View Full Version : getting buff and grappling
ninjashoes 02-15-2007, 09:06 PM I think having a massiev frame(arms, chest) is good for wrestling but honestly, does it makes it alot harder to pull off submissions?
I have been lifting weights pretty hard recently and I am thinking about stopping since I want to take some jujutsu lessons in the near future.
nzjujitsu 02-15-2007, 09:38 PM it depends on what the school you are going to teaches. some bjj schools teach a power game and some teach a technique game. but being flexible is what its all about.
leedor 02-16-2007, 11:22 PM alot of muscle will tire you out fast aswell
VTXRaider 02-17-2007, 03:54 AM As long as you can maintain your flexibility keep lifting.
yooooshi 02-17-2007, 08:19 PM many people say its not about strength in grappling... but I think strength helps a lot especially in no gi
Aussie 02-18-2007, 06:17 AM i thionk strength helps alot
AtomicKick 02-19-2007, 09:44 PM With Gi technique is by far more important without gi a very athletic person can do well if he has basic sub defense.
Tom Stall 02-20-2007, 12:49 AM i think grip strength is more important
VENDO 02-20-2007, 01:13 AM Don't get to big.
Try to get muscle, but lean muscle. Like shaolin, and etc.
To much muscle you can get injured.
CreatureCore 02-20-2007, 03:48 AM Thruthfully just stretch every morning and night. I mean stretch everything possible. Thatll help you more then anything else starting out. Personally im not huge. Im 5'9 and a very lean 140-145. I was doing muay thai for 3 years before i started doing bjj. My flexability in that helped me a ton. The more flexable you are the less energy youll exert being stacked or put in positions you didnt even know possible. I found myself having much more stamina then the bigger guys, but i think thats more attributed to the stamina needed and trained for in muay thai.
Titanium 02-28-2007, 02:50 AM I train with a guy who is about 5'6" and 200lbs of solid muscle (His combined Bench Press, Squat and Deadlift - all for one rep is 1350lbs). His arms and legs are so big that its really hard to apply any type of bar and his neck is almost too big to choke. His only major weakness due to the extra muscle is his cardio. He can tap me out a couple times in 5 minutes but then he needs to take a break, while I can keep going. Also, having excess muscle puts you into an unnatural weight class against people with naturally bigger frames and puts you at a disadvantage. Overall, I'd say that adding muscle would be to your advantage on the street but likely a disadvantage in competition unless you put on weight to put yourself in the heavier end of your weight class or you are a heavyweight (huge weight variation) or super heavyweight (no limit). BTW, the reason that he can submit me twice in 5 minutes has much more to do with his years of experience than his strength, which only helps a little.
alpha82425 02-28-2007, 07:43 AM too much muscle is kinda bad...but I still lift really heavy cause of strength...im a lightweight and still lifting as much as i was at 225...it's hard but if u can keep that strength it gives u an edge...but i still believe technique always beats it in the end
dynamitemitch 03-03-2007, 07:34 PM keep lifting but instead of straight bodybuilding exercizes do =stuff like power lifting movements, plyometrics and strength exercizes. Doing these you won't gain as much straight muscle
ninjashoes 03-04-2007, 11:25 AM I dont really see how someone with huge arms and legs can use their limbs to submit. You might be able to pull off armbars fine but I dont see Kevin Randleman being able to gogoplata.
dynamitemitch 03-04-2007, 06:52 PM I believe in building strength not so much size mainly because i have to cut weight to fight so most of my exercizes are based that way, to have more strength, but i believe myself to be a submission wrestler. Flexibility is also very important
ninjashoes 03-05-2007, 01:12 PM yeah I think being buff will help with submission defense but not with submissions, a strong back and hips are probably the best in a fight
VENDO 03-06-2007, 01:50 AM yeah I think being buff will help with submission defense but not with submissions, a strong back and hips are probably the best in a fight
are you looking to get stronger, and bigger?
jetjaguar 03-06-2007, 01:58 AM you have to be careful; if your not careful you could get tottaly huge without really meaning to.
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