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kermitthefrayer
08-02-2007, 07:30 AM
Videos of FEMA enslavement camps

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http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm

FEMA camps

New executive orders and meanings

Executive Order Number


Meaning

10900


Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.

10995


Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

10997


Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

10998


Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

11000


Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

11001


Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.

11002


Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.

11003


Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

11004


Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

11005


Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

11051


Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

11310


Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

11049


Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

11921


Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA's ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. The only people that were allowed to enter the premises were ones who had a red Christian cross on their shirt. The exercise required the following.....

*

Suspension of the Constitution of the United States
*

Turning control of the government over to FEMA
*

Appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments
*

Declaration of Martial Law

So how much money goes into an organization like this? Well it has been discovered that FEMA has a quasi-billion dollar budget. However, about 6% of that budget goes into the relief effort. So why is it that they need so much money? Ever wonder where the President goes when it's said he is in a "secure location"? Well most of the time that location is a secret government complex built into a mountain. It is called Mt. Weather.

There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps
located in southern California. His findings are as follows:
Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites and wanted to see them for ourselves.

The first one we observed was in Palmdale, California. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility. Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners? The fences that run for miles around this large facility all point inward, and there are large mounds of dirt and dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from the road. There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading?

We observed white vans patrolling the area and one came out and greeted us with a friendly wave and followed us until we had driven safely beyond the area. What would have happened had we decided to enter the open gate or ask questions?

This facility is across the street from the Palmdale Water Department. The area around the Water Department has fences pointing outward, to keep people out of this dangerous area so as not to drown. Yet, across the street, the fences all point inward. Why? To keep people in? What people? Who are going to be it’s occupants?

There are also signs posted every 50 feet stating: State of California Trespassing Loitering Forbidden By Law Section 555 California Penal Code.

The sign at the entrance says: Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East. There is also a guard shack located at the entrance.

We didn’t venture into this facility, but did circle around it to see if there was anything else visible from the road. We saw miles of fences with the top points all directed inward. There is a railroad track that runs next to the perimeter of this fenced area. The loading docks are large enough to hold railroad cars.

I wonder what they are planning for this facility? They could easily fit 100,000 people in this area. And who would the occupants be?

Another site is located in Brand Park in Glendale. There are newly constructed fences (all outfitted with new wiring that point inward). The fences surround a dry reservoir. There are also new buildings situated in the area. We questioned the idea that there were four armed military personnel walking the park. Since when does a public park need armed guards?

A third site visited was in the San Fernando Valley, adjacent to the Water District. Again, the area around the actual Water District had fences logically pointing out (to keep people out of the dangerous area). And the rest of the adjacent area which went on for several miles was ringed with fences and barbed wire facing inward (to keep what or who in?) Also, interesting was the fact that the addition to the tops of the fences were fairly new as to not even contain any sign of rust on them. Within the grounds was a huge building that the guard said was a training range for policemen. There were newly constructed roads, new gray military looking buildings, and a landing strip. For what? Police cars were constantly patrolling the several mile perimeter of the area.

From the parking lot of the Odyssey Restaurant a better view could be taken of the area that was hidden from site from the highway. There was an area that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. Would these be of that nature? From our position it was hard to determine.

In searching the Internet, I have discovered that there are about 600 of these prison sites around the country (and more literally popping up overnight do they work all night). They are manned, but yet do not contain prisoners. Why do they need all these non-operating prisons? What are they waiting for? We continuously hear that our current prisons are overcrowded and they are releasing prisoners because of this situation. But what about all these facilities? What are they really for? Why are there armed guards yet no one to protect themselves against? And what is going to be the kick-off point to put these facilities into operation?

What would bring about a situation that would call into effect the need for these new prison facilities? A man-made or natural catastrophe? An earthquake, panic due to Y2K, a massive poisoning, a panic of such dimensions to cause nationwide panic?

Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured event does not matter) Martial Law is hurriedly put in place and we are all in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what’s really going on? Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth?

When first coming across this information I was in a state of total denial. How could this be? I believed our country was free, and always felt a sense of comfort in knowing that as long as we didn’t hurt others in observing our freedom we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise.

It took an intensive year of searching into the hidden politics to discover that we are as free as we believe we are. If we are in denial, we don’t see the signs that are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy with all the mundane affairs of daily life.

We just don’t care enough to find out the real truth, and settle for the hand-fed stories that come our way over the major media sources television, radio, newspaper, and magazines. But it’s too late to turn back to the days of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality is becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we will be the ones asking "What happened to our freedom? To our free speech? To our right to protect ourselves and our family? To think as an individual? To express ourselves in whatever way we wish?"

Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are. How many are willing to take up that challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn’t find ourselves in the situation that we are in at the present time. We wouldn’t have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public and into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their control no matter what it takes, and that includes the use of force and detainment for those that ask the wrong questions.

Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several instances have recently been reported where those that were asking questions that came too near the untold truth (the cover up) were removed from the press conferences and from the public’s ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were detained and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, slaughtered (through make-believe suicides) or discredited.

Why are we all in denial over these possibilities? Didn’t we hear about prison camps in Germany, and even in the United States during World War II? Japanese individuals were rounded up and placed in determent camps during the duration of the War. Where was their freedom?

You don’t think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could happen to them either. How could decent people have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened to this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let it happen?



U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS - FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM

lancaster
08-02-2007, 08:41 AM
Kermit, you seem pretty concerned by all new laws that reduce your freedoms and increase the powers of your government. Just curious, but why are you still there? Are you planning on emigrating soon?

yousayunclenow
08-02-2007, 10:23 AM
Kermit, you seem pretty concerned by all new laws that reduce your freedoms and increase the powers of your government. Just curious, but why are you still there? Are you planning on emigrating soon?

Kermit will be the "John Conner" when the U.S. becomes a dicatorship! War Kermit!!!!!!

kermitthefrayer
08-02-2007, 03:58 PM
Kermit will be the "John Conner" when the U.S. becomes a dicatorship! War Kermit!!!!!!

Dam straight me and Alex Jones are at war for your mind.

I will not leave a country I love to wait for the same thing to happen again. It's going on globally. London, England is already the most watched place on Earth with 4 million plus cameras. If they come to my place for me and my family they better wear their kevlar underpants because I would rather die fighting than be a human slave or give my self up willingly to be killed in a FEMA death camp.

PoIsON KaRaSu
08-03-2007, 12:12 AM
Dam straight me and Alex Jones are at war for your mind.

I will not leave a country I love to wait for the same thing to happen again. It's going on globally. London, England is already the most watched place on Earth with 4 million plus cameras. If they come to my place for me and my family they better wear their kevlar underpants because I would rather die fighting than be a human slave or give me self up willingly to be killed in a FEMA death camp.

plus 100
bring it on :popcorn: :sifone:

TapOut136
08-05-2007, 06:03 AM
Dam straight me and Alex Jones are at war for your mind.

I will not leave a country I love to wait for the same thing to happen again. It's going on globally. London, England is already the most watched place on Earth with 4 million plus cameras. If they come to my place for me and my family they better wear their kevlar underpants because I would rather die fighting than be a human slave or give my self up willingly to be killed in a FEMA death camp.


Two things: First, it's interesting that you think you know what is actually going on. Second, you must have a strange belief about you're own self-worth if you plan to stop the American government from doing anything with physical force. Not much of a war strategy really...

kermitthefrayer
08-05-2007, 07:20 AM
It's called dying for what you believe in. So if you want to be a human slave submit be my guest. All I can so for now is enjoy your freedom while you have it.

If this doesn't mean anything to you and frighten you I don't know what to say...

Executive Order Number


Meaning

10900


Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.

10995


Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

10997


Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

10998


Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

11000


Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

11001


Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.

11002


Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.

11003


Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

11004


Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

11005


Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

11051


Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

11310


Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

11049


Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

11921


Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA's ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. The only people that were allowed to enter the premises were ones who had a red Christian cross on their shirt. The exercise required the following.....

*

Suspension of the Constitution of the United States
*

Turning control of the government over to FEMA

TapOut136
08-06-2007, 12:35 AM
So my attempt to engage your seemingly suspect opinion about relative personal value was meet with Spam? Interesting if not totally mindless and exceedingly pedantic.

You should be fighting until you die right now, seriously. Why the fuck are you waiting. CCTV is coming to major cities, sneak and peek warrants are already here; your phone is mostly likely tapped. What are you waiting for? Go fight this oppression like you said you would until your dying breath. Instead, you're posting on an Internet forum... Hard to believe this is your idea of a fight to the death to avoid human slavery (to use your own words).

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 06:20 AM
And you are sitting there putting the people away from the American government. The government of this country is meant to be it's people. the government should be afraid of it's people not the other way around. When the public servants become the masters you have tyranny. But if no one knows what's happening around them how can they be aware and have a chance to fight back, to make a change, to give the country back to whom it belongs the people. You know "WE THE PEOPLE"???

Hence INFOWARS. I'm trying to inform people of what is going on. Even if you know about this stuff, it doesn't mean other people in this community do. If more people know about this stuff more people can get angry and be ready to do something now politically as an activist and a patriot voter or something more drastic if and when the time comes. So if the major media outlets are fronts feeding everyone lies I'm here to try and inform people of what's really going on around them.

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 06:27 AM
Sorry double post.

TapOut136
08-06-2007, 07:05 AM
Can't disagree with anything you said. However, nothing you said is in any way a reply to my questions. Education and communication is important. But you've already taken things further by advocating violence in the form of giving up your life for the cause of fighting current oppressive measures. Either its rhetoric or its action. But simply making loud noises and threatening people is easy, sensational, and lends itself to hyperbole and doublethink.

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 07:09 AM
I not trying to make loud noises I'm trying to get sheepeople to wake up so they can get organized and take a stand and protest and vote while we still can before it leads to having to either leave your family or home or those thing being taken away from you or die protecting them.

TapOut136
08-06-2007, 07:43 AM
I not trying to make loud noises I'm trying to get sheepeople to wake up so they can get organized and take a stand and protest and vote while we still can before it leads to having to either leave your family or home or those thing being taken away from you or die protecting them.

What evidence do you have that you can do any of those things? If you tell most people they need to change their lives right now to save themselves from the "police state" the best reaction you're likely to get is a blank stare. Other people who have immigrated from actual police states in Eastern Europe or Asia; or simply having read authors like Czesław Miłosz or Orwell will be utterly convinced that you have no idea what you're talking about. The people that don't care are too apathetic to listen regardless. The people that do care already know better. Telling people they need to violently oppose their government before it ruins their lives is, in fact, a reactionary form of terrorism. What you're describing is agenda driven paranoia.

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 03:26 PM
What evidence do you have that you can do any of those things? If you tell most people they need to change their lives right now to save themselves from the "police state" the best reaction you're likely to get is a blank stare. Other people who have immigrated from actual police states in Eastern Europe or Asia; or simply having read authors like Czesław Miłosz or Orwell will be utterly convinced that you have no idea what you're talking about. The people that don't care are too apathetic to listen regardless. The people that do care already know better. Telling people they need to violently oppose their government before it ruins their lives is, in fact, a reactionary form of terrorism. What you're describing is agenda driven paranoia.

Are fucking insane!!! This country was founded on revolution against it's government. So you saying since most people don't know what I'm talking about and or don't care that I shouldn't use my right of free speech and try and educate people????

You are twisting my words I'm trying create activists before my right to spread information is taken away. And how dare you call me a terrorist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Terrorism is a term used to describe unlawful violence or other unlawful harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians by groups or persons for political or other ideological goals.[1] Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target non-combatants.

I don't kill innocent people to further my agenda. Just because things I say might scare people does not mean I am using Terrorism. You sound like them man if you disagree with the government then you must be a terrorist. WTF? Don't you think people who are killing 3000+ of our own to further their political agenda should be the ones on trial here???

You won't actually dispute and of the facts I post you just attack me personally?

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 03:33 PM
Can't disagree with anything you said. However, nothing you said is in any way a reply to my questions. Education and communication is important. But you've already taken things further by advocating violence in the form of giving up your life for the cause of fighting current oppressive measures. Either its rhetoric or its action. But simply making loud noises and threatening people is easy, sensational, and lends itself to hyperbole and doublethink.


And what questions did you even ask me????

kermitthefrayer
08-06-2007, 03:41 PM
On top of all of that. You tell me what the 800 FEMA camps around the USA with barbed wire facing in and electronic finger print turn styles at the entrances are for? Why do they have arrival gates marked simply RED and BLUE areas just like NAZI concentration camps??? Why are they there what are they for?????

meepins
08-06-2007, 04:29 PM
On top of all of that. You tell me what the 800 FEMA camps around the USA with barbed wire facing in and electronic finger print turn styles at the entrances are for? Why do they have arrival gates marked simply RED and BLUE areas just like NAZI concentration camps??? Why are they there what are they for?????
My opinion? There could be any number of explanation which will be half right. Corrupt expenditure, giving money to 'friendly' corporations for unnecessary infastructure.
Certain people wanting to use it to intern illegal immigrants and deport them or worse.
Wild speculation from crackpot , agenda driven websites sure aren't going to find out the truth. They will keep distorting things to suit themselves.

TapOut136
08-07-2007, 02:26 AM
Are fucking insane!!! This country was founded on revolution against it's government. So you saying since most people don't know what I'm talking about and or don't care that I shouldn't use my right of free speech and try and educate people????

You are twisting my words I'm trying create activists before my right to spread information is taken away. And how dare you call me a terrorist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Terrorism is a term used to describe unlawful violence or other unlawful harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians by groups or persons for political or other ideological goals.[1] Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target non-combatants.

I don't kill innocent people to further my agenda. Just because things I say might scare people does not mean I am using Terrorism. You sound like them man if you disagree with the government then you must be a terrorist. WTF? Don't you think people who are killing 3000+ of our own to further their political agenda should be the ones on trial here???

You won't actually dispute and of the facts I post you just attack me personally?


The threat of violence for political purpose fits some of the more widely accepted definitions of terrorism. You've already said you want to die in a violent struggle against government oppression. Why aren't you dead? The police state should have already killed you if what you claim is true. And yet, you're still here...

Evil
08-07-2007, 02:37 AM
Theres nothing we can do now we let the government get to big. Vote and hope for the best... or you could always kill yourself.

kermitthefrayer
08-07-2007, 04:15 PM
The threat of violence for political purpose fits some of the more widely accepted definitions of terrorism. You've already said you want to die in a violent struggle against government oppression. Why aren't you dead? The police state should have already killed you if what you claim is true. And yet, you're still here...

They haven't come to my house to take me and my family to forced labor or death camps have they? You keep purposely over looking my first suggestion and going straight to what you consider to be negative and crazy.

And I say people should organize and inform and fight back via protest and voting before its too late. And of course you are going to dispute my encyclopedia definition of terrorism. Stop being a tool all of your efforts to flame me still don't stop the fact that the government need to be publicly regulated before we all become labor slaves and 100% of income is tax.

kermitthefrayer
08-07-2007, 04:16 PM
Theres nothing we can do now we let the government get to big. Vote and hope for the best... or you could always kill yourself.

So you are saying we should kick back and watch everything get worse and die.

blevunly
08-07-2007, 06:13 PM
So you are saying we should kick back and watch everything get worse and die.

And your solution would be what? A civil war?

meepins
08-07-2007, 06:48 PM
And your solution would be what? A civil war?
No man, his solution is to post great links all day long to infowars! YEAH!

kermitthefrayer
08-07-2007, 10:19 PM
No man, his solution is to post great links all day long to infowars! YEAH!

Again you don't know me. Or what I have studied on any of these subjects. And I suppose you are going to lay down all of your rights for "security"?

How can we progress at all if no one is informed? You are still making personal attacks on me and not disproving any of the points I have brought up? All you have been able to do is post up the first thing you googled or throw insults around.

Raising awareness is best and almost the almost the only thing I can besides voting. All I'm doing is trying to get other people interested and motivated to use their free speech, organize, speak out against, peacefully protest ect. So some people will do the same and encourage discussion of important issues, not how long Paris Hilton is going to jail for.

kermitthefrayer
08-08-2007, 03:55 AM
Well I feel I have given enough to the discussion to prove your little website is not any sort of useful source for news, whereas you have offered nothing but irrelevant points and questions.
As for the insults, well I need to entertain myself and anyone else reading and there is little malice in what I have dished so far. I could be more acerbic if I am so moved.

You say I don't read outside of Alex Jones how about the official white house website?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060331.html

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I could go on but what ever....

Evil
08-09-2007, 10:49 PM
So you are saying we should kick back and watch everything get worse and die.

yes

Adz
08-16-2007, 01:00 PM
nostradamus predicted the coming of the USA and toward the end of its existance it would turn into a militry controlled government.

better take advantage of your freedom while ya still can america.