Shawn Michaels is the second best in ring performer ever next to Bret Hart.

i agree

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET!

DAMMIT!

I agree but Rock, Austin and Hogan were good too.

I've never seen him have a bad match. He's a natural, great look, athleticism, excellent on the mic, and balls the size of his home state of Texas. I'd put him third, behind Flair (he'll always be the man) and Bret.

HBK is a big talent because he kissed much ass in his WWF/E history unlike bret who didnt. Not doubting his skills at all im just stating the facts, bret was a tech wiz and HBK was more of the "high flying" fan fav when it came to his flashy stuff. Too bad cena is going to wind up being a Hulk Hogan era type of champ for 2plus yrs or more...

hbk is a true veteran and it shows
but theres niggas in japan that are just insane

HBK is a big talent because he kissed much ass in his WWF/E history unlike bret who didnt. Not doubting his skills at all im just stating the facts, bret was a tech wiz and HBK was more of the "high flying" fan fav when it came to his flashy stuff. Too bad cena is going to wind up being a Hulk Hogan era type of champ for 2plus yrs or more...

I disagree, Micheals is no Brett Hart by a longshot but he deserves more credit than that for his talent. The guy bladed in midair before!

i don't think hulk hogan was that great of a wrestler. i just think he had really good charisma.

i don't think hulk hogan was that great of a wrestler. i just think he had really good charisma.


Hogan was all charisma. paved the way for guys like cena stone cold
rock and triple h and all the other 3 or 4 move guys

but if it wasnt for hogans pop in the 80s i woulndt have known about wrestling as long as i have

Triple H is one of the best guys in the business no doubt so you don't know shit about what you are talking about. Triple H can make someone else look good and carry them... Just like HBK did at wrestlemania they carried Cena for 30 minutes.

Cena is really terrible and whats funny is that it's seemed like he's gotten worse his wrestling looks really really fake.

Triple H is one of the best guys in the business no doubt so you don't know shit about what you are talking about. Triple H can make someone else look good and carry them... Just like HBK did at wrestlemania they carried Cena for 30 minutes.

Cena is really terrible and whats funny is that it's seemed like he's gotten worse his wrestling looks really really fake.

yeah HHH is one of the best guys in the biz i agree

but hes no tiger mask masato tanaka or rob van dam

hes a great ring general
mabe you read my comment wrong

HHH is very underrated, hes one of those guys whos better at making the other guy look good rather than himself.

Hogan is horrible, hes one of the worst of all time lol. Him, the Rock and Stonecold are all about charisma like others have said, Stonecold does have technical ability though hes just too injured to use it. The Rock has put on some good performances, its hard to know where to rate him, hes def not on the level of someone like benoit though.

yeah mabe hhh is a little better then all those hogan and cena niggas

but hes still no masato tanaka that nigga take full chair shots to the head
and get german suplexed on his head over and over like nothin
its like he wants brain damage niggaz crazy

yeah i was thinkin over all pro wrestling but talkin wwe hhh is really great

I fucking hate Cena's hand finishing move, whatever the fuck it is called. It is a shame that the WWE has to push a cornfed "THUG" whitedude as their poster boy. There are plenty of much more talented wrestlers out there who get the short end of the stick. I am not a big wrestling fan anymore but I do enjoy a good show and the best matches that I have seen as of late usually involve Matt Hardy.

Bret and HBK are 1 and 2 no doubt. HBK's my all time favourite and the reason I started watching again, T'was a great moment when he won the title in the Elimination Chamber match, good times.

It was awful watching Shawn tap to Cena's shit submission, I hate seeing top guys tap to Cena.

I remember when Cena was a heel and people started giving him a face pop, next thing you know hes main eventing.

Jeff and Matt Hardy will never main event like Cena because they are fuckin horrible on the mic and nothing seems to help them. Matt is alot better but Jeff just has to shut up and get his body destroyed.

the hardys will always be the most over with the fans as a tag team
its what they do best

You know the thing is Cena is great as a heel, when he would come out and do his freestyles (which he actually wrote them all) <--- the reason why he stopped doing these is cause he would have to get them all cleared by the people backstage and he would have to change it over and over again cause he was pretty dirty with the things he'd say. Either way the guy has great mic skills he can actually give a decent match if he doesn't try to rush it... I dunno it's hard to explain... he's a power moves guy and I dunno it can be good but cena as of like for the last 2 years he's had to be carried by all these good guys every week to put on a decent main event...

Like I said eariler look at the last two wrestlemanias you got Cena vs HHH <-- number one in my book... then Cena vs HBK <--- number 2 in my book... as far as carrying guys in a match.

Steve Austin and the rock actually could carry people well two another two greats that had everything.

We also can't forget to mention Kurt Angle probably the best wrestler ever and his mic skills are so good.

Christian also has some of the best mic skills ever...

You know the thing is Cena is great as a heel, when he would come out and do his freestyles (which he actually wrote them all) <--- the reason why he stopped doing these is cause he would have to get them all cleared by the people backstage and he would have to change it over and over again cause he was pretty dirty with the things he'd say. Either way the guy has great mic skills he can actually give a decent match if he doesn't try to rush it... I dunno it's hard to explain... he's a power moves guy and I dunno it can be good but cena as of like for the last 2 years he's had to be carried by all these good guys every week to put on a decent main event...

Like I said eariler look at the last two wrestlemanias you got Cena vs HHH <-- number one in my book... then Cena vs HBK <--- number 2 in my book... as far as carrying guys in a match.

Steve Austin and the rock actually could carry people well two another two greats that had everything.

We also can't forget to mention Kurt Angle probably the best wrestler ever and his mic skills are so good.

Christian also has some of the best mic skills ever...

angle had terrible mic skills. but in ring performer 2nd to hart was hands down kurt angle

Theres alot of guys I would rank ahead of Kurt.

Theres alot of guys I would rank ahead of Kurt.

like who?

like who?

Jericho, Benoit, Owen Hart, Eddie, Mysterio, Sting, Roddy Piper, Curt Hennig

theres more, its hard for me to remember though

I've never seen him have a bad match. He's a natural, great look, athleticism, excellent on the mic, and balls the size of his home state of Texas. I'd put him third, behind Flair (he'll always be the man) and Bret.

:thatsgay:

Jericho, Benoit, Owen Hart, Eddie, Mysterio, Sting, Roddy Piper, Curt Hennig

theres more, its hard for me to remember though

jericho, il say maybe,benoit's best matches were with angle,owen hart had good matches but not that good,eddie could flat out wrestle,mysterio fucking sucks,sting is a bitch,piper was more of an entertainer out of the ring(on the mic,silly shit, mr. perfect is up there.

jericho, il say maybe,benoit's best matches were with angle,owen hart had good matches but not that good,eddie could flat out wrestle,mysterio fucking sucks,sting is a bitch,piper was more of an entertainer out of the ring(on the mic,silly shit, mr. perfect is up there.

hmm benoits best matches were with eddy imo

when I think of great in ring performers I dont really think of Angle although he is good he just doesent create a work of art in there like HBK

dude rey is a good wrestler being used in a shitty situation. See his old shit and see who trained him and you'll see he's got some good shit. I feel some of benoit's best matches were in WCW with brett hart. They did a really good tribute match for owen hart which was touched upon in the bret hart dvd. I would def. rank Bret Hart as the greatest.

angle had terrible mic skills. but in ring performer 2nd to hart was hands down kurt angle

Yes had, 1 year later he went from green to gold... his promos are fucking classic.

angles mic skills are legendary

the heel Kurt Angle is classic shit but I would love to see a face Kurt Angle again in the future

angles mic skills are legendary

the heel Kurt Angle is classic shit but I would love to see a face Kurt Angle again in the future

He seriously is one of the greatest of all times... I hope he lives forever and lays off the painkillers and doesn't die.

Angle in his prime can not be fucked with

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/WWE_Album/Images/KURT_ANGLE2.JPG

Shawn Michaels is the second best in ring performer ever next to Bret Hart.

He really is,however I went to a WWE event here at Target Center once and it was total dogshit(was'nt a show,just part of the tour)HBK vs. Ric Flair,a couple of the best performers in history and it was the worst match i've ever seen in my life,we almost left I was so dissapointed.

WAR MICHAELS AND HIS FIRST TITLE REIGN!!!!!

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^^^What he said.

WAR MICHAELS AND HIS FIRST TITLE REIGN!!!!!

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at this point it would be such a step up if he could take the strap from cena and cena got pushed down to mid card status! In a perfect world maybe.

WAR MICHAELS AND HIS FIRST TITLE REIGN!!!!!

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in the words of bret hart "fuck the boytoy!"

The Best There Is........ Bitches!
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