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kermitthefrayer
09-06-2007, 05:19 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/060907_hannity_lies.htm

Hannity Lies To Discredit Ron Paul After Debate
Claims "Paulites" flood voted to skew text poll, yet only one vote per phone number was allowed

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, September 6, 2007


Fox News and Sean Hannity tried to discredit Ron Paul last night after the latest debate by claiming the Texas Congressman's runaway success in the subsequent text messaging poll was due to "Paulites" flood voting, when in fact only one vote per phone number was allowed.

Ernest Raposa, a viewer in New Bedford, MA, decided to text in his support for Ron Paul and received a message back stating, "FOX News UVOTE: Thank you for voting! Watch Hannity & Colmes for the results."

"As the show progressed, it became obvious, as we have seen previously, that Ron Paul had the most support, hovering around 33 per cent," writes Raposa. "Around 11:25pm EST Hannity declared that though Ron Paul had DOUBLE the support of the tied for second place Giuliani and Huckabee it was clear that the "Paulites" were simply dialing in over and over again, devaluing his lead."

Aiming to test Hannity's theory, Raposa attempted to text in a second vote for Ron Paul from the same cellphone. He received a message back saying, "You have already voted on tonight's debate. Thank you for your participation."

Only one vote per cellphone was allowed, therefore Hannity's contention that Ron Paul supporters were "were simply dialing in over and over again" was nothing more than a brazen lie intended to dismiss the Congressman's widespread popularity. No one at Fox News bothered to correct Hannity and no retraction was issued.

Here's the nuts and bolts in a You Tube clip.

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Debunkers continually claim that Paul's success in text message and internet polls is merely a result of a small group of supporters zealously "spamming" or "flooding" the polls when in fact votes are limited to one per IP address and one per cellphone number.

Such dirty tactics from Neo-Con stooge Hannity and Fox News were merely a continuation of Fox's policy to attack Ron Paul throughout the broadcast.

Despite the fact that the New Hampshire audience broke out in spontaneous wild applause at almost everything the Congressman said, Fox News deliberately boosted the microphones of the other candidates when Paul was speaking, making sure the snickers of Giuliani, Romney and the rest were clearly audible.

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Establishment darlings were once again afforded shed loads more time and even nobodies like Huckabee and Brownback got twice the amount of questions compared to the Congressman. Paul got the chance to answer just three direct questions in a 90 minute debate.

Fox News moderators weighed in with glee in an attempt to ruffle, smear and sidetrack Ron Paul. His first question revolved around a purposeful misquote of the Congressman's position on allowing pilots to be armed and it only went downhill from there.

"The second question though revealed the unbelievable bias of Fox News," writes Anthony Wade. "In response to a question about Iraq and troops, Paul reiterated that we needed to pull the troops home, period. He has consistently said that we need to address the entire foreign policy and start protecting our own borders and our own country. In response to the false notion that there would be a “bloodbath” if we just pulled out, Paul quickly reminded everyone that the same people speculating that there would be a bloodbath are the same people who said Iraq would be a “cakewalk” and a “slam dunk.” He then correctly pointed out the faulty logic that says we need to stay for stability when it is widely reported that our presence on the Arabian Peninsula is what prompted the attacks of 911. The response from Chris Wallace was to pose his own follow up question which was, “So you are saying you would take your marching orders from al Qaeda?”

"Are you kidding me? The inherent bias in the question was disgusting during a debate forum and Chris Wallace revealed himself as nothing but a whore for the machine and not a credible newsperson. Thankfully, Dr. Paul was up to the task by responding that he would take his marching orders from the Constitution."

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The last question was another manufactured "hypothetical" in which Iran had nukes and was threatening to use them on Israel. Fox News were sure to go to Ron Paul first in order to have the other candidates gang up on him after.

As soon as the debate was over, Giuliani and Hannity were busy attempting to mock Congressman Paul with more sophomoric barbs.

The desperation of the Neo-Cons and the establishment to ridicule Ron Paul again highlights the sheer terror that they are experiencing in light of the fact that a real candidate communicating about real issues is putting the rest of the shills to shame.

By continuing to smear, lie about and dismiss the Congressman, Hannity, Fox and their ilk are nervously praying that they can keep the lid on the Ron Paul Revolution and prevent the Texan from breaking into the vaunted "top tier" and obliterating the bought and paid for competition.

Evil
09-06-2007, 10:30 PM
Ron was awsome in that debate, but getting rid of the CIA... how does he expect to keep us safe from Alqueada and other Islamic extremists who clearly want to destroy America... and don't give me any of that "if we were not in the middle east they wouldn't hate us" bull shit. Alqueada wants us dead because ITS THEIR RELIGION, there doesn't have to be a good reason...

blevunly
09-07-2007, 03:18 AM
Ron was awsome in that debate, but getting rid of the CIA... how does he expect to keep us safe from Alqueada and other Islamic extremists who clearly want to destroy America... and don't give me any of that "if we were not in the middle east they wouldn't hate us" bull shit. Alqueada wants us dead because ITS THEIR RELIGION, there doesn't have to be a good reason...

Your still refusing to believe the 911 commissions report

Evil
09-07-2007, 05:26 AM
Your still refusing to believe the 911 commissions report

So Alqueada and Iran are no threat at all?

ninjashoes
09-07-2007, 09:01 AM
RON PAUL PWNS

Evil
09-07-2007, 05:52 PM
So Alqueada and Iran are no threat at all?

What say you Ron Paul supporters? I really want to like him but I can get over his weak stance on national security. This isn't 1787 we can't sit back and defend the homeland when all our enimies have to do is push a button. Our founding fathers couldn't have imagined intercontinental ballistic missiles or sleeper cells, we must addapt.

blevunly
09-08-2007, 01:28 AM
So Alqueada and Iran are no threat at all?

They are right now. Because of our current foreign policy. They hate us because we are on their holy land and because we support Isreal. Elimante these things and it strongly decreases the amount of hate america recieves from middle eastern countries.

yousayunclenow
09-08-2007, 03:06 AM
They are right now. Because of our current foreign policy. They hate us because we are on their holy land and because we support Isreal. Elimante these things and it strongly decreases the amount of hate america recieves from middle eastern countries.

Isn't it a lose lose situation, I want the foreign policy changed as well. I always wondered, say we get out and the heat calms down, and another attack happens. Would it start becoming a revolving door? I don't think Bush can say "Well people in the Middle East, I dun fucked up" and everything will stop. Getting out would be a important step, but I wonder what will keep us from going down that horrible road Bush lead us to.

ninjashoes
09-08-2007, 07:10 AM
Ron was awsome in that debate, but getting rid of the CIA... how does he expect to keep us safe from Alqueada and other Islamic extremists who clearly want to destroy America... and don't give me any of that "if we were not in the middle east they wouldn't hate us" bull shit. Alqueada wants us dead because ITS THEIR RELIGION, there doesn't have to be a good reason...

I get what your saying but the CIA basically created the terrorist in one of their rise and fall power games.

ItBurnzWhenIP
09-08-2007, 07:40 AM
CIA didn't create them by any shot Ninja... All they did was train them in Afghan to fight the soviets. And did a hell of a job at it too. The original problem they have with us is what we and the Brits did at the end of WWII sending the Jews back to the holy land. (For the record Palestine is a lie, there was never a group of people called Palestinians - they were egyptians and Jordanians, they became Palestinians to try to turn world sentiment against the jews) Even had we not done that the extreme, Fundamentalist Islamists would turn on us. Our culture is beamed into their homes and their worlds via satellite all day long and that interferes with their view of the world. Just by existing the western world has and always will be their enemy because it corrupts Islamic values and makes Muhammed cry. Oh and they take the whole - spread the religion by the sword completely literally. There is a reason that there have been several Arab invasions into Europe throughout history.

That reason? Spread Islam throughout the world by any means necessary and force all into submission before god.

Evil
09-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Just by existing the western world has and always will be their enemy because it corrupts Islamic values and makes Muhammed cry.


:yes:



Once people really understand this they need to take a step from their blind hate of George Bush and THINK about actual long term solutions to the problem. Running away and admitting defeat in Iraq will only force us into a position of weakness and guarantee more attacks from Alqueada.

blevunly
09-08-2007, 05:41 PM
:yes:



Once people really understand this they need to take a step from their blind hate of George Bush and THINK about actual long term solutions to the problem. Running away and admitting defeat in Iraq will only force us into a position of weakness and guarantee more attacks from Alqueada.

I agree with going after Al Queda, but Iraq was not linked to Al Queda. Therefor I don't see how pulling out of a country that had nothing to do with the attacks on September 11th supports the people who attacked us on Sepember 11th. I think if we stopped the search for Osama that would show that we had given up. But stopping a war that was started on false pretences does not show cowardess from the US.

blevunly
09-08-2007, 05:43 PM
Isn't it a lose lose situation, I want the foreign policy changed as well. I always wondered, say we get out and the heat calms down, and another attack happens. Would it start becoming a revolving door? I don't think Bush can say "Well people in the Middle East, I dun fucked up" and everything will stop. Getting out would be a important step, but I wonder what will keep us from going down that horrible road Bush lead us to.

If another attack happens we go after the attacker we don't waste our time invading a country that had nothing to do with it. I agree with hunting Osama, but not the Iraq war.

blevunly
09-08-2007, 05:51 PM
CIA didn't create them by any shot Ninja... All they did was train them in Afghan to fight the soviets. And did a hell of a job at it too. The original problem they have with us is what we and the Brits did at the end of WWII sending the Jews back to the holy land. (For the record Palestine is a lie, there was never a group of people called Palestinians - they were egyptians and Jordanians, they became Palestinians to try to turn world sentiment against the jews) Even had we not done that the extreme, Fundamentalist Islamists would turn on us. Our culture is beamed into their homes and their worlds via satellite all day long and that interferes with their view of the world. Just by existing the western world has and always will be their enemy because it corrupts Islamic values and makes Muhammed cry. Oh and they take the whole - spread the religion by the sword completely literally. There is a reason that there have been several Arab invasions into Europe throughout history.

That reason? Spread Islam throughout the world by any means necessary and force all into submission before god.

They don't all believe that. Extremist set a bad image for the whole religion. Just because a few (compared to the many in the religion.) decide to go about things in a violent way doesn't mean everyone feels the same.

ninjashoes
09-09-2007, 01:44 AM
CIA didn't create them by any shot Ninja... All they did was train them in Afghan to fight the soviets.


I disagree that "we didnt creat them by any shot"

http://www.greenleft.org.au/2001/465/25199

These camps, now dubbed “terrorist universities” by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers.

Tom Carew, a former British SAS soldier who secretly fought for the mujaheddin told the August 13, 2000, British Observer, “The Americans were keen to teach the Afghans the techniques of urban terrorism — car bombing and so on — so that they could strike at the Russians in major towns ... Many of them are now using their knowledge and expertise to wage war on everything they hate.”


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And did a hell of a job at it too. The original problem they have with us is what we and the Brits did at the end of WWII sending the Jews back to the holy land. (For the record Palestine is a lie, there was never a group of people called Palestinians - they were egyptians and Jordanians, they became Palestinians to try to turn world sentiment against the jews) Even had we not done that the extreme, Fundamentalist Islamists would turn on us. Our culture is beamed into their homes and their worlds via satellite all day long and that interferes with their view of the world. Just by existing the western world has and always will be their enemy because it corrupts Islamic values and makes Muhammed cry. Oh and they take the whole - spread the religion by the sword completely literally. There is a reason that there have been several Arab invasions into Europe throughout history.

That reason? Spread Islam throughout the world by any means necessary and force all into submission before god.

And the Europeans killed Muslims and Jews just as much, they also invaded and killed eachother for thousands of years many times without the influence of religeon.

meepins
10-23-2007, 06:38 PM
Ron was awsome in that debate, but getting rid of the CIA... how does he expect to keep us safe from Alqueada and other Islamic extremists who clearly want to destroy America... and don't give me any of that "if we were not in the middle east they wouldn't hate us" bull shit. Alqueada wants us dead because ITS THEIR RELIGION, there doesn't have to be a good reason...
Dismantling the CIA I think would be a good move. They have shown repeatedly how inept they are. Not only are they inept, the CIA is corrupt to the bones and has been heavily involved in drug trafficking for decades.

This isn't 1787 we can't sit back and defend the homeland when all our enimies have to do is push a button. Our founding fathers couldn't have imagined intercontinental ballistic missiles or sleeper cells, we must adapt.
Correctomundo dood.