He may be arrogant, he may be a dick, but he is one of the greatest prizefighters of all time. If you disagree, you just don't know boxing.

4sho!

but still

war hatton

most talented fighters of all time yes... Greatest? Not even in the top 20. When he stops taking fights he sees as the easy win he might have a chance, fighting Barton is a good start. Beating Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Williams and Cintron will put him there. He still hasn't fought a top 10 guy at 147, and DLH had him if he had enough stamina to pressure him.

Easy wins? Baldomir was tailor made for his style, everyone knew that, but all his recent opponents were great challenges. Stylistically, Jab Judah was a nightmare for him on paper.

People can nitpick all day, accuse him of dodging this fighter and that, ect ect, but at the end of his career we can look back and see that the guy fought some great fighters, beat all kinds of different styles, beat guys with rediculous size and weight advantages, and had a lot of heart.

People say he can't be mentioned with guys like Ray Leonard. Why not? We all know how Ray refused to give Hagler a rematch. We all know how he ducked Aaron Pryor like he had leopracy. Take a look at pretty much all the greats, gaurenteed you'll find great fighters who they either ducked or just conveniently never got around to fighting.

When he stops taking fights he sees as the easy win he might have a chance, fighting Barton is a good start. Beating Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Williams and Cintron will put him there. He still hasn't fought a top 10 guy at 147, and DLH had him if he had enough stamina to pressure him.

it could be that the fights look easy after the fact. If I hyped chuck liddell and the first fight you saw was him getting clocked by rampage, many would think it was an easy win vs an overrated guy.

even if he beats everyone you mention, there will be plenty of people who say cintron was too young, mosley too old, etc.

it could be that the fights look easy after the fact. If I hyped chuck liddell and the first fight you saw was him getting clocked by rampage, many would think it was an easy win vs an overrated guy.

even if he beats everyone you mention, there will be plenty of people who say cintron was too young, mosley too old, etc.

Good point. People forget about fighters like Diego Corrales, who was undefeated at the time, knocking everyone out and a lot of people picked to whallop Floyd. Diego was one hell of a fighter, everyone knows that, but if you watch the fight you'd think Diego was just some guy they picked off the street at the last second. It takes a virtuoso to make good fighters look like shit.

yeah that corrales fight is a great one, floyd completely neutralized his size and reach advantage

people often underappreciate athletes who at times make it look easy

i think floyd is great but i wouldn't put him real high because he hasn't faced the level of competition that a lot of greats have. floyd is the greatest boxer in one of boxing's most uncompetitive era's

most talented fighters of all time yes... Greatest? Not even in the top 20. When he stops taking fights he sees as the easy win he might have a chance, fighting Barton is a good start. Beating Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Williams and Cintron will put him there. He still hasn't fought a top 10 guy at 147, and DLH had him if he had enough stamina to pressure him.

I think he deserves a mention amongst the greats...particularly if he gets by Hatton.
People 4get that when he fought DLH he was giving away 16 odd pounds and he still managed to wear the bigger man down.That in itself is impressive.
Oscars a great fighter & he did all he could to beat Floyd,and I'd hazard a guess that if they were to fight again the same would happen...... he'd get outlasted by the superior athlete.

well who fighting now goes above him...oscar de la hoya?

de la hoya who fought fossiilzed versions of julio caesar chavez and hector macho camacho?
who avoided vernon forrest, lost to mosely twice (where does he rank?), got a gift decision vs felix strum to set up a hopkins megafight then got ko'd by hopkins and lost to a much smaller PBF?

face it, many will never give floyd his due b/c of his public persona just like lennox lewis never got his because he wasnt stereotype outside the ring nor was he american.

people will continue to say PBF isnt one of the best of all time until he loses, then they'll say "I told you so." even if he fought a much bigger, younger guy. and if he retires undefeated then he never fought anybody.

well who fighting now goes above him...oscar de la hoya?

de la hoya who fought fossiilzed versions of julio caesar chavez and hector macho camacho?
who avoided vernon forrest, lost to mosely twice (where does he rank?), got a gift decision vs felix strum to set up a hopkins megafight then got ko'd by hopkins and lost to a much smaller PBF?

face it, many will never give floyd his due b/c of his public persona just like lennox lewis never got his because he wasnt stereotype outside the ring nor was he american.

people will continue to say PBF isnt one of the best of all time until he loses, then they'll say "I told you so." even if he fought a much bigger, younger guy. and if he retires undefeated then he never fought anybody.


Yeah its annoying sometimes when a fighter like Floyd isnt given his dues based on objective analysis of his accomplishments and skill.. but rather on personal dislike of his percieved character.

50 years from now, we will respect floyd.

http://www.fightnews.com/1photos/hatton_mayweather_guzman1.jpg


Floyd 147lbs….Hatton 145.
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BOTH MADE WEIGHT….. ITS ONN!!
I dont know about you guys but I cant wait for this.

I'm off to the RSL tomorrow. War Hatton!

I firmly believe that if Mayweather fought 50 years ago, same level opponents, same performances, he would be UNANIMOUSLY hailed as the greatest fighter of all time.

He has EVERYTHING.

every boxing analyst i have listened to has pretty much said Hatton has no chance and the Pretty Boy is one of the all time greats

PBF is incredible, but boxing as a whole has changed...

I don't like comparing eras.
That said, Ray Leonard was slightly overrated and given a free pass whereas people will nitpick PBF because of his persona outside of the ring.

floyd rocks

Fuck thats annoying how the drunk pommy fans continually chant.
Theres gonna be a riot if PBF wins.
WAR PBF!

floyd is boring. he can't finish a big name fighter

PBF is da fuckin man.

floyd is boring. he can't finish a big name fighter

LOL.Self pwned.

floyd is boring. he can't finish a big name fighter

You can say that again! LOL

You can say that again! LOL

i was wrong. it's about time. i said that in the 8th rd. cause i was falling asleep cause he is so boring

floyd is one of the best of all time but, when i hear people compare him with SRR i want to kick their ball sack

floyd's not boring, it takes 2 to make a compelling fight.

not his fault if he's so good defensively that nobody can hit him. the corrales fight was plenty entertaining. you cant expect the man to let himself get hit for entertainments sake

Yeah, well naturally non-boxing fans are going to find Mayweather boring. Usually the two ingredients for a great fight are a) back and forth action and b) a lot of big punches landing.

Floyd's fights lack a) because there really aren't too many guys who can give him a decently compeditive fight. And it lacks B) because we all know Floyd doesn't get hit often, and he's very economical with his own punching.

Boxing is a tough sport, you gotta look out for yourself. There have been too many guys who were fan favorites, had their brains beat in and now that they are retired no one gives a shit about them. Floyd will retire with his health and a huge bankroll. Like he said, he'll retire from boxing, boxing wont retire him.

Great fight... It took somebody with Hatton's style to actually make Floyd want to fight... That said the fix was in on the fight but Floyd took care of it himself. Floyd sticks his elbow in Hattons face and turns his back repeatedly and nothing but when Hatton clobbered him to the back of the head automatic point deduction? Where was the formal warning? And in the early rounds when Floyd wasn't ready for Hattons pressure the ref was constantly jumping in when Hatton had Floyd flustered. And the scorecards at the time of the stoppage had Hatton winning 1 round lol... Was it the round where Floyd was sleepign on the ropes like QJ against Wanderlei or the 1st where he almost stumbled backwards running so fast?

That being said goodjob (for once) PBF for taking care of business by yourself

As far as the scorecards were concerned, I had Hatton winning 2 rounds and I thought the point deduction was bullshit. But man if you think Hatton was close or even ahead of Floyd on points at the time of the KO, I don't know what to say besides take off the Hatton Goggles.

As far as the scorecards were concerned, I had Hatton winning 2 rounds and I thought the point deduction was bullshit. But man if you think Hatton was close or even ahead of Floyd on points at the time of the KO, I don't know what to say besides take off the Hatton Goggles.

Hatton was not ahead at the time of KO but was down a good two rounds (3 with the deduction) However I had him winning 4 of the first 5 rounds... I can't really understand a judges card giving him 1 round. And the deduction was bullshit.

I had a hunch scoring would be controversial in this fight, thats why I'm glad it ended in a KO

I had a hunch scoring would be controversial in this fight

gotta set up the rematch...another pbf vs de la or hatton would do major numbers but the outcome would be the same

Watched this fight last night. Hatton got destroyed. one more for the yanks