By Bill Calogero

The Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Oscar De La Hoya fight was a great one. It actually lived up to all of the pre-fight hype, but I for one believe the decision was wrong. The fight was a draw. It’s that simple.

The fight started out a little differently than I personally thought it would. During the first round, Floyd was the aggressor and on my scorecard, won the round. Both fighters landed punches but nothing really significant.

During the second round, it was De La Hoya who was the aggressor. He was able to cut the ring off and land multi-punch combinations to the head and body of Mayweather. Floyd was forced to go into a “defensive” mode. De La Hoya wins the round.

In the third and fourth rounds, Oscar was able to get Floyd against the ropes and score big with punches while Mayweather was forced to cover up. De La Hoya pounded both sides of Mayweather’s body with powerful left and right hooks. Floyd began to mount his own offensive attack, attempting to bully Oscar. It did not work, but nonetheless, these two rounds were exciting to watch. Oscar wins both rounds.

The fifth round had Mayweather begin to establish his jab, which gave him the ability to score with right-left-right combinations. Oscar had Floyd against the ropes and was able to land a solid right cross when he cornered his opponent but for the most part, Floyd was able to stay moving and began to avoid punches. Swelling begins to form by De La Hoya’s right eye. Oscar wins the round based on landing the harder shots.

Round six was hard to score, but what I saw was Oscar bully Floyd against the ropes battering his body and occasionally landing solid two and three punch combinations to Floyd’s head. De La Hoya also demonstrated his own defensive skills, avoiding most of the punches Mayweather threw at him.

Rounds seven through eleven were all close. Mayweather was now fighting the fight he should have from the first round and De La Hoya stopped doing what was working for him.

Mayweather used his superior hand speed to use his jab very effectively. He was able to keep Oscar far enough away to score with the jab and occasionally mix in a solid shot here and there. For some reason, even though he was successfully using his jab, doubling and even tripling them up, he continued to only throw one solid punch at a time. This kept these rounds close but the bottom line was that he landed more punches than his counter-part resulting, on my scorecard, getting the 10-9 scores in his favor.

De La Hoya was not able to bully Mayweather, as he did earlier in the fight. Therefore, he was not able to score with body shots and set up multi-punch combinations that would have helped him possibly get the nod in these rounds. He was out-worked just enough to, in my opinion, lose these rounds.

The twelfth and final round saw Mayweather start quickly, but a strong finish by De La Hoya won the round on my card. Neither fighter was knocked down, cut or hurt during the bout.

One of the three judges at ringside scored the fight 115-113 in favor of Oscar De La Hoya while the other two scored it 116-112 and 115-113 in favor of Floyd Mayweather Jr. giving him the Split-Decision win and the WBC Super Welterweight Title.

I scored the fight 114-114, a DRAW.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. stays undefeated at 38-0 (24 KOs) while Oscar De La Hoya drops to 38-5 (30 KOs).

After the fight, Mayweather said he was now retired and talked BS about how he beat up Oscar and loads of other nonsense. He said the fight was “Easy” for him. Lets make one thing clear. He did not beat up Oscar De La Hoya by any means and make no mistake; this fight was NOT easy for him. I don’t care what he says. He may have, in the eyes of the judges at ringside, won the fight, but by no means did he do it easily.

As silly as Mayweather sounded with his post-fight interview, De La Hoya sounded just a little too complacent with the decision that was just handed down. I know he has always conducted himself as a professional, in and out of the ring and it’s not his game to talk crap, but he should have showed a little “attitude” with this decision. After all, one judge did score the fight in his favor AND even Floyd Mayweather Sr., while getting his TV time, was asked (twice) by Larry Merchant who won the fight and he basically said that Oscar did.

This fight reminded me of another great one and for it’s time had a similar build up, public interest and end result. It too was very competitive. It was Marvin Hagler vs. Sugar Ray Leonard in April of 1987. This fight also rendered the wrong decision, resulting in losing one of the best Champions of all time from the mainstream of boxing. Marvin Hagler was so pissed at the decision, which went to Sugar Ray Leonard that he NEVER boxed again. As a matter of fact to this day, the only boxing-related event he consistently attends is the IBHOF induction ceremonies every year in Canastota, NY. That’s about it.

I watched the Hagler-Leonard fight over and over and over. I scored it every time. Sometimes I would score a round differently but EVERYTIME the score added up to a DRAW. By ending in a draw, it would have been so much better for the sport of boxing. Think about it: Sugar Ray would have accomplished what he set out to do, compete and earn a very respectable decision. Hagler would have retained his belt. The best part is we almost as sure as peanut butter goes with jelly, would have seen a re-match. Thus the fans (and promoters) would have benefited. In stead, Sugar Ray Leonard got the title, was never the same fighter and Marvelous Marvin Hagler went off to be a movie star in Italy.

The Floyd Mayweather Jr.- Oscar De La Hoya fight was a great fight. It DID live up to its billing. The public bought it. Everything about the fight was a success, except for one thing: They got the decision WRONG. This fight was a draw.

I had to see the fight again. I had to score it again to see if I missed something while watching the fight live. I was up until three in the morning watching the fight two more times. I scored it again each time and just like in the Leonard-Hagler bout twenty years ago, my result was the same……a DRAW.

If this fight ended in a draw, there would be no doubt we would see a rematch. There would be no doubt that it would be just as big, if not bigger, an event than last night’s mega fight. Most importantly, I would bet my last dollar that it would be just as competitive.

Instead, we have Mayweather officially announcing his retirement because he feels he has nothing else to prove and De La Hoya, whether he was playing nice and “acting” complacent with the decision, not even demanding a rematch during his immediate post-fight interview. He said he would, but that was about it. Floyd Sr. did his best to keep controversy around himself by announcing to the world that he felt Oscar won the fight.

Maybe that will spark Floyd Jr. into talking rematch right now. Why not? The fight is WORTHY of a rematch. I doubt the public will complain. For the first time in a long time, we got to see a QUALITY match up. We got to see a fight actually live up to the hype that surrounded it. Why shouldn’t we get to see another?

The sad thing is that quality bouts have become extremely rare so when we actually get one, we want more right away. Maybe what was said about this bout will come true. Prior to the fight, many boxing experts wrote and commented that this fight will save boxing. If it can set the precedence of getting more promoters to match the best fighters in their divisions to fight each other, then maybe it HAS saved the sport. I doubt many will argue that the Floyd Mayweather Jr.–Oscar De La Hoya bout was NOT a good fight. Why can’t these types of fights be the norm and not the exception?

I am not sure how everyone, the experts, the true boxing fans as well as the casual boxing fan, will feel about the decision of this fight. I know they will all agree that it was a good fight but over the next few weeks it will be extremely interesting to see how the reaction to the decision goes. I for one feel it was a great fight. It was a very competitive fight. It was action-packed. It was everything you look for in a high profile boxing match. But, the decision was wrong. When ever you have a fight that you can watch over and over and a round can go to either fighter, no matter how you slice it, the fight should be ruled a draw.

All parties involved, the boxers, the network, the promoters, and the fans will now have to wait and see where we go from here. Will we see a re-match? Only time will tell. If the fight were ruled correctly, a draw, then it would be a matter of WHEN the re-match will take place. Not IF.

uyyyyy.

I thought it was a draw also

not me, I had mayweather winning that fight

Meh... didn't really like the article or his scoring. I had it 116-112 for Mayweather. Solid performance by both guys but Floyd was the better man.

Meh... didn't really like the article or his scoring. I had it 116-112 for Mayweather. Solid performance by both guys but Floyd was the better man.

there you are.

LOL, in the shoutbox, Thedudeminds said Marcelo Garcia would beat Tyson in a street fight earlier..
That was funny as fuck.

Meh... didn't really like the article or his scoring. I had it 116-112 for Mayweather. Solid performance by both guys but Floyd was the better man.

I had it a draw but id have given round 10,11,12 to Floyd for sure, the scoring sucked

mayweather faught for points.

de la hoya faught for the KO

de la hoya did throw a lot of punches and you could clearly see not too many of them hurt mayweather.

im not a big fan of mayweather, personally i think chavez jr. would destroy him, and knowing floyd he probablly wont take the fight since hes "retiring" which i think is BULLSHIT

i think that was my first post in the boxing forum

I do think Oscar might have slightly pulled ahead and won the last round but Mayweather was clearly the better boxer throughout the fight and won it for sure.

This fight was a bust ALL AROUND. A war would have trouble living up to all the hype it had for one, but more importantly, the fact that it went to decision ruined the fight.

A) If it is ruled a draw, which it could have been, everyone would cry foul because its a set up for more money, PPV, etc. B) Mayweather wins, but he fought not to lose, he fought for points, and the crowd favorite loses despite being the aggressor C) De La Hoya wins while obviously not boxing as effectively (accuracy) as his opponent or doing significant damage

i think that was my first post in the boxing forum

Hopefully its the last.

Chavez Jr is going to destroy Mayweather??? BWAHAHAHAHHA, who has Chavez Jr fought? He aint half the fight his old man was.

I too had the fight scored as a draw, I gave Oscar Rounds 2 - 6 & 8, and Floyd got Rounds 1, 7 & 9 - 12. The closest rounds to me were 3 & 6.

mayweather faught for points.

de la hoya faught for the KO

de la hoya did throw a lot of punches and you could clearly see not too many of them hurt mayweather.

im not a big fan of mayweather, personally i think chavez jr. would destroy him, and knowing floyd he probablly wont take the fight since hes "retiring" which i think is BULLSHIT

Errrr.....I agreed with the 3rd sentence.
Chavez jnr whippin Floyd!Pleeeese.I dont want to go into that.

"The fifth round had Mayweather begin to establish his jab, which gave him the ability to score with right-left-right combinations. Oscar had Floyd against the ropes and was able to land a solid right cross when he cornered his opponent but for the most part, Floyd was able to stay moving and began to avoid punches. Swelling begins to form by De La Hoya’s right eye. Oscar wins the round based on landing the harder shots."

Anyone who gives Oscar the 5th round loses ALL credibility right away. He must have missed Floyd landing to great counter rights on the ropes, the second one rocking DLH

This motherfucker needs to wipe De La Hoya's cum off his lips before he starts talking. Lampley managed to wipe Oscar's cum off his lips to do fair and unbiased commentary for this fight, so if he can do it anyone can.

For anyone who never seen the fight, don't even read this piece of shit article. Its 100% DLH nuthuggery.

there you are.

LOL, in the shoutbox, Thedudeminds said Marcelo Garcia would beat Tyson in a street fight earlier..
That was funny as fuck.

get your facts straight, i said Garcia would tune mayweather in a real fight.. and you disagreed and argued Floyd's case

"The fifth round had Mayweather begin to establish his jab, which gave him the ability to score with right-left-right combinations. Oscar had Floyd against the ropes and was able to land a solid right cross when he cornered his opponent but for the most part, Floyd was able to stay moving and began to avoid punches. Swelling begins to form by De La Hoya’s right eye. Oscar wins the round based on landing the harder shots."

Anyone who gives Oscar the 5th round loses ALL credibility right away. He must have missed Floyd landing to great counter rights on the ropes, the second one rocking DLH

This motherfucker needs to wipe De La Hoya's cum off his lips before he starts talking. Lampley managed to wipe Oscar's cum off his lips to do fair and unbiased commentary for this fight, so if he can do it anyone can.

For anyone who never seen the fight, don't even read this piece of shit article. Its 100% DLH nuthuggery.

rounds 5 and 10 were the easiest rounds to score all night, Floyd easy

how can people even argue this decision. if anything it should have been a UD for mayweather instead of a split

mayweather definatley won at least 8 of the 12 rounds
i almost spilt my enchiladas when i heard the first judges decision

once again an overhyped superfight left 99% of the poeple feeling like they got robbed .the overwhelming majority thought the fight was lacking because once again we had to watch a fighter chase fmj around the ring for 12 rounds.the numbers wer great for the fight because people tuned in to see just that , a fight with all the shit talkin fmj did and how he said he was gonna punish oscar was a joke.this is why boxing is going down the tubes because so called superfights suck.and like i said the numbers were great BECAUSE of the hope of a great fight,and the fact that only tyson and oscar get those kind of ppv numbers,everyone i no tuned in just in the hope of fmj getting his ass kicked.some people on here are talkin like this was hagler-hearns , or leonard - hearns ,the fight after all the hype sucked and fmj should never be mentioned in the same breath as fighters like hearns ,leonard,hagler,chavez,or duran its an insult.

What fucking fight did you watch, you tell me what fucking round Floyd ran from De La Hoya? He circled (like any fucking boxer does), but he pretty much stood in front of De La Hoya the entire fight and Oscar still couldn't do shit to him.

i watched the same fight that all the boxing ringsiders watched the journalists from ringside magazine watched and everyone ive talked to watched and like i said theres about 1in 10 that didnt think that fight was lacking in a major way .so what your saying is that was a great fight?im sorry like i said before i consider leonard -hearns a great fight hagler-hearns a great fight holyfeild - bowe #1 .they hyped this fight to be something great and it fell way short.

If you expected anymore then you dont know boxing, It was a great close fight, alot closer than most people expected.

see thats the problem i do no boxing and i called that fight a decision win by fmj when they signed the contract.thats the fucking prob thats why the fight sucked because it went exactley as everyone new it would,and if you really think that was a great fight then im sorry but you have a shitty idea of what a great fight is

I didn't say it was a GREAT fight. I just asked you when the fuck you saw Floyd running away. Judging by the way you instantly diverted the discussion away from my question means that you got caught talking straight out of your ass and you know it.

see thats the problem i do no boxing and i called that fight a decision win by fmj when they signed the contract.thats the fucking prob thats why the fight sucked because it went exactley as everyone new it would,and if you really think that was a great fight then im sorry but you have a shitty idea of what a great fight is

If you think the fight sucked, you do not "no boxing" and no one here will believe you "no boxing".

"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

number 1 i could give two shits less if you think i no boxing or not . second the fight had no excitement no drama and no good exchanges 3 things that make a good fight.i along with many professional sports writers saw the same thing .the only fucking time the crowd even cheered was when oscar would corner floyd up against the ropes so apparently they dont no good boxing either.and as far as floyd standing in front of oscar get your eyes checked you tool he stood in front of oscar when he pinned him up against the ropes the rest of the fight he threw p[op shots and jabs no combos so he wouldnt leave himself open for exchanges .like the guy from ringside magazine wrote it was like watching a prevent defense.when two guys fight and you dont even have to watch to no whats gonna go down that fight in my opinion sucks.when a guy like fmj talks as much shit as he does he should put a beat down on the guy hes fighting.if oscar didnt push that fight there would have been nothing at all to see.agree or not i dont give a fuck but when boxing advertises this is the biggest fight in years the fucking guy should come to fight .that fight did nothing to make people pony up another 65 to watch another "big fight".

lol trying to tell me it wasnt a good fight, I fucking watched it dude, I can make up my own mind
you're just pissed off there was no blood
no excitement? no drama? wtf dude, you dont have a fucking clue

MBL you're a mod here right? Is there any way we could possibly put restrictions on who can post in the boxing forum? Nothing too strict, the only requirement should be that you don't talk directly out of your ass and have at least a little bit of knowledge on what you're talking about.

No drama? No excitment? What a baffoon.

Face it, you're an angry, disgruntled MMA fan who has NO idea what he's talking about. You're angry that a boxing match did so well, so you feel the need to attack it and try to discredit it as much as possible.

Two elite fighters both gave incredible performances of skill in that ring, if that don't satisfy you then don't watch boxing, it isn't the sport for you.

what exactley did you find exciting.no worth while exchanges,drama hmmmmmmm floyd by decision that was surprising.we have diffrent opinions of a great fight <which this was billed as> fine if that was the best boxing has to offer these days than boxing is in trouble.

MBL you're a mod here right? Is there any way we could possibly put restrictions on who can post in the boxing forum? Nothing too strict, the only requirement should be that you don't talk directly out of your ass and have at least a little bit of knowledge on what you're talking about.

No drama? No excitment? What a baffoon.

Face it, you're an angry, disgruntled MMA fan who has NO idea what he's talking about. You're angry that a boxing match did so well, so you feel the need to attack it and try to discredit it as much as possible.

Two elite fighters both gave incredible performances of skill in that ring, if that don't satisfy you then don't watch boxing, it isn't the sport for you.
could you be any more of a jerkoff? what the fuck was so incredible tell me plz.i am a huge boxing fan so save the mma bullshit a fight billed as a superfight should be just that .you keep saying it was so good what was so good you and bruce are the only to people who seem to think this fight lived up to even half the hype.your right it was fucking incredible non stop action suck a dick and tell me what fmjs asshole smells like .you my friend are a boxing nuthugger who cant beleive the fight sucked and it was boxings last chance to get back the casual fan .

Well first off FLoyd defensive work was incredible. He didn't run, when Oscar got him on the ropes and fired huge flurries, he landed very few of them. When a guy with the hand speed of Oscar gets you on the ropes and can't land shit, thats incredible. If you were watching it live, the drama was very high because it was a close fight with two great fighters. Something most of you MMA fans will never understand is you don't need blood to create drama.

Floyd's handspeed and accuracy was great. De La Hoya kept stalking and put a lot of pressure on Floyd at times. It wasn't a great fight, but it was a solid fight. If you think it sucks, you're not a huge boxing fan. You can't just like fights like Gatti/Ward and call yourself a huge fan of boxing.

Fights have been billed as Superfights and have lacked action for as long as boxing has been around. Remember Frazier/Ali 2? Leonard/Duran 3? Remember Sugar Ray Leonard running from Marvin Hagler for 12 rounds? All of these were considered super fights, and none had the excitement of DLH/Mayweather IMO.

You just have no idea what you're talking about. You came here saying "Floyd ran from De La Hoya for 12 rounds." No he didn't. I asked you to point out where exactly he ran, and you've been avoiding that question almost as well as you avoid women. You keep arguing the fact that it wasn't a great fight when, in fact, I've admitted that it wasn't a GREAT fight numerous times. Not only is the content of your posts absolute shit, but they look like they were written by a 3rd grader.

You're too stupid to be watching fight sports. We don't want you.

not me, I had mayweather winning that fight

That is because you are in love with black people.

first of all you have some balls saying fm oscar was better than ali frazier 2 .the other two fights are also good examples of fights that fucking sucked.leonard duran 3 superfight?there first fight was billed as a super fight not there third jerkoff .hagler leonard was a fucking joke sideshow talk about running .ali frazier 1 was a "super fight" and lived up to all the hype you snobby little bitch leonard-hearns was a "superfight " and lived up to it and it looks like a 3rd grader writing cause im abbrve everything trying to answer you between shit i have too do at work.im done argueing with you ,if you like that weak ass fight im glad for you and i have no prob with the way oscar fought he tried to make it a fight fmj was playing defense all night your such a fucking expert go to ringside mag and read the articles you are in the minority .and i dont just watch fight sports and write about it on the comp i compete full contact ,oh and also i told you many times were he ran THE WHOLE FIGHT he was paid millions ,talked shit about how great he is,he owed it to every person who shelled out 65 to go all out and punish oscar like he said he would do instead of not trying to get hit himself an get a another fucking lame ass win on points

Good to hear you're quitting, but to be fair you should have quit long ago if you have any hope of fooling people into thinking you knew something about boxing.

PS. I don't give a fuck what some idiot writing for a boxing mag thinks, I don't need to be told what my opinion should be, I can form it on my own.

Beanflicker said everything I would have, if you watched the fight live and you are a boxing fan then you would have enjoyed it and even at some points been on the edge of your seat
everytime 2 big names fight each other doesnt mean its gonna be Hagler/Hearns all over again, and if you expected that from this fight then you dont know shit about these guys

first of all you have some balls saying fm oscar was better than ali frazier 2 .the other two fights are also good examples of fights that fucking sucked.leonard duran 3 superfight?there first fight was billed as a super fight not there third jerkoff .hagler leonard was a fucking joke sideshow talk about running .ali frazier 1 was a "super fight" and lived up to all the hype you snobby little bitch leonard-hearns was a "superfight " and lived up to it and it looks like a 3rd grader writing cause im abbrve everything trying to answer you between shit i have too do at work.im done argueing with you ,if you like that weak ass fight im glad for you and i have no prob with the way oscar fought he tried to make it a fight fmj was playing defense all night your such a fucking expert go to ringside mag and read the articles you are in the minority .and i dont just watch fight sports and write about it on the comp i compete full contact ,oh and also i told you many times were he ran THE WHOLE FIGHT he was paid millions ,talked shit about how great he is,he owed it to every person who shelled out 65 to go all out and punish oscar like he said he would do instead of not trying to get hit himself an get a another fucking lame ass win on points

Ali/Frazier 2 was not a great fight & thats y its never mentioned in the same breath as the other 2.
If u can't discuss a fight & get ur points across without personal insults then its apparant that ur points lack the validity necessary to sustain ur standing.
Stick to the mma section dipshit.

thanx for your 2 cents asshole but first of all i said he had balls saying fmj oscar was better than ali frazier 2.the rest of your post is retarded because you make no sense .what other 2 fights are you talking about ? ali frazier 2 isnt compared to what fights?.i said leonard hagler was a joke and leonard duran 3 was never considerd a superfight learn to read you tool before makeing comments.i said leonard duran 1 was a superfight and leonard hearns 1 was a super fight and both lived up to the hype something fmj an oscar failed to do big time.

hey jimmy suck cock :)

Me no need no name calling cuz :logicwins:
:owned:

Boxing fans are deadly eyyy headwound??

that was my initial thought to your post .you however did not answer on my other response to your assinine thoughts in which you made no sense.i can also see by most of the threads its you and bean sucking each other off all the time so you 2 think everything you say is spot on .i stated that the way they hyped this fight they screwed evrybody who paid any money to see it .the superfights back then were great fights .the only reason they made as much money as they did was because of oscar period.i said 10 times bruce i new how this fight would go 6 months ago and it went exactley the way i said.that makes the fight suck because it didnt even need to be watched to no the outcome .you 3 have your heads so far up your ass you dont see that boxing is a shell of what it used to be .thats why boxing was so great because guys had heart and fought balls out all the time .now 90% of them talk shit and show up for a paycheck.theres still a few good ones out there but not enuff to sustain boxing on a major level.so go jerk each other off agreeing with each other about everything you write because you guys apparentley no it all.

that was my initial thought to your post .you however did not answer on my other response to your assinine thoughts in which you made no sense.i can also see by most of the threads its you and bean sucking each other off all the time so you 2 think everything you say is spot on .i stated that the way they hyped this fight they screwed evrybody who paid any money to see it .the superfights back then were great fights .the only reason they made as much money as they did was because of oscar period.i said 10 times bruce i new how this fight would go 6 months ago and it went exactley the way i said.that makes the fight suck because it didnt even need to be watched to no the outcome .you 3 have your heads so far up your ass you dont see that boxing is a shell of what it used to be .thats why boxing was so great because guys had heart and fought balls out all the time .now 90% of them talk shit and show up for a paycheck.theres still a few good ones out there but not enuff to sustain boxing on a major level.so go jerk each other off agreeing with each other about everything you write because you guys apparentley no it all.

Errr the other 2 fights are Ali/Frazier 1 & 3..Darrr.

I am however flattered that u referred to my response as asinine in nature[yes asinine has just the one s]We have at least ascertained that I am intelligent, but u on the other hand have produced the kind of lame duck replies that lead me to conclude you are apparantly lacking in logic & commonsense.

I have no desire to call u names or insult u on a personal level because I understand that u have no idea what ur talking about & I do forgive ur ignorance.

Just stick to ur mma chief,when u get a bit smarter u can come here & talk to the men.

Fair enough.

your response leaves me to believe that you still have no idea what you are saying about my previouse post concerning the comparisen bean made to the fmj oscar fight and ali frazier 2.it also leads me to beleive that you do definatley take it up the ass chief.with all your proper grammer and fine talk your views on the real state of boxing are biased and if you can actually say you think boxing is in as fine a shape as it once was and has no worries you really are assinine.oops i spelt it with 2 s again stupid me

your response leaves me to believe that you still have no idea what you are saying about my previouse post concerning the comparisen bean made to the fmj oscar fight and ali frazier 2.it also leads me to beleive that you do definatley take it up the ass chief.with all your proper grammer and fine talk your views on the real state of boxing are biased and if you can actually say you think boxing is in as fine a shape as it once was and has no worries you really are assinine.oops i spelt it with 2 s again stupid me

How many fucking responses do you need? dont come in here being a tool and calling people names because your own arguement is getting ripped apart

you are telling us EVERYBODY who payed for this fight was ripped off, were telling you that as boxing fans we didnt feel ripped off at all....case closed

keep the insults and childish bullshit in the asylum, if you have ANY other arguement which you want taken apart then stop with the insults and tery and to act older than 15, im trying to get an idea of wtf your on about and I gotta read 10 lines of how much everyone who doesnt agree with you is a fag then one sentence telling me EVERYONE was ripped off which is not true

your response leaves me to believe that you still have no idea what you are saying about my previouse post concerning the comparisen bean made to the fmj oscar fight and ali frazier 2.it also leads me to beleive that you do definatley take it up the ass chief.with all your proper grammer and fine talk your views on the real state of boxing are biased and if you can actually say you think boxing is in as fine a shape as it once was and has no worries you really are assinine.oops i spelt it with 2 s again stupid me

Fine.U think boxing is dead then y r u even posting here?
Scoot back to the mma section champ.Your an idiot.

fuckin noobs, lets move the boxing forum to the ninjastash so we dont gotta post with these idiots
its not easy being an eagle when you're flying with turkeys

fuckin noobs, lets move the boxing forum to the ninjastash so we dont gotta post with these idiots
its not easy being an eagle when you're flying with turkeys

They are boring.Cant even make a decent arguement or challenge.

dont talk to me about insults #1 cause bean rips apart anyone who comes in here to make a post if he doesnt agree with it .ive made many examples of why this fight was a rip off and didnt even come close to living up to the hype it put out .i was given comparisons of this fight and ali fraziers 2nd fight by bean and i never said boxing was dead i said it doesnt compare to the past because of fighters like fmj who think there the pfp greatest ever and back up for 12 rounds and look for point wins this all started by me saying fmj doesnt even come close to the cloth of fighters that preceeded him and its an insult to those named to even compare him to any of them.i didnt start the insults and none of you ripped apart anything i wrote you came back with the same bullshit answers to everything." i thought it was really good" well then like i said your thoughts on a good fight ,that was supposed to be great in my opinion suck.the majority also thought it was lacking big time but you dont want to here that.dont listen then but that is why when people say boxing is fadeing that is the reason because of these "big fights" that dont deliver, it doesnt matter that hardcore fans thought it was good .it matters what the majority thinks.i said it did the numbers it because of de la hoya i was wrong on that too rite?bean talkin ,see boxings not dead .if oscar wasnt involved it woulndt have come close to those numbers look at floyds last fight .no one wants to see floyd because he safe and boring end of story.but please stop with your ill take apart you arguments you havent come close yet.didnt mean to make you cry with insults. sissy boy

dont talk to me about insults #1 cause bean rips apart anyone who comes in here to make a post if he doesnt agree with it .ive made many examples of why this fight was a rip off and didnt even come close to living up to the hype it put out .i was given comparisons of this fight and ali fraziers 2nd fight by bean and i never said boxing was dead i said it doesnt compare to the past because of fighters like fmj who think there the pfp greatest ever and back up for 12 rounds and look for point wins this all started by me saying fmj doesnt even come close to the cloth of fighters that preceeded him and its an insult to those named to even compare him to any of them.i didnt start the insults and none of you ripped apart anything i wrote you came back with the same bullshit answers to everything." i thought it was really good" well then like i said your thoughts on a good fight ,that was supposed to be great in my opinion suck.the majority also thought it was lacking big time but you dont want to here that.dont listen then but that is why when people say boxing is fadeing that is the reason because of these "big fights" that dont deliver, it doesnt matter that hardcore fans thought it was good .it matters what the majority thinks.i said it did the numbers it because of de la hoya i was wrong on that too rite?bean talkin ,see boxings not dead .if oscar wasnt involved it woulndt have come close to those numbers look at floyds last fight .no one wants to see floyd because he safe and boring end of story.but please stop with your ill take apart you arguments you havent come close yet.didnt mean to make you cry with insults. sissy boy

I dont understand you at all, are you ripping on Floyd or boxing? I hate Floyd
and it ONLY matters to me if I enjoyed the fight, my brothers not a huge boxing fan and he loved it too
most writers and boxing people are saying it was a good fight, you cant spew that bullshit to me, I actually read

the boxing is dead arguement makes no sense at all, yeah record numbers two weeks ago, it must have died may 6th then I guess niggadamus

dont talk to me about insults #1 cause bean rips apart anyone who comes in here to make a post if he doesnt agree with it .ive made many examples of why this fight was a rip off and didnt even come close to living up to the hype it put out .i was given comparisons of this fight and ali fraziers 2nd fight by bean and i never said boxing was dead i said it doesnt compare to the past because of fighters like fmj who think there the pfp greatest ever and back up for 12 rounds and look for point wins this all started by me saying fmj doesnt even come close to the cloth of fighters that preceeded him and its an insult to those named to even compare him to any of them.i didnt start the insults and none of you ripped apart anything i wrote you came back with the same bullshit answers to everything." i thought it was really good" well then like i said your thoughts on a good fight ,that was supposed to be great in my opinion suck.the majority also thought it was lacking big time but you dont want to here that.dont listen then but that is why when people say boxing is fadeing that is the reason because of these "big fights" that dont deliver, it doesnt matter that hardcore fans thought it was good .it matters what the majority thinks.i said it did the numbers it because of de la hoya i was wrong on that too rite?bean talkin ,see boxings not dead .if oscar wasnt involved it woulndt have come close to those numbers look at floyds last fight .no one wants to see floyd because he safe and boring end of story.but please stop with your ill take apart you arguments you havent come close yet.didnt mean to make you cry with insults. sissy boy
That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to scratch its watch or wind its ass.
You just dont get it do ya.When Bean disagrees with people, he respects the
facts of the situation.Unlike you.

you no what bruce ill try to make myself clearer .i used to love boxing i would buy every ppv that was on i stopped doing that and just waiting for the replays the week after because of so many lame fights.this fight was boxings chance to do everything right and in my opinion and alot of other peoples they blew it .i dont want to here about floyds hand speed and his defense .for once in his career he should of went in and fought to win convinsingly go for the ko and make it a great fight against an opponent that it would be dangerouse to do that against like oscar.that would have mad for a great fight imo.i also have to say again if oscar was not in that fight it wouldnt have done half the numbers it did and once oscars gone who are people gonna pay 65 to watch?the number of guys in that catagory are dwindling.hope that sheds more light if not idon no

you no what bruce ill try to make myself clearer .i used to love boxing i would buy every ppv that was on i stopped doing that and just waiting for the replays the week after because of so many lame fights.this fight was boxings chance to do everything right and in my opinion and alot of other peoples they blew it .i dont want to here about floyds hand speed and his defense .for once in his career he should of went in and fought to win convinsingly go for the ko and make it a great fight against an opponent that it would be dangerouse to do that against like oscar.that would have mad for a great fight imo.i also have to say again if oscar was not in that fight it wouldnt have done half the numbers it did and once oscars gone who are people gonna pay 65 to watch?the number of guys in that catagory are dwindling.hope that sheds more light if not idon no

"For once in his career".U havn't seen many Floyd fights have u?Go watch his fight vs Coralles & Gatti for example.
Ur arguements r pathetic.

i said against a guy like oscar that it would be dangerouse to do against he was in no danger against gotti and corralles couldnt ko him oscar could.ive seen them all and corralles was the only one worth watching .sweet boy

you no what bruce ill try to make myself clearer .i used to love boxing i would buy every ppv that was on i stopped doing that and just waiting for the replays the week after because of so many lame fights.this fight was boxings chance to do everything right and in my opinion and alot of other peoples they blew it .i dont want to here about floyds hand speed and his defense .for once in his career he should of went in and fought to win convinsingly go for the ko and make it a great fight against an opponent that it would be dangerouse to do that against like oscar.that would have mad for a great fight imo.i also have to say again if oscar was not in that fight it wouldnt have done half the numbers it did and once oscars gone who are people gonna pay 65 to watch?the number of guys in that catagory are dwindling.hope that sheds more light if not idon no

well im not gonna argue with you're opinion, thats er.....you're opinion
Floyd did exactly what he had to do in that fight, if he got popped by Oscar and went down it was all for nothing
he didnt run, Oscar should have done more, you cant blame Floyd for fighting like that, its what works for him and its affective

I agree with you on one thing, I hate Floyd to, I dont like his style and I hate watching him fight but its not him its the other guy, Baldomir looked terrible, Corrales didnt even throw punches when he had Floyd Cornered and Oscar didnt have the stamina to keep up his flurries which could have won him the fight
Even watching him land at will on Gatti was annoying because of Gatti not doing anything about it

i said against a guy like oscar that it would be dangerouse to do against he was in no danger against gotti and corralles couldnt ko him oscar could.

Gatti & Corrales couldn't KO him??LOL.Corrales was a monster at '35!
As I said ur arguements r pathetic.

Corrales did look like a monster in that fight, It was like Floyd was a bull fighter that night and Corrales was the poor bull getting mocked and poked to death with a stick

gotti had no fucking chance in this world of koing him he was lucky he layed a glove on him .floyds fighting guys bigger and hit harder no 35 pounder gonna ko him.and to the point neither one of them has near the power or boxing ability of oscar.

fmj fights oscar in his prime who wins ?

Corrales did look like a monster in that fight, It was like Floyd was a bull fighter that night and Corrales was the poor bull getting mocked and poked to death with a stick

That was the fight that made me pay attention to Floyd.I'd seen Chico decimate the undefeated Roberto Garcia in his title winning effort & his power at '35 was incredible.Floyd just totally dissected him & didn't even get hit in the process.
At the end Floyd was as fresh as he was in the first rd & Chico was totally done.
Great fight.

In their primes at '40 or '47 its still PBF.
He's just superior IMO.Although Oscar was a bit past it Floyd negated that somewhat by fighting well out of his natural weight.

fmj fights oscar in his prime who wins ?

id say Oscar but the weight class is hard to work out. it would be at 140 I guess



we all know Kostya Tszyu would have taken them both in his prime though :sifone:

In their primes at '40 or '47 its still PBF.
He's just superior IMO.Although Oscar was a bit past it Floyd negated that somewhat by fighting well out of his natural weight.

It would have been like a Mosley/Hoya II type fight

id say Oscar but the weight class is hard to work out. it would be at 140 I guess



we all know Kostya Tszyu would have taken them both in his prime though :sifone:

Kostya/Floyd or DLH at 140 back in the day..
That woulda been cool.