I think message of islam has been misinterpreted by its leaders. This is the community which has produced some of the best philosophers and scientists. Somewhere people have forgotten its meaning.

What do you think?!? Can any religion be based on hatred. I think not.

Religions are supposed to be inclusve. The people seek divisions and exclusiveness. They want to prove their way to be superior. And they have no regard for the other person's way.

I think some do. But the core beliefs of most of the worlds major religions are peace and love.

I think you can learn a lot from MMA. just like classical martial arts are out dated and had to evolve. the same thing with religon. Now religon is outdated
and manipulated. If you look at the heart and soul of things. we all have the same values. we want health happyness. we all have a heart. i think religen is just an illusion. wash it all away. and weather you wear a jewish star,a cross, or anything else. at the hart we all share similiar values. religous symbols and flags can come and go and be munipulated. but the heart we all have inside is for real.

thats just one assholes view of things

I think its more like we forgot where we came from and what we came to do. We have forgotten our priorities. Religion is not being manipulated. Minds of people are. I agree and there is noo doubt that the waysmight be different but eventual destination is same.

P.S. You're a good guy, bro.

I was full of hate befor I found religion... being able to forgive people has made me a much happier person overall.

I was full of hate befor I found religion... being able to forgive people has made me a much happier person overall.


+10000000000000000000000000 for myself as well.

+10000000000000000000000000 for myself as well.

+1 more

i am a very spiritual perosn without attaching myself to a single religion. i grew up in a split household. one non believer, until he became baptist, and my mom a hardcore catholic.

Throughout history religion has been both helpful and harmful. I believe in the basic tenets and principles it is supposed to deliver. However, most of the time men corrupt it and use it for perosnal gain. This has had a pretty bad influence and has shown a bad track record.

Unfortunately, this has given a huge black eye and many find it great to bash on the true spiritual.faith based ppl along witht the hypocrites and fake ppl, instead of the real problem individuals.

Personally, I feel having my faith and beliefs have helped in my state of mind, mood, and overall well being. It may not be for anyone, but i dont push it on ppl who dont want it. if they are meant for it, then they will go that way, and vice versa.

I do find it funny when ppl try to act likethey are above other ppl and bash the other group for being what they really are. unfortunatey lots of ppl do this more for personal satisfaction then anythin else, from all sides of the spectrum.

I think some do. But the core beliefs of most of the worlds major religions are peace and love.

I think it is simply the core beliefs of people. Rather, I should say it a core belief of a stable community which translates into the core beliefs of surviving cultures and species. However, neither the Bible nor the Koran preaches exclusively peace and love. Religion cannot be argued as the reason people are good.

Also what makes you possibly think religions are naturally inclusive? (Most) Religions are necessarily exclusive. You must be part of an "in" group and have the favor of God(s) to be saved. Inclusive religions don't have a good reason to adhere strictly to the belief structure of that religion--afterall, you'll be saved either way right?

U see bro. All religions preach that God is one. So different religions are essentialy different ways of attaining salvation.

Of reaching 1 god. Preached by all different religions.

So there is no such thing as a polytheistic religion?

What if there is no such thing as salvation?

What if there is no such thing as salvation?

No big deal, but what if there is?

Of reaching 1 god. Preached by all different religions.

You need to distinguish between Monotheism (1 god) and Polytheism (many gods). As far as I know Hinduism is a major world religion based on Polytheism.

Every religion is not based on "reaching 1 god" or whatever you believe.

No big deal, but what if there is?

What if the Flying Spagettie Monster is god and he is going to boil you if you don't worship spagetti?

If there is no Flying Spagetti Monster, then big deal. But what if there is?

:gojerkit:

What if the Flying Spagettie Monster is god and he is going to boil you if you don't worship spagetti?

If there is no Flying Spagetti Monster, then big deal. But what if there is?

:gojerkit:

I see you point and if this Spegettie monster wrote a book that proves his truth I might agree.

I see you point and if this Spegettie monster wrote a book that proves his truth I might agree.

You've just been PWNT!

http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster/dp/0812976568

http://www.venganza.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

Now, all you have to do is prove to me that The Bible was written by God (and not man) to prove HIS truth. Good luck.

Man did write the bible, but it was inspired directly by God. I really can't prove it, you can only prove it to your self through faith in God.

Man did write the bible, but it was inspired directly by God. I really can't prove it, you can only prove it to your self through faith in God.

As long as we agree there is no factual, rational or logical basis for believing in God.

Reason > Faith

Greeks philosophy > Roman theology

Renaissance > Dark Ages

Round Earth > Flat Earth

Science > Book of Revelations

Evolution > Book of Genesis

I see you point and if this Spegettie monster wrote a book that proves his truth I might agree.

So you don't have faith that the Spagetti Monster really is god and can boil you. What if you're wrong?

So you don't have faith that the Spagetti Monster really is god and can boil you. What if you're wrong?

:gives:


I useto believe the same things as you Bruce, maby some day you will grow up too.

I showed you the book and the church website (all written by man, but inspired by teh FSM).

I presented you with the dichotomy: If you're right and there is no FSM, then big deal, no harm done. But if you're wrong??? You could boil forever!!!!

But, alas, not even the fear of eternal boiling could manipulate you into buying my bullshit... ooops.. I mean, RELIGION.

Your lack of faith will be your undoing... I shall pray for your and your everlasting soul- that you may find salvation and redemtion in the FSM.

I already know the truth I don't need your advice. good luck with that whole space monster thing.

I already know the truth and don't need your advice... and good luck with your whole Santa Claus on a Cloud thing...

I'll pray for you.

^^^ I ALREADY SAID I'D PRAY FOR YOU!!!!!

I'll pray for you AND go to church on Wed for you. HA! Top that!

I'll pray for you.

Not if I pray for you first...

Well, I don't want to sound offensive or anything, but it is pretty clear the I ALONE know the truth and the way. So I will continue to pray for all of you.

Thanks anyway though.

It's funny how you changed your name AV and sig just to make a point... actually its more sad than anything.

It's funny how you changed your name AV and sig just to make a point... actually its more sad than anything.

Quite the contrary. I've been planning a change for a while. Some type of spin on religion was always a possibility. I would personally like to thank you for being the inspiration behind my finshed product.

Quite the contrary. I've been planning a change for a while. Some type of spin on religion was always a possibility. I would personally like to thank you for being the inspiration behind my finshed product.

In that case your welcome, lol :sifone:

Christinaity:

“Behold, the day of the
Lord cometh, cruel both with
wrath and fierce anger...”
-- Isaiah 13:9

"...They shall fall by the sword:
their infants shall be dashed in
pieces, and their women with child
(pregnant) shall be ripped up!"
direct quote from YHWH -- Hosea 13:16

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors and their families. The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions forever. 25:44-46

God will set the entire earth on fire so that he can burn non-believers to death. peter 3:7

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Whoever isn't found listed in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. 20:15 revelations

Islam

Quran 9.29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day ... "

Dont' bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has binded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

thats just a few of the many i could find, going through these made me fucking sick

What do you think?!? Can any religion be based on hatred. I think not.

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple." -- (Luke 14:26)

it doesn't teach hatred, but when applied to human prejudice it has the potential to create a very unaccepting, judgmental person

:gives:


I useto believe the same things as you Bruce, maby some day you will grow up too.

i don't see any correlation between growing up and becoming religious

it's possible to be a good person without believing in supernatural mumbo jumbo. The major positive role of monotheistic religions was the unifying of divergent cultures;christianity- the roman empire, islam- middle east, north africa, indonesia. Now that media and internet are making world wide communication so much easier then need for these childish magic feathers is greatly diminished.

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Dumbo-and-Timothy-Mouse-The-Magic-Feather-Print-C12547957.jpeg

some religions do, along with worshipping oneself.

My beliefs belive both are wrong but at the same time it's natural. So naturally some belief systems will embrace it.

http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/other/fsm.jpg