Kyokushin Karate And Judo

[loui_ludwig]

I want to take tradional martial arts, are JJ and judo both good tma?

[ninjashoes]

Judo is an awesome martial art for mma, combine some striking and a little extra practice on subs and you have an awesome pakage

[TsukinoKage]

That combo will get you great body conditioning (taking hits), as well as awesome throws, body shots and kicks.

You might still need to work on your boxing and BJJ though, depending on the school.

[ocular]

Agreed.

[loui_ludwig]

Thanx for ur replys/advice.

[Resin]

take boxing lessons for better foot work.

[Fantouz]

That's a decent combination. I would also consider some No-Gi BJJ or freestyle submission wrestling.
The main thing with submissions is positioning, judo will provide you with a solid foundation for that.

[reddragon454]

judo, great takedowns decent ground work, karate is garbage unless you are going for kyoshukin

[wangmaster]

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Judo is an awesome martial art for mma, combine some striking and a little extra practice on subs and you have an awesome pakage
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that's what i'm talkin bout...start off in kickboxing and move into a refined muay thai

[-Tetra-]

Watch out for cung le, that fuckers crazy.

[alpha82425]

BJJ is really practical and easy to learn...krav manga is also good for street situations (hopefully u will never have to use it though...)

[priest180]

Judo is an excellent base for MMA, if you can't train Greco

[Crazy Jab]

Go for grappling arts first they're harder to learn.

[Willydeezle]

i know kung foo

[mrblack]

I say learn a striking and a Grappling at the same time, I do and i've found it works.

[openfist]

If you are going for traditional why not find a traditional Muay Thai School and combine that with some BJJ if you want the whole "traditional aspect". Kyokushin/Judo would work. Pretty much any combination of Striking + Grappling/throwing/Subs etc that provides good training will work together. Find something you like.

[mattmanbass]

there both decent for mma

[Trax416]

Boxing and Judo.

[Trax416]

Go modern and learn some BJJ also.!

[Juno]

Kyokushin and Judo will get you very good in competition very quickly, provided you have good sparring partners. You may have to get a boxing coach though, as KK spars no headshots.

The thing is though, in amatuer MMA competition, a lot of times there are no headshots either, so the throws combined with kicks you get with KK+ J will do you well.

[Tetra]

Or you could just have sex with superman and sue him for half his powers for sexual abuse.

[Tetra]

i Can Make You Satisfied In Everything You Do.

[hvi77]

try some no gi bjj to

[ninjashoes]

Judo is the best for breakin falls as well as dishing them out

[The Fire]

BJJ is the best for subs.

[Goodkidcc]

Judo is the best for throws and submission transitions from the feet.

[loui_ludwig]

I just want to thank everyone for all the advice.

[robz]

id like to take judo

[leebyun]

Sanshou is good for standup and takedowns..then BJJ for ground

[Chickenjorge]

i dont think the boxing footwork will help you out in mma. it's totally different because of the kicks. so if you have a boxing stance and get get in the leg you'd probably lose your balance.

so ill have to dissagree with teh hesin on that one.

but other than that. judo and Kyokushin would be a bad ass combo, now you'd have to add little pieces from a lot of other things to become more well rounded. but that'd be a great base for anyone.

[Tom Stall]

judo is good for upperbody takedowns. most judo guys aren't good at straight wrestling or thats not their strong suit

[Doherty45]

Judo for stand up transition and BJJ for strait ground work.

[mmabiker]

judo is the best much better than wrestling

[thatguy32]

Does Kosen Judo cover throws and takedowns along with newaza or do they just focus mainly on ground work?? And wasnt Masutatsu Oyama a black belt in Judo?? Is there any throws in Kyokushin?

[leonardov11]

Just my two cents:


If you realy want to learn a mixed martial art package in one "Kajukenbo" is for you.

You get karate, kenpo, jujitsu, and boxing all wrapped up in to one......

From the newbie guy...:google:

[Shin^]

Jujutsu is good if you have a good teacher and you do realistic sparring.

Judo is very good of course becouse it's ground game is very similar to bjj and has very good takedowns and helps you get comfortable standing up.

For striking kyokushin based karate styles are all good but of course so is muay thai which is a traditional ma as well.

[Shin^]

Does Kosen Judo cover throws and takedowns along with newaza or do they just focus mainly on ground work?? And wasnt Masutatsu Oyama a black belt in Judo?? Is there any throws in Kyokushin?

Throws and takedowns are an important part of Kosen judo as well but compared to kodokan they focus a lot more in newaza.

Oyama was a 3.dan black belt in judo.
In my understanding throws are a part of kyokushin as well but the original kyokushin fights doesn't really use them in competition.
Ashihara (originated from kyokushin) has at least few of them in use.

Anyway, it's quite common for a karate black belt in Japan to have a black belt in judo as well so there might not be too much concentration on the throws in kyokushin.

Daidojuku kyokushin fighters seem to have quite good knowledge of throws. Daidojuku is still a minor part of kyokushin so it doesn't mean much.

[thatguy32]

Throws and takedowns are an important part of Kosen judo as well but compared to kodokan they focus a lot more in newaza.

Oyama was a 3.dan black belt in judo.
In my understanding throws are a part of kyokushin as well but the original kyokushin fights doesn't really use them in competition.
Ashihara (originated from kyokushin) has at least few of them in use.

Anyway, it's quite common for a karate black belt in Japan to have a black belt in judo as well so there might not be too much concentration on the throws in kyokushin.

Daidojuku kyokushin fighters seem to have quite good knowledge of throws. Daidojuku is still a minor part of kyokushin so it doesn't mean much.
cool , thanks for the awnser

[Shin^]

You're welcome :)

[loui_ludwig]

Wow, my thread is still alive.

Not practicing any martial arts now due to my job as a mailman.

[kermitthefrayer]

i know kung foo

STFU NEWB I really Gung Fu.