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Goodkidcc
07-15-2006, 04:29 PM
Leg kicks can chop trees down. High kicks lift them off the ground.

robz
07-17-2006, 04:54 PM
they do teach some good kicks

hvi77
07-17-2006, 09:17 PM
yes, kicking is very good in TKD, little or no grappling though

SolitaryIndividual
07-17-2006, 10:38 PM
yeah i took tkd for a number of years, and i did enjoy it, but after i left it i started training mma/nhb and realized that for actual fighting, it fails pretty bad ... the only things i could say that i took from it was the flexibility it gave me in my kicking ... i could kick high and hard, but the kicks they teach in tkd arent practical, except for the roundhouse or the front snap(used more as a front push kick)

Gratification
07-18-2006, 03:16 AM
I took TKD for years and recently have switched to Muay Thai. So many bad habits from TKD point sparring.... I often dream of going back to my old "dojo" and wearing out the "sparring class" with leg kicks and knees.

I want my money and my time back. Death to TKD!

Gratification
07-18-2006, 03:34 AM
tkd I took TKD for years and recently have switched to Muay Thai. So many bad habits from TKD point sparring.... I often dream of going back to my old "dojo" and wearing out the "sparring class" with leg kicks and knees.

I want my money and my time back. Death to TKD!

Squirrel
07-18-2006, 03:44 AM
I used to practice TKD and it was great for the time. I had a blast and learned some great kicks that are very effective if you learn how to deliver them properly. Although many of today's MMA practitioners use TKD kicks effectively many people still won't aknowledge it in MMA forums. Oh well...

SolitaryIndividual
07-18-2006, 11:58 AM
tkd is worthless in mma, nobody uses tkd in nhb fights, some kicks may resemble them, but they are just variations of MT kicks ... like i said earlier the front snap is similar to the front push kick and the roundhouse is just kind of a kick that is thrown around here and there, it really cant be credited to TKD

SolitaryIndividual
07-18-2006, 12:00 PM
on a funnier note, my former NHB instructor used to call Tae Kwon Do "Take Kids Dough" lol ... i think that fits it pretty well

hvi77
07-18-2006, 02:49 PM
TKD is no good for mma events

Squirrel
07-18-2006, 03:39 PM
tkd is worthless in mma, nobody uses tkd in nhb fights, some kicks may resemble them, but they are just variations of MT kicks ... like i said earlier the front snap is similar to the front push kick and the roundhouse is just kind of a kick that is thrown around here and there, it really cant be credited to TKD

That's total bullshit. Reverse side-kicks and straight side-kicks are not MT kicks.

TheSleeze
07-18-2006, 06:04 PM
tkd is worthless in mma, nobody uses tkd in nhb fights, some kicks may resemble them, but they are just variations of MT kicks ... like i said earlier the front snap is similar to the front push kick and the roundhouse is just kind of a kick that is thrown around here and there, it really cant be credited to TKD

If you think TKD is useless you should realize strikers like Stephan Bonnar, David LeOiseaux and Bas Rutten started martial arts with it. You've probly seen both Bonnar and LeOiseaux do spinning or jumping kicks. David even finished someone with a jumping back kick. Is it really that ineffective?

BTW Take Kids Dough is hilarious, laughed my ass off.

Resin
07-19-2006, 03:19 AM
I sometimes feel like wanting to go to my local TKD gyms and ask to spar with one of there students.

Joris
07-19-2006, 05:38 AM
I took TKD for a number of years. Although it isn't all that useful in NHB fights, it was still fun and if you want to get into MMA, TKD is an OK place to start.

Squirrel
07-19-2006, 09:19 AM
I had some great instructors such as John Longstreet (kick-boxer) and I had a blast. It's not all about 'point fighting' but that's fun too when you go full blast.

"Under the tutelage of veteran fighter-turned-trainer, Larry Carnahan, Mr. Longstreet established a professional record of 29 wins and 1 loss with with 11 knockout victories. On September 28, 1986, John knocked out John Moncayo in the eighth round to win the International Sport Karate Association (ISKA) World Middleweight Championship. Mr. Longstreet held the title until June of 1989."

SolitaryIndividual
07-19-2006, 10:25 PM
yeah i loved that too lol ... a big problem with tkd is also that most places that teach it just kinda shuffle people through it, let them break a few boards, do a form or two, then they hand them a belt and make them feel acomplished. I realize that some fighters had their start in tkd because i started the exact same way, but even if you ask the fighters themselves they would tell you that tkd was probably the most useless art they learned for fighting nhb. Those spinning heal hooks and so on are so hard to pull off in a real fight, that fight with david may be one of the handfull of times a spinning back kick has ever finished a fight in mma history, and i see those kicks throwin a every once in awhile, but i never see them land or do any damage, they almost hurt the guy in that if he doesnt recover quickly he leaves himself vulnerable to other attacks .

And yes front push kicks are used all of the time in MT, along with round houses, even tho my instructor always told people to use them as little as possible and to alway use a spin kick first

SolitaryIndividual
07-19-2006, 10:27 PM
to sum it up i guess, the only arts that are effective in mma/nhb are those where you are leaving your blood sweat and tears on the matt when you are finished, and you are going against a fully resisting opponent, i have never heard of a tkd dojo like that.

dynamitemitch
07-19-2006, 10:35 PM
i took it for years and found it to be garbage....fun but garbage. I will state that it is more useful than karate though. Karate is lame

oddtopsy
07-20-2006, 07:03 AM
tae kwon do is fucking gay
any discipline with 9 and 10 year olds running around with black belts fucking blows

SolitaryIndividual
07-20-2006, 09:58 AM
you both hit it on the head

kimo
08-03-2006, 04:54 PM
ive been teaching TKD for about 4 years now
im a brown belt
and yea well compared to MMA what discipline even stands a chance??

i crosstrain at Lions Den Dallas with Guy Mezger and them (well i used to for a lil bit)

King
08-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Tkd? Never!

King
08-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Because there were guys in my school who were in TKD and thought they owned the world and kicked air in every recess and gay stuff like that. But cuz I´m a cool guy I never complained to them cuz they werent kicking air infront of me :) but I Kicked their asses everytime we had physical education. Only cuz I am fat though.

TheRich
08-03-2006, 09:33 PM
Never seen a good TKD gym

dynamitemitch
08-04-2006, 05:19 PM
It's just not a very practical Martial Art if used in MMA. I wouldn't use what I learned in TKD in any my MMA fights b/c i might end up KO'd or taken down. Also, kimo...what mezger and the lion's den like?

ninjashoes
08-07-2006, 08:00 PM
Its weak because theres no full contact live sparring, like others said its good to develope kicks with, it might take years of practice but you can land some of the flashier kicks with the right timing. I am a little tired of hearing posters talk about how MT is godlike though, many MT guys have been destroyed by karate guys and yeah theres been Kung Fu guys who beat Muay Thai too. Do some research into K-1 and kickboxing history and you'll see all kinda of suprising stuff.

Squirrel
08-07-2006, 08:24 PM
You get out of any martial art what you put into it. You can learn all the moves and kicks in the world but if you don't know how to apply them in a real situation then you will get beat. Any art can beat any other art on any given day. Regardless of what you know, the better fighter will win the fight.

ninjashoes
08-08-2006, 03:07 AM
Yeah there is no best martial art. We all thought BJJ was the best before but know we know that was just an illusion and it actually has some very big weaknesses. No one style can get you anywhere in mma, you gotta do em all plus come up with your own ideas and training methods that work for you.

Wiking
08-08-2006, 05:29 AM
I briefly took TKD as a child and i came to realize very quickly that TKD lacked something that I think is very important to a martial art and that is disipline. Ive known at least 2-3 people that were TKD blackbelts and none of them could really hold there own in a fight, ive actually seen one of them fight and the kid didnt even throw a kick, it was like a deer in headlights he got his ass kicked, he didnt know what to do, but ill tell ya one thing, he sure knew how to talk shit beforehand.

kimo
08-12-2006, 12:01 AM
It's just not a very practical Martial Art if used in MMA. Also, kimo...what mezger and the lion's den like?
alot of guys go through there, like Alex Andrade was there for a while
he used to take his son for boxing, he wanted the guy i went there with to train him
ive seen guys like Roger Huerta and Buddy Clinton there
as far as the training, its top of the line
but i havnet been there in a while, i was basically a sparring partner for my friend
(im young 20, i graduated high school and college-technical school and i teach TKD so thats why i dont go up there and train hardly, i dont have the time)

oddtopsy
08-15-2006, 01:37 AM
korea by kick..

dza_one
08-15-2006, 07:42 AM
trained TKD for 7 years, now doing Muay Thai. Had to change the way I kicked when I started MT, but i'm glad I did cause I feel my kicks are more powerful

Joris
08-16-2006, 07:32 AM
did tkd for 3 years..starting bjj and kickboxing at the end of the month

weeb
08-26-2006, 08:38 PM
tkd guys are so cocky

wave_mann
10-14-2006, 10:47 PM
I've never really heard any positive to using TKD in practical situations. Are there different types of TKD (olympic, etc...)?

Perko
10-18-2006, 01:14 PM
ive been training for 6 years, about to go for my black belt. ive heard here people saying that you just go break a few boards and get a black belt. my club, under the instruction of a former member of the korean national team who fought at the olympics as a demo sport in 1988, is relatively new and has had reasonable success in the tkd scene. i think from a MMA perspective alot of it is useless (ie blocks with ur hand open haha i learnt the hard way i am still recovering from a broken hand and wrist which i had to have plated) but the base is there (flexibility, technique, VERY importantly combinations and MOST importantly balance!).

one student has recently come to us, who has been training BJJ and i have learnt more street moves than you can poke a stick at. i have never had any problems handling myself in clubs as our instructor mixes a lot of our training to things that work (ie takedowns, ground and pound and a number of wrist/arm locks and chokes)

the whole sparring thing isnt for me, im the kid who has to break bricks cuz im too tall to competitivly spar but i often consider crossing over to muai thai, toughen up and learn how to hurt people, but the whole mindset of TKD is great. it teaches u respect for yourself, your training partners and famly and of course your opponents.

trivia: the spinning backfist is historically a taekwondo move haha

Perko
10-18-2006, 01:20 PM
I've never really heard any positive to using TKD in practical situations. Are there different types of TKD (olympic, etc...)?

there are...wtf (world taekwondo federation/olympic), itf (slight modification where you can punch) and moon lee (korean who moved to america)

alot of tkd guys are cocky because they can to 720 degree kicks lol it shits me to tears that i cant do it, but its not the end of the world.

modern taekwondo is a lot different to traditional tkd. considering it has stemmed from karate (korean karate its commonly called) i learn from a more traditional instructor who focuses on simpler, more 'dangerous' kicks.

we learn sprawls, basic throws, of course dozens of kicks (which are effective trust me) and hand strikes but yeh theres pleanty of evidence that in mma it isnt that effective. i bring it down to the fact that MMA fighters are much more aggressive because there isnt a point striking system and it takes a LOT to remove yourself from that style of fighting...

brycelei
11-01-2006, 09:01 AM
I actually started out with muay thai first and then went to tae kwon do. Talk about devolving! Well my dad actually taught me muay thai but he is a lazy bastard and just has me kicking the rice bag (ouch) five hundred times a day. I had no training partners so when I took tae kwon do (only thing around my area), I was thrilled. I finally had sparring partners! The master's son was cussing at me 'cause he hurt his shin when I checked his body kicks with a leg shield. Not my fault his legs weren't conditioned.

Nodachi
11-26-2006, 01:25 AM
Its weak because theres no full contact live sparring, like others said its good to develope kicks with, it might take years of practice but you can land some of the flashier kicks with the right timing. I am a little tired of hearing posters talk about how MT is godlike though, many MT guys have been destroyed by karate guys and yeah theres been Kung Fu guys who beat Muay Thai too. Do some research into K-1 and kickboxing history and you'll see all kinda of suprising stuff.


I did TKD about ten years ago and we did lots of full contact sparring, every day in fact. even the lower belts green and up did full contact. Several students were also doing kickboxing, and one female student was competing for a belt.
I think there is a misconception about most martial art, its not about fighting but if you think that a fighter knowing these skills before training mma has wasted time learning it, you would be wrong. The best stand up guys have a background in traditional martial art.

Ajax69
11-26-2006, 09:25 PM
I trained TKD in my late teens. I chose TKD simply because it looked the best of what was available. Lasted 12 months before I gave it up.

doped
01-09-2007, 04:36 AM
i did it when i was young

like 10-12

i was so loaded with equipment

arm pads leg pads helmet chest protector cup

that i could barely move

i would try to throw kicks and i couldnt get my leg up because of the cup and the chest protector

Perko
01-14-2007, 10:56 AM
I trained TKD in my late teens. I chose TKD simply because it looked the best of what was available. Lasted 12 months before I gave it up.

i wonder why you gave up

because you are a leecher from this site maybe?

Perko
01-14-2007, 10:57 AM
i did it when i was young

like 10-12

i was so loaded with equipment

arm pads leg pads helmet chest protector cup

that i could barely move

i would try to throw kicks and i couldnt get my leg up because of the cup and the chest protector

haha downgrade the equipment bro

i usually wear a smalled chest guard and of course the cup...its like a mma cup so it wont restrict u just protects the sticks and berries...

Submission Magician
01-15-2007, 11:52 PM
I was in TKD before I started wrestling in grade school. Got to green belt.
I love the powerful kicks. The spinning back is the most powerful kick you can deliver. I love it when you see GSP or Chuck Liddell hit those in fights.

headwound
02-28-2007, 02:08 PM
tae kwon do is fucking gay
any discipline with 9 and 10 year olds running around with black belts fucking blows

absolutley

VicDienekes
02-28-2007, 08:25 PM
To answer the threadstarter's question-

Nah they're out back having their asses kicked by people that can actually fight.