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blackthorne
02-21-2007, 01:40 AM
This place is a fucking mortuary, but let's hear em'.

ninjashoes
02-21-2007, 04:44 AM
bribe them with money

its cheaper than an invasion

HarshReality
02-21-2007, 03:29 PM
IMO IRan is poking a feeding lion.. When that lion is hungry again iran will not be forgotten...

IMO there just keeping the US on their toes and somewhat distracted, unfortlunatly for the US there only fully co-operative ally in the region is Israel.. Iran seems to have more friends in the region and that could become a seriuos problem very soon..

Dirty Danza
03-10-2007, 06:00 PM
Invasion.

LostCyborg
03-12-2007, 03:29 AM
uh god another war the US will be doing alone..Iran, and they're no pushover like Iraq. Hey who knows what the future holds for us all i know it doesnt look bright.

Blunt Object [ADR]
03-12-2007, 03:30 AM
nuke em

CHE
03-12-2007, 04:45 AM
BluntObject50 [ADR];399159']nuke em

+1

4 reals tho, we help them and they bitch and hate us, we dont help and they bitch and hate us. it doesnt matter. we leave over there, they come over here, its pure hatred they have against us(not all of them, but quite a few) and nothin we do, even remove all our forces from every inch of muslim soil, give them tons of aid, and/or renounce our support of israel will make them like us.

Blunt Object [ADR]
03-12-2007, 05:07 AM
but for real i'm kinda tired of talking about this subject since i took an international relations course last semester that was mainly concerning iran and north korea. it was quite interesting.

HarshReality
03-12-2007, 03:00 PM
let israel do something, Iran/iraq/taliban is a bigger threat to israel than the usa yet usa is doing the killing while israel si still crying like a little bitch.. STFU and get your hands dirty you stupid little cunt.. you instiageted some of this shit through the pallestinians, so deal with it...

LostCyborg
03-13-2007, 06:48 AM
Funny how Iran was once the biggest friends the US back in the 40s 50s 60s until the uprising and then it all went to shit.

VicDienekes
03-14-2007, 01:29 PM
uh god another war the US will be doing alone..Iran, and they're no pushover like Iraq. Hey who knows what the future holds for us all i know it doesnt look bright.

Alone?

Way to say thanks for the support, dipshit. Remind me to pass on your gratitude to the dead British serviceman that stood alongside American soldiers- all of whom are probably better men than you I might add- and those who remain stationed in the most volatile regions of Iraq where their greater experience of fighting against insurgents is best placed.


BTW Everyone is a pushover when you have the capacity to blow up the planet ten times over. Quit talking like the maintainence of American nuclear firepower is less of a threatening gesture a couple of suicide bombers, or as if they present a greater danger to you than you do to them.

cheeses of nazareth
03-14-2007, 08:30 PM
uh god another war the US will be doing alone..Iran, and they're no pushover like Iraq.

You forgot Poland.

Sepiku .
03-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Carpet bomb them until no one is left. Don't even step foot in iran.

VicDienekes
03-14-2007, 08:57 PM
Carpet bomb them until no one is left. Don't even step foot in iran.

A couple of thousand years or so after the sacking of Carthage, you'd think people might have had time to figure out where Hannibal went wrong and act accordingly. I guess that's monkeys for you.

Sepiku .
03-14-2007, 09:14 PM
A couple of thousand years or so after the sacking of Carthage, you'd think people might have had time to figure out where Hannibal went wrong and act accordingly. I guess that's monkeys for you.

Right, your right. We should allow a country who intend on genocide to get a genocidal weapon rather than beating them to the punch. I care little for any dichotomy implied in any statements I make. Iranians have the reasoning capacity of lions. Any people whom believe that salvation lies in the eradication of an entire heritage of people don't get my sympathies.

I would think that if we we're talking about hitler you'd feel different? Well we're not. Hitler at least knew when to stop. There people (and pay very close attention before you seem to try to assert your moral superiority) WILL NEVER STOP.

Only monkey's such as yourself would see this in any less than black and white.

VicDienekes
03-14-2007, 11:15 PM
Right, your right.


A) Hannibal was in a position to sack Rome and decided against doing so, which allowed Rome to amass more forces, beat his armies and raze Carthage to dust. Its previously dominant culture was subjugated and its wealth and freedoms stolen. Perhaps this clarifies my earlier agreement with your proposition.

B) If Hitler knew when to stop, he wouldn't have invaded Russia and declared war on America before he'd finished conquering Europe.

C) What you think are my beliefs, thoughts and feelings on any given subject is irrelevant as you have no idea what they are.

D) You aren't an Iranian expert. You'll find that i) they are as unreasonable as most people and ii) generally don't think annihilation of heirtages is the path to salvation.

E) I don't believe I'm morally superior to anyone- whereas you clearly feel superior to what you describe as the irrational Iranians. Odd really, considering you can't even see when to use “their” and when to use “there”.

Sepiku .
03-14-2007, 11:32 PM
A) Hannibal was in a position to sack Rome and decided against doing so, which allowed Rome to amass more forces, beat his armies and raze Carthage to dust. Its previously dominant culture was subjugated and its wealth and freedoms stolen. Perhaps this clarifies my earlier agreement with your proposition.

B) If Hitler knew when to stop, he wouldn't have invaded Russia and declared war on America before he'd finished conquering Europe.

C) What you think are my beliefs, thoughts and feelings on any given subject is irrelevant as you have no idea what they are.

D) You aren't an Iranian expert. You'll find that i) they are as unreasonable as most people and ii) generally don't think annihilation of heirtages is the path to salvation.

E) I don't believe I'm morally superior to anyone- whereas you clearly feel superior to what you describe as the irrational Iranians. Odd really, considering you can't even see when to use “their” and when to use “there”.

A) Hannibal references no longer apply to modern carpet bombing as you see, they don't expend soldiers.

B)Hitler killed himself because he realized the war was currently in ruins. Radical Islamics will sacrifice their own children for land. Strap bombs to their chest and think their sending them to a better place. That better place happens to be stuck in ceilings and carpets and windows.

C) If your beliefs are not exactly what you implied (A couple of thousand years or so after the sacking of Carthage, you'd think people might have had time to figure out where Hannibal went wrong and act accordingly. I guess that's monkeys for you.) then you are then your as stupid as you are wrong. The initial comment had no bearing on anything I said as I never said "Invade". I said never set foot in Iran but you we're too stupid to read that.

D) And neither are you, so you'll see that you know as little as you claim I do.

E) I never described myself as moraly superior. Only less homicidal than the same people you now defend. I find it interesting that you'd defend someone in the same blood as hitler and yet condemn me for playing by his rules.

The issue is as simple as this. The iranian leader wishes for all jews to be dead. The iranian people overwhelmingly support him. If by that reasoning which are FACT, we would see that the only solution for people that sleep eat and breath death, would be to give them the only thing they live for. And in terrific fashion.

VicDienekes
03-15-2007, 12:26 AM
So...you still haven't twigged that I think carpet bombing is the answer. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone stupid with such an inability to punctuate. It takes little intellect to do so. However, you demonstrably can not grasp the simple structure of the english language.

How is Hannibal's choice not to destroy Rome when he could not be stopped only for Rome to later wipe out his civilisation not germane? We could destroy Iran, and are presented with the choice to do so or not. We have seen what happens when a civilisation that could destroy a potential threat does not do so (see Hannibal and Carthage), so why would we not destroy the threat with total, crushing force?

More to the point, or back to the one I implied originally for that matter (but apparently your lack of knowledge prevented you from infering), how could anyone possibly think to do anything but? History has already shown us the rewards of mercy, but it seems to me few people appreicate the lesson.

Sepiku .
03-15-2007, 12:34 AM
So...you still haven't twigged that I think carpet bombing is the answer. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone stupid with such an inability to punctuate. It takes little intellect to do so. However, you demonstrably can not grasp the simple structure of the english language.

How is Hannibal's choice not to destroy Rome when he could not be stopped only for Rome to later wipe out his civilisation not germane? We could destroy Iran, and are presented with the choice to do so or not. We have seen what happens when a civilisation that could destroy a potential threat does not do so (see Hannibal and Carthage), so why would we not destroy the threat with total, crushing force?

More to the point, or back to the one I implied originally for that matter (but apparently your lack of knowledge prevented you from infering), how could anyone possibly think to do anything but? History has already shown us the rewards of mercy, but it seems to me few people appreicate the lesson.

So now you're the spelling police? Does it get worse? Inferring is spelled with 2 r's btw. Your I in appreciate is in the wrong spot. You spelled Civilization wrong twice even. Look if your gonna flame do it right and don't make yourself look like a retard in the process. Also, English is spelled with a capital.

Your heart is in the right place but your reasoning is flawed. Learn to take criticism.

VicDienekes
03-15-2007, 12:49 AM
As for your comments on Hitler...they don't support your original that he knew when to stop at all. In fact, they do the opposite as he would have not have been in his final position if he didn't go as far as he did...he would controlled Europe instead.

I didn't defend any Iranians. I just don't believe they are incapable of reason- which you claim they all are on the basis a minority of them are lunatics. If that is true, you are as reasonable as a lion because a minority of westerners are lunatics.

Further, I didn't say you said you were morally superior. I said you clearly felt you were superior to them. The evidence being your derogatory descripton of them and the fact you are content to judge them. Its hypocritical of you to accuse me of not reading your text whilst failing to pay attention to mine.

I've never condemned your position at all. Just your ignorance.

In a dicatorship, everyone overtly supports their government if they can't remove it. Or they die.

Sepiku .
03-15-2007, 01:01 AM
As for your comments on Hitler...they don't support your original that he knew when to stop at all. In fact, they do the opposite as he would have not have been in his final position if he didn't go as far as he did...he would controlled Europe instead.

I didn't defend any Iranians. I just don't believe they are incapable of reason- which you claim they all are on the basis a minority of them are lunatics. If that is true, you are as reasonable as a lion because a minority of westerners are lunatics.

Further, I didn't say you said you were morally superior. I said you clearly felt you were superior to them. The evidence being your derogatory descripton of them and the fact you are content to judge them. Its hypocritical of you to accuse me of not reading your text whilst failing to pay attention to mine.

I've never condemned your position at all. Just your ignorance.

In a dicatorship, everyone overtly supports their government if they can't remove it. Or they die.

You can stop pretending your smart. I just burned you so royally and you didn't have shit to say about it. So yeh. Ya suck kid.

VicDienekes
03-15-2007, 01:08 AM
So now you're the spelling police? Does it get worse? Inferring is spelled with 2 r's btw. Your I in appreciate is in the wrong spot. You spelled Civilization wrong twice even. Look if your gonna flame do it right and don't make yourself look like a retard in the process. Also, English is spelled with a capital.

Your heart is in the right place but your reasoning is flawed. Learn to take criticism.

I'm extremely dyslexic- so, no I'm not the spelling police. Grammar is a different matter.

I note you couldn't pass comment on what I said, only on me. Nice way of avoiding admitting how wrong you were to jump all over me for agreeing with you in the first place. Or the fact you didn't realise I was.

There aren't flaws in my reasoning. At least none you have uncovered yet.

I'm sorry, but it's late and typing with a wii-remote is painfully slow - I'll be happy to chat to you tomorrow but I have work in the morning and need my shut-eye.

good night.

VicDienekes
03-15-2007, 01:11 AM
You can stop pretending your smart. I just burned you so royally and you didn't have shit to say about it. So yeh. Ya suck kid.

Kid? Right........

Typing delay....and your “burn” didn't improve your arguments, it merely exposed your inability to defend them.

Sepiku .
03-15-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm extremely dyslexic- so, no I'm not the spelling police. Grammar is a different matter.

I note you couldn't pass comment on what I said, only on me.

good night.

1. Grammar has nothing to do with apostrophe's. It has to do with spelling.
2. You we're the first to go off topic and comment on spelling. How is it possible to try and throw that back in my face? That doesn't even make sense.

VicDienekes
03-16-2007, 10:00 AM
1. Grammar has nothing to do with apostrophe's. It has to do with spelling.
2. You we're the first to go off topic and comment on spelling. How is it possible to try and throw that back in my face? That doesn't even make sense.

1) It does in the case of "your" vs "you're". "There" and "their" are also grammatical inconsistencies when used in place of each other. These were the errors to which I refered.

2) I didn't try and throw it in back in your face. You're still avoiding commenting on the failure of your arguments. You will also note until now I have not gone off-topic at any point, as I have always refered to your claims whilst deriding the manner in which they were made. So it does make sense to point out you are avoiding answering my criticism, as that's what you have done- gone off topic completely.

Sepiku .
03-16-2007, 05:22 PM
1) It does in the case of "your" vs "you're". "There" and "their" are also grammatical inconsistencies when used in place of each other. These were the errors to which I refered.

2) I didn't try and throw it in back in your face. You're still avoiding commenting on the failure of your arguments. You will also note until now I have not gone off-topic at any point, as I have always refered to your claims whilst deriding the manner in which they were made. So it does make sense to point out you are avoiding answering my criticism, as that's what you have done- gone off topic completely.

1.Again that's not grammar.
2.I've already finished with that. If you need a recap just back peddle. In case you need help, those are the sentences behind these.

VicDienekes
03-16-2007, 08:59 PM
1.Again that's not grammar.
2.I've already finished with that. If you need a recap just back peddle. In case you need help, those are the sentences behind these.

1) Wow. "You're education sucked, your as wrong as you could be." That's how not to do things, right.

Shall we look at it closely?

"You are education sucked. The wrong belonging to you is as wrong as it could be."

It's a grammatical error, altering a sensible sentence into nonsense at worst or an unintended statement at best.

Simply saying no it isn't doesn't change the reality. Throw the Fountainhead away.

2)No, you never have once made a solid argument or supplied adequate defences (ie ones that withstood at least casual reasoning) for your excuses for them. You may be finished, but you haven't answered any criticism successful. You suck, kid.