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yooooshi 04-16-2007, 02:02 AM I've been doing a bunch of research on nutrition and from what I've learned, milk is beneficial to humans in many ways. But when I look at a lot of fighters diets, I rarely see milk on it. Anybody know why fighters (and a lot of other athletes) tend not to drink much milk and stick to only water?
jetjaguar 04-16-2007, 03:53 AM Titties: the Grail of protien
Sepiku . 04-16-2007, 04:37 AM Muscle milk is on almost everyones list.
if you are cutting weight before a fight, milk is bad. otherwise, they prob do drink it.
Tom Stall 04-16-2007, 06:32 AM i dont drink milk....
jetjaguar 04-16-2007, 08:51 AM http://www.titsintops.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=20815
You need calcium when your bones and joints are taking alot of stress.
DieOff 04-16-2007, 05:37 PM CALCIUM
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.
MILK don't sound to good to me. Take Calcium pills.
Tom Stall 04-16-2007, 07:08 PM a certain poster once advocated the amount of one gallon of milk a day....
I get magnesium from a multi vitamin but thanks for the info.
yooooshi 04-16-2007, 08:07 PM thanks guys especially dieoff
IMAMEX 04-17-2007, 09:12 PM wow I never knew about that magnesium thing.
erskine777 04-19-2007, 09:02 AM i usually don't drink that much milk because it gives me a lot of gas...
SolitaryIndividual 04-19-2007, 09:22 AM one of the big pushes for milk and other dairy products recently has been because they contain cla which has a lot of benefits including its role in mitotrophic fat burning ... Muscle Milk is one of the best supplements out there, if used correctly, because its so dammnnnnn good you can easily go overboard with it
Bruce Lee 04-19-2007, 07:55 PM a certain poster once advocated the amount of one gallon of milk a day....
Yeah, that was Ven's stupid ass. And when he was challenged he just said, "well, it doesn't sound right to me either but that's what a boxing instructor told me once..."
About as credible as the guy who tells you pigs fly.
Bruce Lee 04-19-2007, 07:58 PM CALCIUM
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.
MILK don't sound to good to me. Take Calcium pills.
Hold up here. Don't know how many of you clicked on these links but it's not exactly from a respected medical journal. It's a few crack-pot doctors who are not peer reviewed... The whole "milk doesn't provide calcium" argument is based on the same sound science that Intelligent Design is. None.
sean damon 04-19-2007, 08:43 PM milk is the shit. i will continue to drink it.
ninjashoes 04-20-2007, 06:54 AM one of the big pushes for milk and other dairy products recently has been because they contain cla which has a lot of benefits including its role in mitotrophic fat burning ... Muscle Milk is one of the best supplements out there, if used correctly, because its so dammnnnnn good you can easily go overboard with it
muscle milk has a potentially dangerous creatine precursor in it that has been known to cause cardiac episodes
it does taste good though
cla is only in milk from grass fed animals, you have to get grass fed milk from health stores or just take cla by itself
regular milk might have some cla I cant remember though, they think people are fatter nowadays because in the old days people only drank milk and ate cheese from grass fed animals
Billy SexCrime 04-21-2007, 05:38 AM I drink alot of milk. 30 oz. a day. The gas thing is very true.
Rednirug 04-25-2007, 06:00 AM do all types of milk contain cla? Which contain the most? For example Homo, 2% 1% skim
ninjashoes 04-25-2007, 08:41 AM do all types of milk contain cla? Which contain the most? For example Homo, 2% 1% skim
you have to get special milk that comes from grass fed cows
regular milk comes from grain fed animals
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