How would Bruce Lee do in modern day MMA?

He would do good. He allready had an understanding that every style has holes and you have to fill those holes with techniques from other styles.

I think because of his amazing physical shape he would do very well if he fought in his weight class but I think he was more of a street fighter using eye gouges and stuff like that. He would stick his finger in your eye super fast and follow it up by kicking you in the nuts super hard.

Nut kicks hurt. I have been kicked. It hurt.

yes it does and takes forever to go away

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ninjashoes @ Jun 5 2006, 03:23 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
yes it does and takes forever to go away
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right, fuck that vicious stomach pain afta u get ur nuts slightly knocked around. ive taken quite the amount of nut shots from my lil bro, and amazingly enough i once hadda bitch ride so hard she like sat on my nut somehow thot i was dyin tossed the bitch to the side. lol

I have seen someone KO'ed from a nut shot.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rdrvgs @ Jun 5 2006, 10:45 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I have seen someone KO'ed from a nut shot.
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Lol, Bruce Lee would pwn. Didn't you see him bite the Russian in the Chinese Connection to escape an armbar? (at least he had an armbar in his movies back then)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rdrvgs @ Jun 6 2006, 02:45 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I have seen someone KO'ed from a nut shot.
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lol

bruce lee would be good in mma i guess , but hes bones are probly dust by now

Watching Genki Sudo bounce around so lightly and gracefully reminds me of Bruce Lee. Bruce was lighter than any current fighters but he was twice as quick as well. He cross-trained back then. A true MIXED martial artist.

Bruce Lee was a great martial artist.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TBA @ Jun 9 2006, 05:27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Watching Genki Sudo bounce around so lightly and gracefully reminds me of Bruce Lee. Bruce was lighter than any current fighters but he was twice as quick as well. He cross-trained back then. A true MIXED martial artist.
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Most likely the first.

Genki Sudo does remind me of Bruce and believe he's gone on to say he's influenced in some of Bruce's ways.

why is ur bluebelt pic a movie cover

Yeah, Genki Sudo is awesome to watch, some of his techniques are crazy, and you dont see anyone else doing them. He is one of my favorites and I can see the comparisons.

yeah+1

Chuck Norris sucks.

i say he'll do pretty damn good cause he would only be like 31 now(i dont know) but he's sumone who understands martial arts and can tweak his fighting to be the better

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RFF @ Jun 13 2006, 09:32 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i say he'll do pretty damn good cause he would only be like 31 now(i dont know) but he's sumone who understands martial arts and can tweak his fighting to be the better
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hes def oldre than that... i just meant bruce in his prime in contemporary martial arts

he would have had to learn bjj aswell

He did know some submissions and grappling. In his movies you can see him do some even. Just ask Kareem.

oh awesome , imagine if he was alive and in his prime , he would be way to fast , have you seen him vs chuck norris

if bruce lee had trained mma he would destroy, insane cardio, impossible speed

bruce lee would be in a very light weight class, what was he 130lbs at best? No one near his weight class would stand a chance, even gomi, kid, genki if he trained more on the ground(which I believe he would because he did some ground training back then just to add to his arsenal) or just develop a gr8 sprawl ala CC, he'd not only dominate but he'd be P4P #1. His amazing conditioning and strength especially relative to his size was incredible back then, with not nearly as good supplements, diets, training methods, equipment, etc... It really leaves alot to ponder and salivate over the what if's.

yeah cos one guy that got kicked by bruce got interviewed , and he said when he got kicked he thought he was hit by a truck

I don't honestly think he'd be the best in mma in this time.

Bruce Lee via bad dubbing

I wouldn't say Bruce could hang with a Fedor or nothing in his prime, but he definitely would own the 155 weight division. His speed is unparalleled. His kick was amazingly strong, and comparable to heavyweights. Bruce Lee knew submissions...and if he had 6 months to train for a fight...he'd no doubt learn BJJ (basics). He'd be difficult to take down, and I think any 155 would get knocked out if they tried to get aggressive with Bruce.
Bruce's punches and kicks were very strong and came at you quick.
Bruce knew before anyone else the importance of knowing different disciplines.

I think he would be destroyed by the warriors of today just my 2 cents.

he is a legend

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what he said

Dude, he is incredible man with amazing accomplishments as far as MMA goes and ideals and concepts regarding mma. Any fukin noob person will argue that bruce lee could whoop Fedor/chuck/silvia/cro cop (hahahahah) It just stupid to think that he could compete. What makes him better than the people that train its these mens lives to fight. Bruce lee was into alot of different things, but he still was hollywood same as Norris awesome Martial artist not pratical to fight any elite fighters to day its pretty ludacris to think that way if you ask me.

if he wasn't too old, he would do well because he was open minded and wickedly fast

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nzjujitsu @ Jun 14 2006, 10:38 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
yeah cos one guy that got kicked by bruce got interviewed , and he said when he got kicked he thought he was hit by a truck
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let gomi kick someone and ask the guy how it felt. you'll get the same answer

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(El Che @ Jun 14 2006, 09:22 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
bruce lee would be in a very light weight class, what was he 130lbs at best? No one near his weight class would stand a chance, even gomi, kid, genki if he trained more on the ground(which I believe he would because he did some ground training back then just to add to his arsenal) or just develop a gr8 sprawl ala CC, he'd not only dominate but he'd be P4P #1. His amazing conditioning and strength especially relative to his size was incredible back then, with not nearly as good supplements, diets, training methods, equipment, etc... It really leaves alot to ponder and salivate over the what if's.
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have to disagree here. imo lee wouldn't stand the slightest chance against men like kid or gomi, as these are real fighters.

what everybody seems to forget in here is that bruce lee was nothing but an actor with some skillz. the guy never competed, never fought for real, and his jkd style was based on the wing tsun kung fu he had learned originally. early ufcs, wing tsun kung fu, anybody remember how that ended?

imo he's totally overrated, yes he did a lot to popularize martial arts, but beyond that, he's just yesterday's jean claude van damme/chuck norris

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RFF @ Jun 13 2006, 09:32 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i say he'll do pretty damn good cause he would only be like 31 now(i dont know) but he's sumone who understands martial arts and can tweak his fighting to be the better
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He was born in like 1940

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee

he was more than just an actor like jean claude or chuck norris imo

He'd get killed by Fedor.

You can say that about pretty much any human that has ever existed.

We should make a thread about who might not get completely demolished by him.

I hear he knew submissions and his system was kind of well rounded.

Plus he owned in his movies...

Yeah but that's a "movie".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Resin @ Jun 20 2006, 04:31 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
He'd get killed by Fedor.
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fedor is twice his size

he would prob be the best fighter out there...pound for pound anyways...cause he understood how to learn techniques and had an open mind...was basically a technical genius that would have mastered every art and used it in the ring or octagon...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rynoplasty @ Jun 6 2006, 03:24 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Lol, Bruce Lee would pwn. Didn't you see him bite the Russian in the Chinese Connection to escape an armbar? (at least he had an armbar in his movies back then)
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I think he also popped an armbar on Samo Hung (yes, that was Samo) at the beginning of "Enter the Dragon". They were even wearing MMA type gloves.

Movies aside, I think Bruce would have been a murderous bantam weight.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Fire Zouave @ Jun 23 2006, 10:03 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Movies aside, I think Bruce would have been a murderous bantam weight.
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The bantamweights I see now don't know how to, "Be the water."

I believe that Bruce was talented enough, and he had the physical conditioning to do well in MMA. I mean his JKD system is MMA, he pretty much took all the best techniques that he could find from other systems and incorporate it into his own. That's why his philosophy was "Be like water" because, it was to adapt to the opponent without the limitation of style. Thats why Bruce was so awesome, he would constantly improve his system by incorporating new techniques, unlike the Gracies who believe that Gracie Jui Jitsu all you need.

The man had an insane training regimen, he was incredibly quick with explosive power. P4P he was one of the strongest men to ever live, I mean how many people do you know can do 2-finger pushups and knock people back a few feet with a 1-inch punch. Had he been exposed to todays MMA scene...there is no doubt that he would have trained all the stuff that todays fighters are training. I think he would have done quite well in a lightweight division.

Bruce should be considered as a pioneer thinker of mma. The Gracies did wonders for the sport but they were just arguing the superiority of BJJ, which was true until people cross-trained. However old Bruce never accepted the superiority of any style over the other; which is the underlying principle of MMA.

His training methods may seem dated today, but they were revolutionary.

Bruce was way ahead of his time with the merging of MA's, he was the start of MMA as far as i know.

He doesn't have any ring experience. So I don't think anyone has that great of an idea, but I think he would do bad because he wasn't that big and I don't think he knew much grappling.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chance @ Jun 27 2006, 12:15 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
He doesn't have any ring experience. So I don't think anyone has that great of an idea, but I think he would do bad because he wasn't that big and I don't think he knew much grappling.
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true, he wasn't that big...he weighed in roughly at 140 lbs...shredded, but I don't think it would've be too hard for him to gain another 15lbs of lean body mass.

as far as grappling goes, I don't think anyone knows for sure of how in depth his knowledge of grappling was. But had he been exposed to it as much as todays MMA fighters are, I'm certain that it would be part of his traing regimen.

but if you threw him into the cage, as is (purely JKD)...against say, Norifumi Yamamoto or Genki Sudo he would probably his ass kicked.

hed do great imo
hed probably pick ppl apart just with kicks
i doubt someone could get to him to take him down

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nzjujitsu @ Jun 8 2006, 04:00 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
bruce lee would be good in mma i guess , but hes bones are probly dust by now
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i don,t think so he is not enough strong to compete against mma fighter

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Edge @ Jun 27 2006, 03:32 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
true, he wasn't that big...he weighed in roughly at 140 lbs...shredded, but I don't think it would've be too hard for him to gain another 15lbs of lean body mass.

as far as grappling goes, I don't think anyone knows for sure of how in depth his knowledge of grappling was. But had he been exposed to it as much as todays MMA fighters are, I'm certain that it would be part of his traing regimen.

but if you threw him into the cage, as is (purely JKD)...against say, Norifumi Yamamoto or Genki Sudo he would probably his ass kicked.
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no because he does not know the ground fighting

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sanath95 @ Jul 3 2006, 08:50 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i don,t think so he is not enough strong to compete against mma fighter
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actually Bruce was incredibly strong for a guy his size, and he was also very quick and he hit hard. And JKD is MMA, so I dunno where you get your logic from.

as far as saying he has no groundgame...He studied various fighting styles, even if he hadn't learned BJJ. He did in fact implement Judo (which is pretty where BJJ comes from), and Ju-Jitsu in his style.

JKD was a fairly complete system in it's day, it covered striking, takedowns, and grappling. Pretty much all the tools you need to compete in an MMA fight.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fantouz @ Jun 26 2006, 12:18 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Bruce should be considered as a pioneer thinker of mma. The Gracies did wonders for the sport but they were just arguing the superiority of BJJ, which was true until people cross-trained. However old Bruce never accepted the superiority of any style over the other; which is the underlying principle of MMA.

His training methods may seem dated today, but they were revolutionary.
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not to mention they are 40-50 years old. He continously was looking for ways to improve. With his philosophy of never being relegated to a "style" i bet u if he were alive now and exposed to all the different discipline's and training methods, he would train in all types of disciplines, bjj, wrestling, muay thai. With his hard training regime and desire to be as good as possible i feel he would pwn anyone within 30 pounds of his weight class.

Bruce Lee is God

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TBA @ Jun 10 2006, 12:27 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Watching Genki Sudo bounce around so lightly and gracefully reminds me of Bruce Lee. Bruce was lighter than any current fighters but he was twice as quick as well. He cross-trained back then. A true MIXED martial artist.
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agreed

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TBA @ Jun 10 2006, 12:27 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Watching Genki Sudo bounce around so lightly and gracefully reminds me of Bruce Lee. Bruce was lighter than any current fighters but he was twice as quick as well. He cross-trained back then. A true MIXED martial artist.
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what is wrong with the quotes?

he'd mos def hold his own, i bet he'd have a sick grapple/ground game
vicious leg kicks
quick sharp punches
of course the jumpin stomp too

I was an obsessed Bruce Lee fan as a kid...I truly think he would do well in MMA with the right training...He did nothing but train, and learn about training and with that mindset he can do only but pwn in striking and all aspects of the ground game..Although he might not have a lot of takedown & wrestling power i'm sure he would be fluent (like water) and inventive to escape and submit a physicaly stronger opponent.

And if you offend him , his family or his shoalin temple, expect a vicious head kick.

bruce lee is the fucking man. greatest pic ever is that lat spread from whatever movie that was (enter the dragon?) when he's standing on the scaffolding or whatever it was. fucking bad ass pic. i want a giant poster of that pic - motivation right there.

:bukkake brucelee by viciously flying kick to the skull@!:gaysex

I think he would do well in his weight class but would be beaten eventually by someone bigger than him.

he'd kick ass

Sorry guys I know his a legend, but he'll get his ass kicked. His quick, but no power. Wandy will hurt him.

Sorry!

i think he could definitely compete at his weight, seemed to have a knowledge of grappling and obviously an extensive background in striking. plus his frightening conditioning and power for his size.

hed probably be the best if he had some time to update himself with modern techniques cuz apparently his learning speed was incredible

He trained grappling with Judo Gene Labbell who was in the first televised mma match and is a Judo legend who trained Karo. Bruce studied every martial art actually even fencing.

if he doesn't have grappling..he would get killed..

I don't care what anybody says.

He knew both grappling and striking very well. But would he have made it in MMA, well it would seem so, but what do we know about his chin etc.?

it's very hard to say how he would do..but he never would compete, and he will never know how good he is with adrenaline rushes and everything.

Bruce won a boxing competetition and a couple karate tournaments

bruce lee would be awesome at his weight class...size and strength means very little in mma (look at royce gracie, miletich, crocop and some of the other top guys, they're all pretty weak looking) its all about speed, striking power, and endurance

bruce lee was who knows what hell do i bn mma

I think he would do decent, but who knows this stuff, not to be mean but why bother hes dead, we will never find out

Well i think he wouldnt be that good because he was all stand up. Who knows if he would be good on the ground

Whilst Bruce Lee would very probably be the most powerful fighter P4P in his weight class, he lacked the grappling techniques of many of today's mixed martial artists and many of his techniques would be against the rules of most recognised mma tournaments. Whilst his cardio training was superb he would be 65 years old now, so that might well go against him. LOL

He would be great, you have to remember that he died early and was still evolving as a Martial Artist. I'm pretty sure that if someone was able to get him to the ground in a fight, he'd be training for it the next day.

Would he even want to compete in MMA?

He was ahead of his time then, but would be behind the times now.

He was fast as hell too, but I think Jet Lee is faster.

In my opinion Bruce Lee is one of the founding fathers of mma. Although he never got to see it progress into the era of the gracies he always promoted full contact fighting and using whatever methods available to defeat an opponent, barring no martial art. He intended Jeet Kun Do to be the end all be all of martial arts and if his followers hadn't followed his art so literally it would have. He would have incorperated Gracie Jiu Jitsu into Jeet Kun Do as soon as he witnessed it's efficiency. I'm sure he would have adapted his striking methods to include alot more Muay Thai as well. In my opinion Bruce Lee had the exact idea of what a proper mmartist should be, he just died and his art was left to those who didn't fully understand what he was getting at. If he hadn't died we might as well be calling mma jeet kun do. That's my opinion.

If you read tao of jeet kune do you will realize that this mans life was all about the science behind fighting

i hear a bunch of you guys saying that bruce lee had no power... i beg to differ. theres videos around showing him completely ROCKING a heavy back with hooks and huge kicks. the man used to train by kicking TREES for God's sake. one of the guys he trained talked about how he SAW bruce lee split a heavy bag completely open with a side kick.

furthermore, bruce lee was a true proponent of MMA. he studied all different martial arts and incorporated them all together. in fact, i think he would be hindered by most mma rules. i read a biography about him, and he actually said his high kicks were only for film. in a true fight, he only recommends low kicks to the kneecaps. his kicks were lightning quick too. he'd kick kneecaps, punch people in the throat; dirty fighting basically. but he'd win.

also, a few of you have compared bruce lee to movie martial artists like van damme, but you couldnt be further off. van damme would weight train for his physique, kinda like some of the muscle bound guys in mma these days. bruce lee trained to be an effective fighter. he was a true martial artist first and foremost, and then he was an actor. he trained his explosiveness, he quickness, all to be an effective fighter.

bruce lee was similar to the gracies in that he believed his style was better than any other. as a martial artist, he was constantly challenged by fighters. i read about how he was challenged by muay thai fighters in thailand and he would stop filming in the middle of a scene to kick their ass and then continue a scene. hes no van damme, getting knocked out in a strip club. bruce lee would step up to anyone that challenged him and he never lost.

honestly, in today's mma, bruce lee would succeed. why? he had the mentality and the mindset for it and he was motivated as hell.

He was fast as hell too, but I think Jet Lee is faster.

noway jet li was faster. in one of his movies, bruce lee does a kick to the stomach and then a kick to the head of some guy and it takes like literally half a second. 2 kicks in under a second is ridiculous.

theres all kinds of little anecdotes about bruce lee's speed.

one was about how a pro boxer who was proud of his hand speed met bruce lee at a premiere and asked bruce if he was faster than him. they played a game where the boxer held a dime in hand and stood an arms length away from bruce lee. bruce was supposed to stand with his arms at his side and try to snatch the dime out of the boxers hand. they played and the boxer closed his hand as soon as he saw bruce move. he felt the coin in his hand and knew he won and when he opened his hand, there was a penny instead of a dime. bruce lee had swapped the coin.

He would be great, you have to remember that he died early and was still evolving as a Martial Artist. I'm pretty sure that if someone was able to get him to the ground in a fight, he'd be training for it the next day.

theres some quote about bruce lee that is exactly what you said. one of his students essentially said "bruce lee was a guy if you show him something new one day, the very next time you saw him he'd be better than you at it."

i should really dig up the biography i have on him. lots of cool stuff.

Some of you guys make it sound like Bruce Lee had mystical powers and fighting skills unequaled. That's malarky. He was an intelligent man who understood fighting better than and before most around the world, that is all. His plan for the martial arts was to disband all the crap about 'mystical skills', I think it's funny that most people don't understand that and proceed to apply the 'superhero' skills to him. Irony baby.

he was one of the fathers of mma and willing to except new things. If he were alive and young when it became popular he would do well. The original guys when mma became popular were either caught up on styles or had no martial art skill. He was neither of these. So he would of done good in the early-mid 90s, and with training, could do good now.

Bruce Lee was a prophet of MMA.

It must have been frustrating back then to be one of the only ones who knew what all of us now know.

From what I've seen in training with Sifu Dan Inosanto I think the game of MMA would have been so much different than what it is today. Inosanto is an innovator and at 60+ the man has studied everything even capoeira. If bruce were alive I think the game of mma would have been catapulted a lot faster. I think it took a long time for it to grow and that was due to people wanting to stick to old tradions and styles and Bruce was one who didn't believe in either.

From what I've seen in training with Sifu Dan Inosanto I think the game of MMA would have been so much different than what it is today. Inosanto is an innovator and at 60+ the man has studied everything even capoeira. If bruce were alive I think the game of mma would have been catapulted a lot faster. I think it took a long time for it to grow and that was due to people wanting to stick to old tradions and styles and Bruce was one who didn't believe in either.

wow you met Dan Inosanto?

Had to come here and pay my respects to Bruce Lee. The man was a physical fucking specimen. He dedicated his life to the science of fighting and breaking away the bullshit that surrounded a lot of traditional martial arts. He knew back then what MMA fighters just found out 5 or 6 years ago.

"one was about how a pro boxer who was proud of his hand speed met bruce lee at a premiere and asked bruce if he was faster than him. they played a game where the boxer held a dime in hand and stood an arms length away from bruce lee. bruce was supposed to stand with his arms at his side and try to snatch the dime out of the boxers hand. they played and the boxer closed his hand as soon as he saw bruce move. he felt the coin in his hand and knew he won and when he opened his hand, there was a penny instead of a dime. bruce lee had swapped the coin."

Not to slag the legend of Bruce Lee, but I hear a lot of stories like that and I'm very skeptical about a lot of them, and whether they are true or not. I've read about Bruce being INCREDIBLY strong for his size (even that he was able to beat Bolo Yueng at arm wrestling).

I would do very good, thank you.

you have to understand your talking about bruce lee in the 70s
who already started cross training. working submissions he traind with gene lebelle. take the same genious of bruce lee who live for the martial arts and bring him in the present time and you would not have the 70s lee who was already a bad ass you would have a mma bruce that would kick major ass.
how about take all the mma fighters and put them back in the 70s then what would happen? bruce lee was the first to diss the classical mess and took shit from a lot of kungfu fighters for it and beat them with his jkd one of the first cross training styles if not the first bruces style foot work from fencing
western style boxing wrestling AND THAT WAS THE 70S year 2007 bruce would be wolverine without the claws

Bruce Lee is my personal Jesus.

There are home movies floating around of Bruce and Hawkings Cheung street fighting. I belive because of his study of lots of martial arts including grappling and his intense daily traing he would have owned in and above his weight class.

ohhh and this

http://encyclopedia.quickseek.com/images/thumb/200px-The.Way.Of.The.Dragon.1972.Bruce.Lee.flex.front.jp g

In all honesty I think Gene Lebelle would have beat any Gracie during his time.

Him and the Gracies were familiar with eachother.