Russian Leader Calls For Urgent Delivery Of Anti-aircraft Missile Systems To Iran

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Russian Leader Calls For Urgent Delivery Of Anti-aircraft Missile Systems To Iran

(RTTNews) - Vice Chairman of Russia's Parliament Duma, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, has urged the fast delivery of the sophisticated S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran to enable the Middle Eastern country to defend its air space, the Press TV reported. Zhirinovsky was addressing the open session of Duma on Wednesday.

The new generation anti-aircraft / anti-missile weapon system developed by the Russian Almaz Central Design Bureau is capable of detecting and destroying targets up to a range of 250 miles. Experts say the S-400 can tackle cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and aircraft made with low observable materials such as the American 'stealth' bomber.

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[Evil]

Oh great...

[GiantRobotDelux]

Russia. That country has BALLS. There's no legitimate reason for anyone to attack Iran's air space.

[blevunly]

Why bring this back up? It's old news...

[GiantRobotDelux]

Cause its awesome how Russia knows the U.S.A is bankrupt and won't come after them!

[amanamagus]

War Putin! War Fedor!

[GiantRobotDelux]

War Putin! War Fedor!

They wouldn't send Fedor over there. There would be to many casualties.

[amanamagus]

They wouldn't send Fedor over there. There would be to many casualties.
They want to solve the issues by peaceful means. Man Slaughter is the last thing they want. It'd be really very unfair to send fedor.

[blevunly]

Cause its awesome how Russia knows the U.S.A is bankrupt and won't come after them!

We're not to bankrupt to come after them. It would be dumb to start a war with Russia over trading some weapons and Russia knows this so they're trying to act tough. Just like how they do the fly bys. I don't really blame them though, The US is misusing its military.

Again though this stuff is old they've already disporved that the Iranians were trying to obtain nuclear weapons. Now they'll have to come up with some other BS excuse to attack them.

[GiantRobotDelux]

^ THe united states owes more then it has assets in the entire country. If they fought a war with a power like Russia the country would crumble, the dollar would mean nothing. The U.S.A is already stretched to thin in Iraq to even consider more military conflict. Its open season world police!

[GiantRobotDelux]

so yeah.. you are too bankrupt.

[blevunly]

^ THe united states owes more then it has assets in the entire country. If they fought a war with a power like Russia the country would crumble, the dollar would mean nothing. The U.S.A is already stretched to thin in Iraq to even consider more military conflict. Its open season world police!

A war with Russia would spark the economy just like WWII and if you think we are just gonna leave troops in Iraq while we combat a super power, then you are crazy. The war would also draw in other nations and guess who they're going to turn to for weapons. That's right the US. along with the fact that Russia is doing about as well as we are right now and their military would not be able to stand up to ours.

Of course all this is pointless as neither will ever step foot on the others soil without nukes flying.

And there is no legitement reason for the US to attack Iran.

[GiantRobotDelux]

A war with Russia would spark the economy just like WWII and if you think we are just gonna leave troops in Iraq while we combat a super power, then you are crazy. The war would also draw in other nations and guess who they're going to turn to for weapons. That's right the US. along with the fact that Russia is doing about as well as we are right now and their military would not be able to stand up to ours.

Of course all this is pointless as neither will ever step foot on the others soil without nukes flying.

And there is no legitement reason for the US to attack Iran.


I'm with you on Iran man. But there is no way the U.S would attempt a full scale war against a country as big as they are and be victorious. The economy is in too rough shape that the troop numbers are WAY down from the 1990s/80s numbers.
War doesn't always stimulate the economy. Vietnam/Korea/Iraq all come to mind.

also, I doubt any country in Europe would back the U.S against the Russians in the next 5 years. It would consume them. And there is only 1 power in the middle east that would, Isreal, but they've got more pressing issues at hand.

the point is that
1. The economy is in piss poor shape (The Canadian Dollar is down and its still only .03 away from the American).
2. The U.S military is no longer feared in Russia or China. It's pretty clear to them that the u.s stratagy is "meat grinder".

[GiantRobotDelux]

also, the u.s would have to borrow more money from the international community (I think they borrow somehting like 2 trillion a year rightnow) eventually they will have to pay those bills. wars rack up debt.

[blevunly]

I'm with you on Iran man. But there is no way the U.S would attempt a full scale war against a country as big as they are and be victorious. The economy is in too rough shape that the troop numbers are WAY down from the 1990s/80s numbers.
War doesn't always stimulate the economy. Vietnam/Korea/Iraq all come to mind.

also, I doubt any country in Europe would back the U.S against the Russians in the next 5 years. It would consume them. And there is only 1 power in the middle east that would, Isreal, but they've got more pressing issues at hand.

the point is that
1. The economy is in piss poor shape (The Canadian Dollar is down and its still only .03 away from the American).
2. The U.S military is no longer feared in Russia or China. It's pretty clear to them that the u.s stratagy is "meat grinder".


We have a far superior weapons arsenal to Russia giving us an advantage. Military numbers don't matter as there would most certainly be a draft. All the wars you named were wars in which we were fighting to maintain land, more so than conquer any enemy. A World War is what this would most certainly escelate to. With China siding with Russia Britian with us and everyone else would be up for grabs as this is purely hypothetical. Don't judge the US military by its performance in Iraq as we are not using our full cababilities, that would be too costly and not produce ay better results.

Again, this would never happen. With nukes we will never go past a cold war standoff without dire consequences.

[GiantRobotDelux]

Don't judge the US military by its performance in Iraq as we are not using our full cababilities, that would be too costly and not produce ay better results.


The U.S is using its Navy, Airforce, and Army. The only thing they are not using is ICBMs.


All the wars you named were wars in which we were fighting to maintain land, more so than conquer any enemy.

So they wern't trying to repel the viet-cong in vietnam? they were just maintaining land? AHAHAHAHa bwaahahahhaahahahaha

China/Russia > U.S.A/Britain

[GiantRobotDelux]

Anyway, its good to see Russia sticking up for a nation that has all barrells aimed at it by a foreign invader.

[blevunly]

The U.S is using its Navy, Airforce, and Army. The only thing they are not using is ICBMs.




So they wern't trying to repel the viet-cong in vietnam? they were just maintaining land? AHAHAHAHa bwaahahahhaahahahaha

China/Russia > U.S.A/Britain

The vietnam wat was fought to keep North Vietnam from taking over South Vietnam... Hence maintaining land, the Korean war was fought to stop North Korea's invasion of South Korea. Fianlly, the Iraq war is being fought to stabilize Iraq so the country doesn't destroy it's or get invaded.

BTW fighting an enemy that looks like a civilian one minute only to be attacking you the next is alot different then fighting a straight up war with military bases to hit. Remember how fast we wiped out the Iraqi military. Russia isn't going to use Gorilla tactics like the Vietnamese or the Arabs... The straight up war we would fight with them would allow us to better use the weapons we have.

They aren't really better, our military is superior the only thing they have is numbers.

Anyway, its good to see Russia sticking up for a nation that has all barrells aimed at it by a foreign invader.

Yeah Russia is so nice. Just like how they want to help the Serbs obliterate the newly independent nation of Kosovo, they are really looking out for the little guy.

[GiantRobotDelux]

Who would the Americans borrow money from to fight China and Russia? There is no way the U.S economy could sustain an all out straight fight with either of these countries and still maintain their economy. It doesn't matter how much more technologically advanced their military is if they have no money to spend on it.
Even if the Americans were victorious, they'd have nothing to show for it but trillions in debt (which they already have to show ATM).


my argument is about money not about the difference between a straight fight and a jungle/urban war.

[blevunly]

Who would the Americans borrow money from to fight China and Russia? There is no way the U.S economy could sustain an all out straight fight with either of these countries and still maintain their economy. It doesn't matter how much more technologically advanced their military is if they have no money to spend on it.
Even if the Americans were victorious, they'd have nothing to show for it but trillions in debt (which they already have to show ATM).


my argument is about money not about the difference between a straight fight and a jungle/urban war.

Other European countries would loan us the money after they got sucked into the war, because without us they would lose. Our country didn't have alot of money inWWII our economy was crumbling yet we still were the most dominate force out of the Allies.

Since most of our debt is to China anyways, if we won we might actually come out in less debt then when we went in.

[GiantRobotDelux]

Other European countries would loan us the money after they got sucked into the war, because without us they would lose. Our country didn't have alot of money inWWII our economy was crumbling yet we still were the most dominate force out of the Allies.

Since most of our debt is to China anyways, if we won we might actually come out in less debt then when we went in.


The United States profited off of WW2 by selling the nazis technology and weapons. So I don't buy that. They sold weapons to all sides before they joined the war.

[blevunly]

The United States profited off of WW2 by selling the nazis technology and weapons. So I don't buy that. They sold weapons to all sides before they joined the war.

You don't think countries would want to buy from the most advanced weapons distributor if they were in a world war?

[GiantRobotDelux]

Why pick sides then?

[GiantRobotDelux]

Alright I'm repping you right here and now man cause you're drive is solid man.