There are no good singleplayer experiences anymore.

[aussjj]

Well there aren't.

When was the last time you played a good fps?
Not since FEAR, and FEAR was only good cause it was oldschool.
What about a platform game? Platform games are all the same Nintendo formulas rehashed a billion times.
What about a solid action rpg? Zelda is the only good franchise.

I'm the unfortunate human being that prefers a good singleplayer experience over online gameplay. There has never been a better shooter than Halflife and Unreal and those games are about 10 years old, and N64 is still the most fun console.

Anyone have my dilemna?

[twinmatrix101]

Nope.

Half Life 2
Oblivion
Kotor
Splinter Cell
the GTA games
ninja gaiden
God of war
Jet grind/set radio
shenmue 1 & 2
and pretty much any game on the DS

I named all those in like 30 seconds theres a ton more.

[Rynoplasty]

Oblivion pwns single player!

[aussjj]

Nope.

Half Life 2
Oblivion
Kotor
Splinter Cell
the GTA games
ninja gaiden
God of war
Jet grind/set radio
shenmue 1 & 2
and pretty much any game on the DS

I named all those in like 30 seconds theres a ton more.

Halflife 2 sucked.
Oblivion was good.
Kotor was decent, but turnbased is a bad system.
Splinter Cell was not all that great.
Ninja Gaiden is decent, but those type of games were all over the place back in the day.
GTA is fun for about 1 day.
God of War is one of the better PS2 games, almost all of which sucked.
I don't know Jet grind/set radio is.
I don't know what Shenmue is.
DS games are oldschool, so you are proving my point.

[aussjj]

This thread is mostly referring to fps and action rpg games, none of which are good nowadays.

Oldschool > Newschool.

[twinmatrix101]

This thread is mostly referring to fps and action rpg games, none of which are good nowadays.

Oldschool > Newschool.

Well Mass Effect is coming out soon. I don't know how good it's actually going to be but if hype is any indication it'll be the answer your action/rps prayers. As far as single player FPS's go your shit outta luck if you didn't like HL2, that game is about as close to perfection the FPS genre has ever seen.

and damn me to hell if episode 2 doesn't look like its going to be just as amazing.

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Maybe you should just quit playing games.

P.S. You owe it to yourself to buy a Dreamcast and get Shenmue, Jet Grind Radio, and Skies of Arcadia.

[Rynoplasty]

GTA fun for only one day? I put many hours into San Andreas. Combined hours for me on GTA games has to be something rediculous.

[aussjj]

Man play halflife 1 to realize how much better it is. Halflife 2 is like an arcade game.

[Dert McGert]

Half-Life 2 Episode 1 and 2 are coming to the 360. Include that with GTA4 and maybe H3, which is more focused around multiplayer, might be a good single player games. Look into Portals. That fucking game looks crazy. Fuck the story line, I will find you a video about it.
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[twinmatrix101]

Man play halflife 1 to realize how much better it is. Halflife 2 is like an arcade game.


I've played Half life 1 and its expansion packs Blue Shift and Opposing Force many many times. Half Life 2 dose everything those games do so much better. maybe you should turn the difficulty up or something.

[Rynoplasty]

Half-Life 2 Episode 1 and 2 are coming to the 360. Include that with GTA4 and maybe H3, which is more focused around multiplayer, might be a good single player games. Look into Portals. That fucking game looks crazy. Fuck the story line, I will find you a video about it.
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That game looks fucked up!

[ninjashoes]

I kinda know what your talking about its like its all online shit now. Online games kick ass but that type of gameplay isnt always what you want.

[aussjj]

I kinda know what your talking about its like its all online shit now. Online games kick ass but that type of gameplay isnt always what you want.

yes that is what I'm referring to. I grew up on N64 action games and shooters like Unreal and Halflife. The only good shooter I've played recently was Fear because it was designed like the original halflife. Everyone like Halflife 2 and Halo now. Halflife 2 is like a mindless action arcade game, and Halo 2 isn't even that good, peopel only think it is because most console fps's suck.

[Nasty Nate]

ANUS

[dylan]

gaming is def. taking a turn to multi-player online shit........mmo stuff is really pickin up. i hear WARHAWK for PS3 is strictly multiplayer

if i buy a game, i want the story mode or single player mode AND a multiplayer mode not just multiplayer

[aussjj]

gaming is def. taking a turn to multi-player online shit........mmo stuff is really pickin up. i hear WARHAWK for PS3 is strictly multiplayer

if i buy a game, i want the story mode or single player mode AND a multiplayer mode not just multiplayer

Definately. IMO singleplayer is more fun, just doesn't last as long. But new games just seem to throw together a really cheap singleplayer to rush their online out the door.

[Evil]

Is ninja gaiden really fucking hard or do I just suck?

[Nasty Nate]

is that game worth buying? ive always thought about it, but in the meantime like 3 more cames out. so if i do get i duno where to start. this is also why i have never really gotten into the resident evil series but i wanna so bad lol

[Rynoplasty]

is that game worth buying? ive always thought about it, but in the meantime like 3 more cames out. so if i do get i duno where to start. this is also why i have never really gotten into the resident evil series but i wanna so bad lol

What game are you talking about? What you need to really buy is Oblivion since you have a 360.

[twinmatrix101]

Is ninja gaiden really fucking hard or do I just suck?

a little bit of both but don't worry everyone sucks when they first start, the game kicks your ass till your good.

[ninjashoes]

I actually like online games way more because it adds umlimited replayability.

[Rynoplasty]

I actually like online games way more because it adds umlimited replayability.

I think it really depends on the game, some online gameplay is great, but some is meh.

[Rynoplasty]

I actually like online games way more because it adds umlimited replayability.

Wierd, it keeps showing this as the last post in the thread even though I have one after this.

[skunknuts[ADR]]

Is ninja gaiden really fucking hard or do I just suck?

i read somewhere on IGN that only 10,000 people are estimated to beat Ninja Gaiden Black on master ninja mode, it is VERY fucking hard

took me 3 months to get past the horse boss on master ninja, i gave up on the fucking blimp lol

[FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz]

Man play halflife 1 to realize how much better it is. Halflife 2 is like an arcade game.

no, it's quite the opposite.

[aussjj]

no, it's quite the opposite.

That is the most blasphemous thing I have ever read on an internet forum.

Well, it's way up there anyway.

[aussjj]

Halflife 2 sucked ass. You ride an underground railroad through an enemy fortification on a fan boat while shooting missles and flaming barrels out of the air being dropped from a helicopter. You also use 2 bricks to counterbalance your weight to run up a seesaw ramp in a game with supposed ground-breaking physics. Enemies also spawn in unlimited numbers and always have the jump on you buts its ok because you have more brute force and unlimited lives. Oh well, I guess your the kind of person who also thinks counterstrike kicks ass for it's "realism".

[VicDienekes]

I always prefered Unreal to Half-Life. The Half-Life multiplay blows, and the single player campaigns were the prime example of games developers ego getting in the way of a good story.

Play timeshift were it comes out on 360 bitches.

[Rynoplasty]

I always prefered Unreal to Half-Life. The Half-Life multiplay blows, and the single player campaigns were the prime example of games developers ego getting in the way of a good story.

Play timeshift were it comes out on 360 bitches.

U.T.'s multiplayer is teh best ever. I was always kind of meh about half-life and counterstrike.

[twinmatrix101]

Halflife 2 sucked ass. You ride an underground railroad through an enemy fortification on a fan boat while shooting missles and flaming barrels out of the air being dropped from a helicopter.

Yes that’s the first part of the game I don’t see what it has to do with HL2 sucking ass. It’s not like that’s the only thing you do in the entire game maybe you didn’t play any more then that?

You also use 2 bricks to counterbalance your weight to run up a seesaw ramp in a game with supposed ground-breaking physics.

That would be the first puzzle of the game you can also get passed that puzzle by simply stacking the bricks like steps. I don’t see what that has to do with the physics or the game being bad.

Enemies also spawn in unlimited numbers and always have the jump on you

No they don’t.

buts its ok because you have more brute force and unlimited lives.

Would you rather have 10 lives and once you lose them its game over?

Oh well, I guess your the kind of person who also thinks counterstrike kicks ass for it's "realism"

I like Counter Strike for its kickass gameplay its not close to being realistic. You certainly make a lot of assumptions about what other people think.

[aussjj]

I played about halfway through the game, to be fair.

The underground railroad WAS SO RIDICULOUS that I had trouble taking the game very seriously. Of course, it's not like I was wowed before that point, Fear is a prime example of what HL2 should have been.

Yes, enemies do have the jump on you extremely often. They are often pinning you down or waiting to ambush you. In the original Halflife, you always had the jump on them, except in one level - surface tension. No you should not have a set number of lives, but games should not force trial and error. You should not have to know where people are before you see them.

[aussjj]

For the record, it was not a terrible game. A few parts were very silly, but the main reason I did not enjoy it is because it did not live up to the original. It was almost like halflife translated into an arcade game. Jesus Christ, trucks ride by and try to avalanche you with rolling barrels.

[twinmatrix101]

Maybe you should replay it with an open mind or something. Saying a game sucks ass that you didn't even entirely play through isn't exactly fair. The first part of game (the part you played) is all about running away to black mesa east. Once you hit Ravenholm the game transitions from a chase sequence into a more conventional FPS like HL1.

[aussjj]

Maybe you should replay it with an open mind or something. Saying a game sucks ass that you didn't even entirely play through isn't exactly fair. The first part of game (the part you played) is all about running away to black mesa east. Once you hit Ravenholm the game transitions from a chase sequence into a more conventional FPS like HL1.

That might make it better, the chase sequence reminded me of a bad action movie, and the tracking device was a poor excuse to make the enemies ambush you. Nonetheless, if the first half of the game sucks, its pretty hard to save it with a good end.

[aussjj]

Lets put it this way, action games are becomming more and more like bad actions movies that star Nicoloas Cage.

[twinmatrix101]

That might make it better, the chase sequence reminded me of a bad action movie, and the tracking device was a poor excuse to make the enemies ambush you. Nonetheless, if the first half of the game sucks, its pretty hard to save it with a good end.


The water trap chapter is only like 1/6th of the game. If the entire game was like that theres no way it would be one of the highest rated games ever. I think the "holy shit I've gotta flee" action scene is a good way to start the game, it dose go on a little to long but once the pace dies down and it goes back to it's more traditional roots you kind of appreciate it more.

[Trolly]

Resident Evil 4
Guitar Hero
Katamari Damacy
Gears of war (though short)
Crackdown
Final Fantasy XII (which is real time)
Ghost Reacon 2 on 360
Dead Rising
Paper Mario on Wii

I agree with every title on that first list too. as far as the ds goes i'd say more than half of the titles are touch screen interactive in a way that effects the gameplay. How can that be considered old school.

[aussjj]

Resident Evil 4
Guitar Hero
Katamari Damacy
Gears of war (though short)
Crackdown
Final Fantasy XII (which is real time)
Ghost Reacon 2 on 360
Dead Rising
Paper Mario on Wii

I agree with every title on that first list too. as far as the ds goes i'd say more than half of the titles are touch screen interactive in a way that effects the gameplay. How can that be considered old school.

I agree with parts of your list, although Resident Evil 4 sucked for me, and Gears of War was overrated. In fact, all console shooters are overrated. Televisions aren't crisp enough for the picture quality demanded by a shooter, and controlers aren't versatile enough. Therefore, console shooters must also be designed differently to accomadate these factors. But the parts of your list I do agree with are more of platform/puzzle games or least have these type of elements. In the traditional sense of Halflife and Unreal, few good singleplayer games have come out nowadays. The last one was Fear. Most shooters seem to cater to the average hip crowd that enjoy bad action movies, while other action genres are button-masher arcade style games.

[Rynoplasty]

I agree with parts of your list, although Resident Evil 4 sucked for me, and Gears of War was overrated. In fact, all console shooters are overrated. Televisions aren't crisp enough for the picture quality demanded by a shooter, and controlers aren't versatile enough. Therefore, console shooters must also be designed differently to accomadate these factors. But the parts of your list I do agree with are more of platform/puzzle games or least have these type of elements. In the traditional sense of Halflife and Unreal, few good singleplayer games have come out nowadays. The last one was Fear. Most shooters seem to cater to the average hip crowd that enjoy bad action movies, while other action genres are button-masher arcade style games.

Oh come on, the quality of Gears in hd is definitely "crisp."

[ninjashoes]

I never played FPS for the single player since Doom2. I didn't know anyone did, I've always thought single player FPS were boring as hell.

The only one I've been able to play besides Doom was Halo which was very revolutionary with its AI.

[FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz]

aussjj is a whinny bitch. hl2 kicked ass, and thats why it's average review rate is above 95% while hl was 94% huh you fucking dumbass. stop trying to be old school poser and enjoy it, you wana be elilte faggot fucker.

[aussjj]

aussjj is a whinny bitch. hl2 kicked ass, and thats why it's average review rate is above 95% while hl was 94% huh you fucking dumbass. stop trying to be old school poser and enjoy it, you wana be elilte faggot fucker.

I'm very sorry that I prefer oldschool fps's to new ones, and that I actually gave an intelligent arguement as to why.

[FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz]

not really. You said it sucked ass so you clearly dont know what your talking about. And all the reviews out there will prove that. and hl1 was old school, in the fact that it play'd more like a gallery shooter then hl2 for the most part.
it seems to me hl2 might have been a bit to complicated for you, with your small brain. maybe you should go back and play doom.

why dont you enjoy games instead of crying about them like a little bitch.:wah:

[Fight Til Death]

HALF LIFE 2 is the meaning of life if anyone wants to hit me up on steam my acount is Clockwork1988

[aussjj]

not really. You said it sucked ass so you clearly dont know what your talking about. And all the reviews out there will prove that. and hl1 was old school, in the fact that it play'd more like a gallery shooter then hl2 for the most part.
it seems to me hl2 might have been a bit to complicated for you, with your small brain. maybe you should go back and play doom.

why dont you enjoy games instead of crying about them like a little bitch.:wah:

Yea I guess reviews are allways right being personal opinions and what not.
Halflife1 did not function like a gallery shooter nearly as much in the same way as Halflife2, if you actually read my posts, then you would understand where I'm coming from.
Admitingly, I only played the first half of the game, and the helicopter chase scenes, shooting missles out of the air, barrels out of the water, cars driving by rolling barrels down a hill on you, stupid physics puzzles, unlimited spawns in some areas, and enemies popping out from the sides and ambushing you, was exactly like an arcade shooter. Original Halflife on the other hand, was the complete opposite. The game was not at all like a fast-paced, mindless action movie. It was extremely real time, interactive, and progressive in the way an fps should be. It did not draw you away from the situation by using action movie cliches, and trying so hard to show off its physics engine that it actually just makes a fool out of itself. It was extremely raw.
Now, I will conclude by saying that Halflife2 WASN'T A TERRIBLE GAME! But it was clearly trying to appeal to the modern crowd that like bad Nicholas Cage movies, at least the first half of the game, anyway. Now, instead calling me an idiot, you could intelligent refute what I'm saying and back it up with real points, or we can just understand that they are two completely different games with two completely different target audiences.

[FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz]

:wah:




and lol at losers who spend time hating on games. get over it

[aussjj]

hey man I'm only stating that we need more oldschool games out nowadays. Never hated to begin with, I more of applauded old games like Halflife and Unreal and said we need more out now with the same style. It's your hatin that's getting me worked up, but it guess we're over it now.

[FRITZ Aint no bitch Diaz]

:wah:

[Dert McGert]

Right now there isn't too many games that aren't focused on multiplayer. With BioShock, GTA4, the Darkness, and countless other games coming out this year, it should get better.

[Rynoplasty]

Anybody played Spiderman 3 yet? I want to try that one out, I didn't play 1 or 2 really, but Ultimate Spiderman pwned.

[ItBurnzWhenIP]

Nobody likes the Metal Gear series? Tony Hawk... There are still lots of great 1 player games. Hell how about Civilization 4. Addicting as hell, just like the original ones.

[Rynoplasty]

I am playing Crackdown right now, that is a badass single player game as well.

[lazepunk]

Fable...........best game ever. Wait for the sequal later this year or early next. AWSOME.

[Rynoplasty]

Since I am playing it again I will say it again, Oblivion. I am playing the Shivering Isles Expansion pack right now and have about 138 saved hours in the game. If you include the times I didn't save I don't even want to think about how many hours I would have.