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Kundurp
05-27-2007, 06:41 AM
That descision was bullshit. Leben was the clear cut winner of round 2 and round 3 Cleben even being put in the gaurd kept moving and doing damage while kalib took a nap. Fuck that shit.

SC00BY
05-27-2007, 06:47 AM
damn, that sucks.

Bruce Lee
05-27-2007, 06:52 AM
Rd 1 clear cut for Starnes. The other two rounds could have went either way. Starnes wins.

Good fight.

Leben threw a lot of power punches, but landed nada. Everything was blocked for the most part. Starnes landed a lot more strikes - leg kicks, mid kicks and punches- although the punches weren't that powerful.

I think it was pretty obvious Starnes won.

mouse9379
05-27-2007, 06:54 AM
I thought Leben won it as well.

I gave the 1st round to Leben. It was a very close round, pretty equal. But Leben was the one pushing the pace the whole time. Starnes little 10 second fluury at the end might have stole it though.

The 2nd round I gave to Starnes. He started off great, landed some crisp right hands, got the takedown and landed some good ground and pound shots. Leben did come back strong towards the end though. I think the more quality damage gave Starnes that round though.

The 3rd I think you have to give to Leben. He was throwing some bombs and really pushed the pace the first half of the round while Starnes was gassed. And that liver kick hurt Starnes really bad. I don't know why Leben followed him down into his guard after that, he probably could have finished him on the feet if he keep it standing. Starnes got the sweep but he landed 1 punch and 1 elbow and that was it. Leben stayed busy the whole time on bottom. He had to take that round.

Nodachi
05-27-2007, 06:55 AM
heh, i won some money on this fight. i thought it was pretty close ther up until the end where starnes reversed leben and finished punching from the top. at that point i knew he would win unanimous or split. though that one judge who had ir 30-27 didnt seem right, leben got the second round.

djboricuaz
05-27-2007, 06:55 AM
Good fight, Leben lost though

twinmatrix101
05-27-2007, 06:56 AM
I thought Leben won the first and third but it was a very close fight. Props to Starnes.

Bruce Lee
05-27-2007, 06:57 AM
heh, i won some money on this fight. i thought it was pretty close ther up until the end where starnes reversed leben and finished punching from the top. at that point i knew he would win unanimous or split. .

This was the turning point. If Starnes hadn't of swept him and finshed with nice strikes, Leben then should have won.

mouse9379
05-27-2007, 07:01 AM
That's the thing though, he didn't finish with nice strikes. He literally landed 1 good punch and elbow and that was it besides some "only 10 seconds left iI better look busy" crap. Control time was equal for the two that round, Leben with the 1st half and Starnes with the 2nd, but Leben was a lot busier and did more damage.

CRBMoney14
05-27-2007, 07:03 AM
If you thought Leben won you really should watch the fight again. All Leben does is throw wild punches and none of them ever land, while Starnes stands in there and lands the more damaging shots. Seemed like an obvious win for Starnes

mouse9379
05-27-2007, 07:10 AM
Rule number 1 that a decision is not obvious.

1. The guy that won, in the post fight interview said he thought the other guy won.

Nodachi
05-27-2007, 07:11 AM
This was the turning point. If Starnes hadn't of swept him and finshed with nice strikes, Leben then should have won.

that what i thought to, leben would have won a split if starnes didnt get the reversal

SmokinGunz
05-27-2007, 07:26 AM
This was the turning point. If Starnes hadn't of swept him and finshed with nice strikes, Leben then should have won.

+1 it was a pretty sloppy fight for the most...Leben looked like shit. the most technical thing in the standup is when Starnes would throw his hesitant right hand. it did have it's moments though.

aussjj
05-27-2007, 07:44 AM
Using the 10-point system it could have gone either way, but the overall winner was definately Leben.

Rounds 1 and 2 could have been scored for either just depending on what you were looking for, so I will just say draw. Round 3 was undoubtedly for Leben, he dominated the first half and the last half Starnes just layed in his guard doing nothing but get rabbit punched.

Starnes getting the decision would be equivilent to Karo getting the decision when he fought Diego had that happened. It was pretty much even then the last round got dominated, only the first two rounds happened to be in favor of the guy who got dominated in round 3. I'm surprised anyone had round 3 for Starnes because Leben did more from the bottom than Starnes did from top.

aussjj
05-27-2007, 07:44 AM
Fuck the 10-point must system.

YouFrgotPoland
05-27-2007, 07:55 AM
Chris leben won in accordance to what the fights are supposed to be scored under. The boxing commision views the fighter in the guard is the most active and winning the fight even though it was apparent leben was doing much more damage from the guard.

I think It was bullshit and got robbed -btw this Kundurp I'm posting whilst getting drunk at Polands house celebrating Rampages awesomeness.

Blunt Object [ADR]
05-27-2007, 07:56 AM
i thought leben won that fight

YouFrgotPoland
05-27-2007, 07:56 AM
Leben did more damage on the feet, from the gaurd. The only damage Starnes was able to get off was when leben stood up without blocking any punches to the head (shich I thought was hilarious what a badass) Dude just fucking sits up eats three huge shots and is still like cmon fuckers lets do this.

Leben wins Via barfight and UFC rules.

hotnewton
05-27-2007, 08:18 AM
I thought Starnes won a very close decision and I feel the judges got it right (save for the 30-27 because leben did win a round) Starnes really needs to evaluate whether he is a fighter or not because he has been very lackluster and seems to lack the heart needed

Leben needs to learn to not barfight

I enjoyed the fight though even though the pace slowed in the 2nd and 3rd

nzjujitsu
05-27-2007, 11:15 AM
i thought leben won

metalunion
05-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Starnes was better than Leben, i agree with final decision