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No America was founded on immigration.

I hear style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/telephone.gif that it is a logistical impossibility to securely style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hunter.gif close the northern border. Just from the size and terrain it's not feasible. When the U.S. put walls at popular border crossings on the south border people desperate to work style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/download.gif crossed the desert to do so. Many were unsuccessful in doing so and the bodies style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skull.gif are being collected as I type. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/suicide.gif

If the current law making it illegal to hire illegal aliens was enforced to the point that it was not profitable to hire them, there would be no need to close any borders.

Security checkpoints style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stop.gif would still be needed to protect from terrorists style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bomb.gif but there would be soo many less crossings that border security style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pogranichnik.gif would be immensely easier.

Absolutely not... How can I go gambling in Windsor if the border is closed?

I like politics but i've learened not to get involved with them.

uyty

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bruce Lee @ Jun 14 2006, 02:34 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Absolutely not... How can I go gambling in Windsor if the border is closed?
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we already have enough of them, just dont allow any new ones in

Very creative post TBA.

yes

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gtpjim @ Jun 15 2006, 09:18 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
yes
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You suck at posting. Trying to get to the fights?

Yep...we should protect our borders.
Can't be letting people sneaking here illegally, while people wait 10 years in line to do it legit.
Also, not securing our borders would make it easier for Terrorists to come into America.

The borders should be secured but not completly closed there should be walls built and national guard stationed on the border.Instead of worring about who is trying to sneak over now they should consider going after all the construction sites and convience stores etc. that hire these people and put them out of business.Any person that would like to live in America has the right to try and come here I would love to move to Canada or Amsterdam and if they were to say no our country is closed to you people I would be offended. The world should have no barriers no discrimination people should seek out what they want and have an opportunity to achieve it.

I think people overestimate the amount of terrorist's that sneak over the border,for the most part terrorist are here legally for a number of years through student visas and thing of that nature living among us acting like our friends until the one day they put forth their jihad. terrorist are much more calculated and patient than people give them credit for,their will not be another attack for atleast a couple years and then boom something huge will happen just as random as 911

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rdrvgs @ Jun 13 2006, 08:44 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
No America was founded on immigration.
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Yes. America was founed on LEGAL immigration.

The borders should be closed to those who are trying to JUMP it - not those who follow the process.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Fire Zouave @ Jun 16 2006, 11:03 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes. America was founed on LEGAL immigration.

The borders should be closed to those who are trying to JUMP it - not those who follow the process.
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It was only legal in the beginning because the natives were not equipt to stop the immigration.

we dont have borders

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nzjujitsu @ Jun 16 2006, 06:17 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
we dont have borders
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Do you at least have a Barnes and Noble?

"think people overestimate the amount of terrorist's that sneak over the border,for the most part terrorist are here legally for a number of years through student visas and thing of that nature living among us acting like our friends until the one day they put forth their jihad. terrorist are much more calculated and patient than people give them credit for,their will not be another attack for atleast a couple years and then boom something huge will happen just as random as 911"

Well put. I do not want to state my opinion on this subject because it is too complex to be debated in a yes or no or short answer format. Although, I will say that absolutes and "logic" have no place in politics because they are contrary to what modern politics consist of.

illegals should be shipped straight back to their home countries, no benefits given.

The US needs immigrants and the poorer the better. How else is the US going to maintain an army? The US has made it clear that this so called terror war is going to last for the remainder of your life's. Its not as if US citizens are flaw-king to the recruitment offices and who can blame them.

Especially since you may be asked to us DU munitions in combat. I think I'd rather chop my own leg off at the knee. No No I know I'd rather render myself a cripple.

The immigrants are either going to be used as cheap labour and or as soldiers ( AKA cannon fodder ).


Eventually the draft will pass and this time around women aren't excluded from the draft. So your sisters and girlfriend are all fair game. Plus once your enlisted the US president can hold you in service until you 50 something years old.

Do you guys know if Rocky was a jew?

touchy subject...i understand the problems with illegals...but the government should not close the boarders...rather they should sponsor programs that will help ppl work legally...but that means raising taxes...which leads into another subject...

Yes, build a wall across our southern border, since the vast majority of our illegals came across there.

It's just not logistically feasable to close the borders...I think what we really need is to cut all the red tape for legal immigrants...if it didn't take 5 years to get over here legally, there wouldn't be so many people coming over illegally!

Anyone who actually believes that the reasources needed to absolutly secure the borders exist is mistaken.

i say yes, build the wall

start enforcing the law, and deport the illegals u catch to the bottom of mexico instead of 3 feet on the other side of the border, that might keep them from coming back so soon

Yes, keep em out.

Closing borders would neither stop terroroists, nor drugs coming in to America. The truth is, both problems have more money to invest into coming into the states, then the states has to invest in stopping them.

kill whitey.
that is all.

nope, but something has to be done about illegal immigration.

I've heard one side say border-closing is a racist act since USA has no plans to close the Canadian ( look and talk like Americans) border but with the birth rate ajnd influx of Mexicans the US statiscally will be primarily of Mexican ancestry within a generation or two.

I'm Canadian so I don't give a rip.

I just wish that there would be a equal amount of attnetion given to our northern boarder other then the south one. I mean c mon, god damn canadians are getting in the country.....canadians!........

Close them down to illegals...well thats a no brainer! You want to leave here with use, you should pay taxes like the rest of us

there is no way to close them but it would be nice if we could so americans can have jobs

I just wish that there would be a equal amount of attnetion given to our northern boarder other then the south one. I mean c mon, god damn canadians are getting in the country.....canadians!........This is the second time I've seen you go off on our hoser neighbors to the north. Did a canadian take your old lady or something? Was it Steve Nash?

The US needs immigrants and the poorer the better. How else is the US going to maintain an army? The US has made it clear that this so called terror war is going to last for the remainder of your life's. Its not as if US citizens are flaw-king to the recruitment offices and who can blame them.

Especially since you may be asked to us DU munitions in combat. I think I'd rather chop my own leg off at the knee. No No I know I'd rather render myself a cripple.

The immigrants are either going to be used as cheap labour and or as soldiers ( AKA cannon fodder ).


Eventually the draft will pass and this time around women aren't excluded from the draft. So your sisters and girlfriend are all fair game. Plus once your enlisted the US president can hold you in service until you 50 something years old.


hurray for the last of bloodline clause, im exempt!

hurray for the last of bloodline clause, im exempt!

Me too. I forgot about that.

P.S. Don't tell George Dubya. We don't need him changing that too.

Me too. I forgot about that.

P.S. Don't tell George Dubya. We don't need him changing that too.

i wont say shit of you dont.

I work as a night manager at a hotel here in Yuma, for those of you who don't know where Yuma is please look it up. I deal with groups of National Guardsmen, Customs and Border Patrol Agents. A few have confided in me that the "fight" against the border is a lost cause, and money and effort should and would be better used elsewhere. Look I don't agree with illegal imigration, but the fact is we need to better educate our society and push for a better work force.

even if the U.S closed it's borders do you actually think that would stop people from coming here ?? no.. it wouldn't, they would still get in here one way or another because the U.S border patrol cannot cover thousands upon thousands of miles to keep people out.

absolutely fucking yes, close the mother fucking borders. Keep whats here and let no more

Close national and state boarders! I live in Hawaii and its getting crowded as hell in this place.

Land mine seperation between Mexico and US? Just Kidding, dont go crazy on me.

THere should be closed borders Land mine seperation to mexico we have illegal immigrants not paying taxes so it just makes it tougher on everyone else im not rasict i just think its wrong to live over here illegally

I agree. The sooner the better.

I hear style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/telephone.gif that it is a logistical impossibility to securely style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hunter.gif close the northern border. Just from the size and terrain it's not feasible. When the U.S. put walls at popular border crossings on the south border people desperate to work style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/download.gif crossed the desert to do so. Many were unsuccessful in doing so and the bodies style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skull.gif are being collected as I type. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/suicide.gif

If the current law making it illegal to hire illegal aliens was enforced to the point that it was not profitable to hire them, there would be no need to close any borders.

Security checkpoints style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stop.gif would still be needed to protect from terrorists style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bomb.gif but there would be soo many less crossings that border security style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pogranichnik.gif would be immensely easier.What I once thought was a fairly creative post has been turned into jibberish.

If this can happen to a post than the terrorists have won.

The boarder from Mexico? Hey look at it this way, Mexicans work and they are christians. UKs ileagles are muslim fundamentalists plotting to murdur you in cowardly yet effective ways. Be thankful.

And how the fuck could I forget, Mexican and Latin women are the best. Our ileagle women wear hijabs and look like hairy uni-brow muslim ninjas. Again, be thankful.