch guys like Locche, Toney and Floyd Jr


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VENDO
12-14-2007, 11:40 AM
I like you beanflicker, but sometimes you try to hard to sound knowledgable.

Beanflicker
12-14-2007, 03:19 PM
I don't gotta try hard, it comes natural my friend. I've been blessed with a mind for knowledge, I gotta share my gift sometimes.

Nasty Nate
12-14-2007, 03:42 PM
ninja you will pay for your insolence!!!

beanflicker wanna throw down?

Beanflicker
12-14-2007, 05:08 PM
Maaaan I'd love to but Im having Xbox woes, they replaced my broken xbox with a broken Xbox, now I gotta have THis one replaced. Maybe I'll have a working Xbox in the new year.... maybe...

ninjashoes
12-17-2007, 01:51 PM
niakiruh has won our second encounter but I suspect hax

IMAMEX
12-17-2007, 09:22 PM
niakiruh has won our second encounter but I suspect hax

you guys should fight with manny and erik. Throw down some 700 punches per round