What up Ninja Hommies?!? I just came back from a couple day road trip to visit the moms for a belated birthday (training log looks pretty sad right now) and long story short just sat down and took my first bong hit in like 12-14 hours. Anyways, I smoke a lot (look where I live!) and I regularly train high, by train I mean everything, bjj, muy thai, oly lifts, interval runs etc..........:sifone: had to stop for another binger............... ok what was I saying?

oh yea, so.... I know smoking a ton of weed (vaporized or not) can't be that good for my athletics, but I still feel I perfrom pretty highly (no pun intended, seriously), sometimes I feel if I'm really baked and working really hard, like doing king of the hill drills on the wrestling mats, I kinda lose concentration or have to concentrate really hard to push through the super tough parts of a workout. Anyways:sifone: , binged another,..... the recent surge of Thc made me want to pose some questions to YOU, my internet sparring partners.

1. Do you smoke weed on a regular or semi-regular basis?
2. If Yes to #1, how much?
3. Do you train?
4. Do you train high?
5. If yes to #4, are there any exceptions?
6. Ever compete high? ( I did a few time in rugby and it was a big mistake, dropped 3 kicks and would've been called for a 4th but the ref didn't see it, so I pretended like nothing happened and ran 55 yards untouched before throwing my knee into the groin and my elbow into the throat of the biggest of their team all cluster fucked around mid field, damn I must be high as fuck, but I gotta say Ruby is soooo fucking awesome (especially if you watch it at a world class level)
7. Wanna tell me to quit posting threads while SUPER BAKED?:gives:
8. What MMA fighters do you think smoke weed on a regular basis? I'd say Baroni and maybe BJ and Mark Hunt (Island style bra, the fucking maui wowie and NZ has more outdoor than fucking people to smoke it)
9. Any boxers of BJJ guys (besides Eddie Bravo, duh!)?
10. Did you read Eddie Bravo's book MASTERBATING THE RUBBER GUARD?
11. If yes to #11, what the fuck did you think of that first chapter?? I give Eddie mad props for acknowledging he smoks herb, but to encourage everyone to smoke and tell them it will make them better fighters and grapplers seemed kinda strange. But then the part about how weed is really good for fucking girls on XTC and for coming back up after you take XTC just blew my fucking mind? I'm not sure its such good business sense, but I must give props to him for not hiding who he is. And, once you tap a Gracie in the ADCC chamionship you could probably tell people eating ground up leprecuan liver will make you a better fighter and you'd 100 people scouring around clovers and rainbows the next day.
12. Anything you want to ask or say about marijauana as it relates to MMA, training or anything in the biz?



Night potheads :sifone:

You can get high all you want, But I wont...but if you smoke weed, all that does is just make you less motivated to work and train.

I know I don't do drugs. the people that fight and do drugs , I really don't think they take their job serious then.

If your gonna train and fight, Don't do drugs man! Take training/fighting serious.

what a fucking waste.

what a fucking waste.

what is?

why a waste?

it's just his lifestyle, people live differently. if you only knew arona was a pothead, and im sure quentin jackson is also, and some other mma fighters. i have a feeling chuck does coke too.

oh & btw, saku smoked and drank throughout his whole career, go tell him "what a fuckin waste," the guy's a legend regardless.

to each his own but I personally dont smoke weed and If i did i def wouldnt do anything productive while high...

what a fucking waste.

ummm no offense to you personally, but a BIGGER WASTE

anime porn>weed
lol

Guess I just have to wait for some Eddie Bravo disciples to show up.

PS I think partying (not nec pot) is a big part of many fighters lives. The whole sympathic drive (flight vs fight response) is the same one that makes some of us enjoy getting high, fighting, any dantgerous shit, getting laid.... all plays to the same part of the brain

no rolling while high is a waste.


but it is a fucking waste anyway. lifestyle haha fucking queer. saku has been beaten retarted.

no rolling while high is a waste.


but it is a fucking waste anyway. lifestyle haha fucking queer. saku has been beaten retarted.

Hey, live anywhere near NorCal? By the way, YOU ARE A FUCKING QUEER for being into Cartoon Porn! Its called a real women..... trying having sex with one sometime, I mean what? you couldn't get hard thinking about the chubby girl down the street that won't even talk to you?

i dont train seriously at the moment but im tryin to get there. actually im thinking about just quiting teh tree...i love it, but in all honesty if being a fighter is wat i wanna do than i cant be a pothead too, thats jus me tho. i mean i'll probally still smoke here and there still, but the everyday bs has to go. and blackass, dont listen to fritz, he sucks ass.

i dont train seriously at the moment but im tryin to get there. actually im thinking about just quiting teh tree...i love it, but in all honesty if being a fighter is wat i wanna do than i cant be a pothead too, thats jus me tho. i mean i'll probally still smoke here and there still, but the everyday bs has to go. and blackass, dont listen to fritz, he sucks ass.

Thanks :) Good luck with the herbs and the fighting. Oh and just so you know, I'd say half our fight team or more smokes weed and in the last year we are 10-2.

Blackass.....well it seams to me that you have some principles backass turned around, dont take this personal cause i mean no harm to you when i say this, ok...... i smoked or smoke (still in the process of quiting) for 26 yrs, not just a bowl or joint or bong here or there im talking smoked. i would go through a 1/4 by myself in 2 days, if that, not quite sure if you know all the facts about weed and im not gonna sit here and tell ya them all, but..... i will tell ya about the main one and this is fact not bullshit, smoking weed causes CANCER so if you want to keep training in the sport you love so much stop smoking now before it is to late. take it from me i know these things ima trying to quit now and it is really hard.

word, thats pretty good man. yea im sure mad people smoke all the time and are still successful fighters. i dont fight mma yet, at the moment i just pretty much conditioning and strenght train. the only sparring i do is with currently is with my dad. but i wanna start taking jujitsu and then find a kickboxing or thai school. i also need to figure out a good diet for myself b/c right now im just eating crap. jajajaja teh munchies... i just moved back to ny from sc lol so im goin thru some crazy ass life change and im about to start gettin all my shit together...thats mainly why i wanna quit or atleast take a break from the buds, i wanna tackle a lot of the bs that ive been procrastinating. and btw if you couldnt tell i just got ripped b4 this post lol.

;289839']Blackass.....well it seams to me that you have some principles backass turned around, dont take this personal cause i mean no harm to you when i say this, ok...... i smoked or smoke (still in the process of quiting) for 26 yrs, not just a bowl or joint or bong here or there im talking smoked. i would go through a 1/4 by myself in 2 days, if that, not quite sure if you know all the facts about weed and im not gonna sit here and tell ya them all, but..... i will tell ya about the main one and this is fact not bullshit, smoking weed causes CANCER so if you want to keep training in the sport you love so much stop smoking now before it is to late. take it from me i know these things ima trying to quit now and it is really hard.

Word. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate any post that isn't assholeish. Can you tell me what principles I have turned around backwards? I know all smoke can be carninogenic... BUT PLEASE SHOW ME A STUDY LINKING CANER TO WEED.......... To my knowledge, and I've looked, there are none. In fact in a recent poll presented on NPR, the average weed smoker is 33% less likely to contract ANY type of cancer than the average lay person. Of course this doesn't mean weed prevents or even doesn't cause cancer.... but it is interesting, nonetheless.

Good luck with your goals Axeman. :)

word, thats pretty good man. yea im sure mad people smoke all the time and are still successful fighters. i dont fight mma yet, at the moment i just pretty much conditioning and strenght train. the only sparring i do is with currently is with my dad. but i wanna start taking jujitsu and then find a kickboxing or thai school. i also need to figure out a good diet for myself b/c right now im just eating crap. jajajaja teh munchies... i just moved back to ny from sc lol so im goin thru some crazy ass life change and im about to start gettin all my shit together...thats mainly why i wanna quit or atleast take a break from the buds, i wanna tackle a lot of the bs that ive been procrastinating. and btw if you couldnt tell i just got ripped b4 this post lol.

If you are looking for a good nutrition plan look at the ZONE by Barry Sears and if you are Super hard core, check out the paleolithic diet. Trying to lose or cut weight with the munchies can be hard. I find everytime I get the munchies to make sure I've got plenty of water, almonds, apples and beef jerky (no msg), you can eat and drink a ton and not fuck up your fitness.

no doubt thanks. yea im pretty newb wen it comes to training...i mean ive been in a lot of street fights and shit so i have a bit ot fighting experience. ive been watching mma fanatically for a while and have read some martial arts books. but as far as training goes, i have just been doin basic shit myself. so i do have a ways to go b4 im a fighter. i wanna get in the habit of stayin in shape and eating right and find a good place to train mma.

I know this has been around a few months.... but how APPROPRIATE

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1268903958

Funny funny shit with ROGAN and BRAVO talking to some hos about weed

lmao those bitches got pwnd

I used to be real bad with weed. I would smoke like 6 -7 times a day, and I smoked the best shit around- Hydro, haze, bc bud, no regs. Now i smoke once in a while after I get all of my shit done for the day. I think its probaly better like this. As far as traing goes I don't really train but I got some gloves and me and my friends will put them on and box in my backyard. I know when Im high my reaction time and as good and I definently get hit alot more times. I know they drug tests some fighters, what do you think they would do if there were no steriods but weed in theri systems?

They actually tried to suspend a fighter who tested pos for weed at a UFC like a year or so ago.... some undercard fighter.... can't remeber....too much weed j/k :) Anyway he pulled the old Gold Medal Snowboarding defense which was " I was in a room the night before with a bunch of hommies who were smoking, but I was not". If I remeber correctly they bought this defense again. I think the commision doesn't give a fuck, but has to quasi-enforce it because it is still a schedule 1 drug.

no offense but i wouldn't advocate the use of any bannd substance thank you.

Of course you wouldn't RESIN. And for those who care, I don't advocate any drugs.... that would mean less for me!!

hey blackass......here ya go. sorry to burst your bubble, BTW i still smoke knowing this !!! but i do not train.


Marijuana and Cancer

Consider these facts before you decide to smoke pot.

There are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana than in any other substance presently known to man. Crude marijuana contains more carcinogens (one hundred fifty more) and in greater concentration than tobacco.

One joint deposits four times as much cancer-causing tars in the smoker's airways as does tobacco smoke. Smoking three to five joints a week is equal in harmful effects to smoking 16 cigarettes daily. Smoking one joint a day is equal to a pack of cigarettes daily. Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Because the pot smoker tends to breathe in the smoke more deeply and hold it longer than the tobacco user, greater harm is done to the lungs. Five times as much carbon monoxide (associated with coronary diseases) is inhaled in marijuana smoke as in tobacco smoke.

Prolonged exposure to marijuana smoke can cause emphysema-like symptoms, cancer of the lungs, mouth, and tongue, and leukemia in children born from marijuana-smoking mothers.

Cases of cancer reported in users in their 20's and 30's include cancer of the mouth, jaw, tongue, larynx, head, neck, and lungs. Normally these cancers would occur between the ages of 55 and 60.

The American Cancer Society, the Food and Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association have all stated that marijuana has not been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine. Smoked marijuana has not been shown to be superior to other available therapies for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy.

Still think marijuana is a harmless drug?

;290083']hey blackass......here ya go. sorry to burst your bubble, BTW i still smoke knowing this !!! but i do not train.


Marijuana and Cancer

Consider these facts before you decide to smoke pot.

There are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana than in any other substance presently known to man. Crude marijuana contains more carcinogens (one hundred fifty more) and in greater concentration than tobacco.

One joint deposits four times as much cancer-causing tars in the smoker's airways as does tobacco smoke. Smoking three to five joints a week is equal in harmful effects to smoking 16 cigarettes daily. Smoking one joint a day is equal to a pack of cigarettes daily. Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Because the pot smoker tends to breathe in the smoke more deeply and hold it longer than the tobacco user, greater harm is done to the lungs. Five times as much carbon monoxide (associated with coronary diseases) is inhaled in marijuana smoke as in tobacco smoke.

Prolonged exposure to marijuana smoke can cause emphysema-like symptoms, cancer of the lungs, mouth, and tongue, and leukemia in children born from marijuana-smoking mothers.

Cases of cancer reported in users in their 20's and 30's include cancer of the mouth, jaw, tongue, larynx, head, neck, and lungs. Normally these cancers would occur between the ages of 55 and 60.

The American Cancer Society, the Food and Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association have all stated that marijuana has not been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine. Smoked marijuana has not been shown to be superior to other available therapies for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy.

Still think marijuana is a harmless drug?


Very good!!

I'm against drugs, since they ruined my family, and we broke apart..
I will never do them, and try to do something productive in life, and I won't let some fucking substance/plant ruin my future career goals..Since kids In College school, only do it to be cool. It seems like.

Doing drugs is a waste of life IMO...I actually care what my parents think of me.

Very good!!

I'm against drugs, since they ruined my family, and we broke apart..
I will never do them, and try to do something productive in life, and I won't let some fucking substance/plant ruin my future career goals..Since kids In College school, only do it to be cool. It seems like.

ima trying to quit, got to find a job.

;290103']ima trying to quit, got to find a job.


Hope you do, My mom, and older sister have been clean for a few months now..

if they can do it, you can.

Hope you do, My mom, and older sister have been clean for a few months now..

if they can do it, you can.

quiting isnt the problem....finding a job is.

Hope you do, My mom, and older sister have been clean for a few months now..

if they can do it, you can.

I respect the fact that you gotta look out for your family, butI hope you are not infering that people who smoke weed don't care about their parents....
Out of curiosity, which drugs was it that really messed things up? If this is too personal no need to reply. Obviously, freedom of choice becomes a hot topic when it comes to a potentially addictive substance. I and many many people can do all sorts of drugs recreationally without ever developing a problem. From weed to coke to E. In fact there are countless successful people who do recreational drugs. On the otherhand there are countless people who develop serious life threatning issues.

I've been doing "drugs" since 16 and can relate many many beneficial experiences I've had on drugs. It never messed with my ability to get my BA in ECON from UCSC when I was 19, play profesional rugby, lead a 2 million dollar/yr 3 person sales team for biohealthdiagnostics (google please biodia.com or biohealth.com) and start a succesful land development company (see my avatar we buy land and put in roads, houses, and infrastruce and then sud-divide in to large ranch properties) that now employs 3 people full time and 3 part timers. I say this not to brag, but to state from personal experience that drugs are just like guns. Its up to the individual using them to determine whether they will be used for good (or just fun) or bad (become crutches, excuses for not getting shit done etc...)

Personally, I've never messed with speed, H, crack, or opiates... mostly just psychedelics and the occasional Yeaho or E. The key to everything in life is balance. Not one extreme or the other.

;290083']hey blackass......here ya go. sorry to burst your bubble, BTW i still smoke knowing this !!! but i do not train.


Marijuana and Cancer

Consider these facts before you decide to smoke pot.

There are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana than in any other substance presently known to man. Crude marijuana contains more carcinogens (one hundred fifty more) and in greater concentration than tobacco.

One joint deposits four times as much cancer-causing tars in the smoker's airways as does tobacco smoke. Smoking three to five joints a week is equal in harmful effects to smoking 16 cigarettes daily. Smoking one joint a day is equal to a pack of cigarettes daily. Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Because the pot smoker tends to breathe in the smoke more deeply and hold it longer than the tobacco user, greater harm is done to the lungs. Five times as much carbon monoxide (associated with coronary diseases) is inhaled in marijuana smoke as in tobacco smoke.

Prolonged exposure to marijuana smoke can cause emphysema-like symptoms, cancer of the lungs, mouth, and tongue, and leukemia in children born from marijuana-smoking mothers.

Cases of cancer reported in users in their 20's and 30's include cancer of the mouth, jaw, tongue, larynx, head, neck, and lungs. Normally these cancers would occur between the ages of 55 and 60.

The American Cancer Society, the Food and Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association have all stated that marijuana has not been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine. Smoked marijuana has not been shown to be superior to other available therapies for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy.

Still think marijuana is a harmless drug?

Compared to alcohol, cigs, junk food and too much TV and INTERNET...... YES

Please give me a link to the study....... I'll definelty read it.

;290103']ima trying to quit, got to find a job.


Why do you have to quit.... you get tested?

Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Thats fucking RIDICULOUS

Sounds like RJ Reynolds sponsored that propaganda. Please link me to proof of the above statement.

I respect the fact that you gotta look out for your family. Out of curiosity, which drugs was it that really messed things up? Obviously, freedom of choice becomes a hot topic when it comes to a potentially addictive substance. I and many many people can do all sorts of drugs recreationally without ever developing a problem. From weed to coke to E. In fact there are countless successful people who do recreational drugs. I've been doing "drugs" since 16 and can relate many many beneficial experiences I've had off drugs. Personally, I've never messed with speed, H, crack, or opiates... mostly just psychedelics and the occasional Y or E. The key to everything in life is balance. Not one extreme or the other.

crystal meth brought the violence, and weed...pretty much just got on my nerves, because all they did was sleep, and eat all day, and didn't want to get a job, and help out me and my father..
and plus I want to learn from people mistakes, what kind of life is that, when someone makes mistakes, and you fucking do it right over,,that's lame.

that's like stepping in shit, getting out, and stepping in shit again.lol

Sounds like RJ Reynolds sponsored that propaganda. Please link me to proof of the above statement.

I thought it was universal knowledge...

Hey, live anywhere near NorCal? By the way, YOU ARE A FUCKING QUEER for being into Cartoon Porn! Its called a real women..... trying having sex with one sometime, I mean what? you couldn't get hard thinking about the chubby girl down the street that won't even talk to you?

you got me there little nigger. I love me fake cartoon porn.

nocal is for pussy faggot liberals. have fun in the castro district queer.

you got me there little nigger. I love me fake cartoon porn.

nocal is for pussy faggot liberals. have fun in the castro district queer.

You fucking moron. San Francisco isn't even Nor CAL fool...... look at a fucking map. Your continuous use of emasulating and homosexual terms makes me realize that you are one INSECURE little pussy. Most fags would probably beat your ass and then beat off on your ass.

crystal meth brought the violence, and weed...pretty much just got on my nerves, because all they did was sleep, and eat all day, and didn't want to get a job, and help out me and my father..
and plus I want to learn from people mistakes, what kind of life is that, when someone makes mistakes, and you fucking do it right over,,that's lame.

that's like stepping in shit, getting out, and stepping in shit again.lol

Sorry to here that. I've never touched crystal cause I've seen the damage its down to my area Southern Humboldt. Seriously, Meth is the devil. Props to you for keeping shit together and being strong for you fam.

You fucking moron. San Francisco isn't even Nor CAL fool...... look at a fucking map. Your continuous use of emasulating and homosexual terms makes me realize that you are one INSECURE little pussy. Most fags would probably beat your ass and then beat off on your ass.

try again fag. Sf is fucking close enough you whinny little bitch.



whats with this influx of all these fucking wiggers with attitude comming from. Respect your elder boy.

try again fag. Sf is fucking close enough you whinny little bitch.



whats with this influx of all these fucking wiggers with attitude comming from. Respect your elder boy.

How about I spank your ass all over the cage?..... BTW you sound like an ignorant racist homophobe.

Blackass .... that link

http://www.wctu.org/marijuana_-_cancer.html

Thank you AXE

BRO- Thats a link to the WOMEN'S CHRISTIAN TEMPERANCE UNION?!? I saw the article you posted, but no footnotes, scientific studies or anything. It looks like a bunch of made up shit presented as facts with absolutely NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE


For everyone's info:
The History of the WCTU
(Time line available in the News section)
In many towns in Ohio and New York in the fall of 1873 women concerned about the destructive power of alcohol met in churches to pray and then marched to the saloons to ask the owners to close their establishments. They met with success but it was only temporary so by the next summer the women concluded that they must become organized nationally. This led to the founding of the National Woman's Christian Temperance Union - the oldest continuing non-sectarian woman's organization in the world.

AGAIN------- I SEE ONLY OPINION PRESENTED AS FACTS.......... WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE???

These people may be well meaning, but they clearly HAVE AN AGENDA. WHERE ARE THE STUDIES, the DOCTORS, the Professors to back up this piece of shit PROPAGANDIC STATEMENT:
"Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years. " Taken from that piece of crap, unpeer reviewed unanything piece of not proved opinion. That statmenet alone is enough for me to dismiss that entire organization. In fact, if anyone looks at their site, it is all extremely slanted.... no science, debate, nada.... kind of like a bunch of fundamentalists siting around talking about Creationism.

ok Blackass you win bro.... here ya go. oh yeah have link will travel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html


Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 26, 2006; A03



The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

Some more stuff from the WCTU... so you can get an idea of their politics. Nothing against them... its just CLEAR from the site that they are a religous/poitical group and having nothing to do with research/science and are not interested in a healthy, vigorous debate of any of their stances.

III. STEM CELL RESEARCH and USE

WHEREAS the use of stem cells has proved to alleviate many diseases and conditions, and
WHEREAS much confusion surrounds this issue, therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED that the National WCTU supports research and use that involves ``adult" stem cells only, and goes on record opposing ``embryonic: stem cell research and use.

IV. MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION

WHEREAS we believe that marriage is a sacred contract between one man and one woman, therefore
BE IT RESOLVED that the National WCTU is on record that marriage be defined in that way and that this definition be made a part of the United States Constitution.

V. GAMBLING

WHEREAS the US gambling industry has grown ten-fold since 1975, and
WHEREAS the accessibility of gambling on the Internet has placed an addictive behavior in the hands of millions of previously unexposed people, including adolescents and impressionable children, and
WHEREAS the rate of addiction in young people is now about twice that of adults and is the most popular high risk activity among teens, outpacing drinking, drugs, and smoking, and
WHEREAS a substantial body of evidence demonstrates that the costs of gambling far outweigh any potential benefit from tax revenues or any development, therefore
BE IT RESOLVED that the WCTU members consult www.family.org/gamblingresearch,contact their members of Congress expressing their opposition to the spread of legalized gambling, and immediately contact their Senators requesting that they pass the Senate bill identical with HR4411.

COMMENDATION of BRITTANY MCCOMB

WHEREAS Brittany McComb, a graduate of Foothill High School, Henderson, Nevada, as class valedictorian, presented her proposed graduation speech to her High School Administrators, and
WHEREAS said Administrators deleted from her speech some of the Biblical references and the single reference to the name ``Christ," and
WHEREAS Brittany McComb then decided to give the original version of her speech and her microphone was cutoff when she attempted to do so, therefore
BE IT RESOLVED that the 133rd National WCTU Convention commend Brittany McComb for standing up for her constitutional rights covering freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
[In explanation of her action, Brittany McComb said, ``I went through four years of high school at Foothill and they taught me logic and they taught me freedom of speech. God is the biggest part of my life. Just like other valedictorians thank their parents, I wanted to thank my Lord and Savior."]

Respectfully submitted,
June Beal, Chairperson, NH
Leah Frazer, NJ
Dorothy W. Wilbur, RI
Glenna Dellenbach, KS
Frances Wood, KS
Virginia Beatty, IL

AXE- You are THE MAN for posting that last article. I hope I don't come across as to staunch.... I would totally give the same time and thought to a study showing marijuana caused cancer. Sorry to over-react about the WCTU

You are an open-minded mofo AXE

i dont train seriously at the moment but im tryin to get there. actually im thinking about just quiting teh tree...i love it, but in all honesty if being a fighter is wat i wanna do than i cant be a pothead too, thats jus me tho. i mean i'll probally still smoke here and there still, but the everyday bs has to go. and blackass, dont listen to fritz, he sucks ass.


+1 that's basicly how I feel.

AXE- You are THE MAN for posting that last article. I hope I don't come across as to staunch.... I would totally give the same time and thought to a study showing marijuana caused cancer. Sorry to over-react about the WCTU

You are an open-minded mofo AXE

no worries bro, i take hardly anything seriously. i was just trying to open your eyes and i had to open mine first. and yes i do need to quit smoking , cause i might have to piss for a job but i can not be to careless know what i mean. anyway when the time comes and i find a job then i will continue to smoke weed and get all fucked up once again. props to you for sticking with your guns. oh yeah BTW i live in Ohio so i know all about those Bitches in the WCTU.

wow this is a good thread


+1 that's basicly how I feel.

yea dude i was gonna just quit wen i got back to sc from vacation here in ny, but my friend got me hooked up with a nice paying job and i got the job today. so its gonna be a lil tougher to quit with these fantastic bud everywhere. its easier to quit when there is nothing but crapswag around

lol. It must be the antithesis of where I live. Weed is our biggest industry (no shit) in a county of 100,000 people. Even a few local cops grow. Its really interesting, because here its not taboo so people either chose to smoke or not... usually not based on any social or peer pressure, so a lot of people start smoking super young( like 10-12) and often give it up by the time they are in their early twenties and often never smoke again.

Ps- Its always refreshing to see intelligent well-meaning posters. This is why I left the DOG.

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wow this is a good thread




yea dude i was gonna just quit wen i got back to sc from vacation here in ny, but my friend got me hooked up with a nice paying job and i got the job today. so its gonna be a lil tougher to quit with these fantastic bud everywhere. its easier to quit when there is nothing but crapswag around


congrats on the job bro... now its my turn.

lol. It must be the antithesis of where I live. Weed is our biggest industry (no shit) in a county of 100,000 people. Even a few local cops grow. Its really interesting, because here its not taboo so people either chose to smoke or not... usually not based on any social or peer pressure, so a lot of people start smoking super young( like 10-12) and often give it up by the time they are in their early twenties and often never smoke again.

Ps- Its always refreshing to see intelligent well-meaning posters. This is why I left the DOG.

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i understand...i started when i was 13 i am now 43 and the only time that i did not smoke weed was the 4 yrs i served in the US ARMY. now i have to quit. bummer huh !!

;290344']congrats on the job bro... now its my turn.

thanks man...good luck bro i hope teh best for ya.

and chicken jorge, arona does not do weed, and also rampage.
I hate when people throw accusations of fighters.

and chicken jorge, arona does not do weed, and also rampage.
I hate when people throw accusations of fighters.

I don't know one way or the other, but do you know they don't? I've heard a lot of talk about how Rampage (esp when he got to Jap) partied a ton and was doing mad mad drugs. Of course he found god, kinda got soft, and know seems to have come back and has a more happy balance. Don't know if he blazes.....

I don't know one way or the other, but do you know they don't? I've heard a lot of talk about how Rampage (esp when he got to Jap) partied a ton and was doing mad mad drugs. Of course he found god, kinda got soft, and know seems to have come back and has a more happy balance. Don't know if he blazes.....

Highly doubt it..

Until then I'll believe what I want to believe, and you believe what you want to believe.

Arona has stated that he likes to keep his body clean, and healthy..
and doing drugs doesn't do that..

and they are professional fighters..
FOR god sakes, alot of these prfessional fighters don't even eat unhealthily..better yet do drugs.

Alot of people like to say that such and such do drugs just to make them feel better, cuz they do.

Here is a link to a story about Rampage turning his life around. While he doesn't say he did drugs.... read between the lines of having unproteced sex and getting crazy in the club.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=2448

How about I spank your ass all over the cage?..... BTW you sound like an ignorant racist homophobe.

spank my ass in the cage? God damn these little kids need to go back to watching wwe.

spank my ass in the cage? God damn these little kids need to go back to watching wwe.

Someone who calls someone else a little kid is obviously no man themself. And Yes I did used to watch WWE....... when I was eight. Now I'm 26 and will spank your ass in the cage

lol

;290083']hey blackass......here ya go. sorry to burst your bubble, BTW i still smoke knowing this !!! but i do not train.


Marijuana and Cancer

Consider these facts before you decide to smoke pot.

There are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana than in any other substance presently known to man. Crude marijuana contains more carcinogens (one hundred fifty more) and in greater concentration than tobacco.

One joint deposits four times as much cancer-causing tars in the smoker's airways as does tobacco smoke. Smoking three to five joints a week is equal in harmful effects to smoking 16 cigarettes daily. Smoking one joint a day is equal to a pack of cigarettes daily. Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Because the pot smoker tends to breathe in the smoke more deeply and hold it longer than the tobacco user, greater harm is done to the lungs. Five times as much carbon monoxide (associated with coronary diseases) is inhaled in marijuana smoke as in tobacco smoke.

Prolonged exposure to marijuana smoke can cause emphysema-like symptoms, cancer of the lungs, mouth, and tongue, and leukemia in children born from marijuana-smoking mothers.

Cases of cancer reported in users in their 20's and 30's include cancer of the mouth, jaw, tongue, larynx, head, neck, and lungs. Normally these cancers would occur between the ages of 55 and 60.

The American Cancer Society, the Food and Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association have all stated that marijuana has not been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine. Smoked marijuana has not been shown to be superior to other available therapies for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy.

Still think marijuana is a harmless drug?




good job with yer copy and paste job but riddle me this where did you get that anti-marijuana propaganda web-site link from... give me something that isnt from any web-site biased in anyway with also actual facts i doubt u will present this because government sponsored web-sites will never tell u the truth marijauna being a banned substance is the most racist thing i've ever seen til this day ignorance is still bliss. So when you have you're facts set straight please come back.

hey resin, also posted earlier. just in case you didnt see the thing.



;290326']ok Blackass you win bro.... here ya go. oh yeah have link will travel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html


Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 26, 2006; A03



The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

good job with yer copy and paste job but riddle me this where did you get that anti-marijuana propaganda web-site link from... give me something that isnt from any web-site biased in anyway with also actual facts i doubt u will present this because government sponsored web-sites will never tell u the truth marijauna being a banned substance is the most racist thing i've ever seen til this day ignorance is still bliss. So when you have you're facts set straight please come back.

Actually on the third page axe acknowledges that crappy study and posts a good one claiming marijuana does NOT cause cancer

No shit you jack offs why would anyone think that caused cancer when it's given to cancer patients?????????


dont trust the government when it comes to "facts" about marijauna because everyone know's they lie..... weed is harmless.

ummmm..... :abduct: maybe read the whole thread and it will make more sense

Yeah i didnt read the whole thread sorry .... but a new study shows that marijauana does not kill or harm the brain cells.. ... It promotes the growth of new brain cells.... do some real research :)

Yeah i didnt read the whole thread sorry .... but a new study shows that marijauana does not kill or harm the brain cells.. ... It promotes the growth of new brain cells.... do some real research :)

Nice!

black ass...... yer name intimidates me for some reason.

No shit you jack offs why would anyone think that caused cancer when it's given to cancer patients?????????


dont trust the government when it comes to "facts" about marijauna because everyone know's they lie..... weed is harmless.


It's all upt to the person..
If you don't want to work, or be motivated to train..Go for it.

and it's also the gateway drug.

Yeah i didnt read the whole thread sorry .... but a new study shows that marijauana does not kill or harm the brain cells.. ... It promotes the growth of new brain cells.... do some real research :)

Did you have a link for that?

It's all upt to the person..
If you don't want to work, or be motivated to train..Go for it.

and it's also the gateway drug.


yeah a gate way drug maybe to a kitchen or to some pussy.

yeah a gate way drug maybe to a kitchen or to some pussy.

do you know what a gateway drug is?

that's what my sister started out with, and then she got into the crystal, and coke..and also my good friend ryan.

I'm not telling you to not smoke, or smoke..It's all up to the person..

No shit it's called free will some do the right thing some don't.


But you're really missing the point ...... I'm not advocating the use of herb before you roll on the mat's some people do it some people don't.


peace.

breathing air is a gateway drug....

Coffee is a gateway drug

Coffee is a gateway drug

It's useless trying to argue with weedsmokers..

breathing air is a gateway drug....

Lies..

I breathe air, and never wanted to do drugs.

Big name fighters, and people that are respected, and want to get taken serious don't do drugs, Majority of fighters like to keep their body healthy and clean..they don't even eat unhealthily foods..

and besides, everyone and their mother knows that weed just gives you no motivation to work or train at all..

sad to say, I don't take potsmokers serious..

Did you have a link for that?


Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth

Contributed by: Diogenes
science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth

By Juanita King, The Muse (Memorial University of Newfoundland)

ST. JOHN’S, Nfld — Supporters of marijuana may finally have an excuse to smoke weed every day. A recent study in the Journal of Clinical Investigation suggests that smoking pot can make the brain grow.

Though most drugs inhibit the growth of new brain cells, injections of a synthetic cannibinoid have had the opposite effect in mice in a study performed at the University of Saskatchewan. Research on how drugs affect the brain has been critical to addiction treatment, particularly research on the hippocampus.

The hippocampus is an area of the brain essential to memory formation. It is unusual because it grows new neurons over a person’s lifetime. Researchers believe these new cells help to improve memory and fight depression and mood disorders.

Many drugs -— heroin, cocaine, and the more common alcohol and nicotine — inhibit the growth of these new cells. It was thought that marijuana did the same thing, but this new research suggests otherwise.

Neuropsychiatrist Xia Zhang and a team of researchers study how marijuana-like drugs — known collectively as cannabinoids — act on the brain.

The team tested the effects of HU-210, a potent synthetic cannabinoid similar to a group of compounds found in marijuana. The synthetic version is about 100 times as powerful as THC, the high-inducing compound loved by recreational users.


vivelecanada.ca

Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth

Contributed by: Diogenes
science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth

By Juanita King, The Muse (Memorial University of Newfoundland)

ST. JOHN’S, Nfld — Supporters of marijuana may finally have an excuse to smoke weed every day. A recent study in the Journal of Clinical Investigation suggests that smoking pot can make the brain grow.

Though most drugs inhibit the growth of new brain cells, injections of a synthetic cannibinoid have had the opposite effect in mice in a study performed at the University of Saskatchewan. Research on how drugs affect the brain has been critical to addiction treatment, particularly research on the hippocampus.

The hippocampus is an area of the brain essential to memory formation. It is unusual because it grows new neurons over a person’s lifetime. Researchers believe these new cells help to improve memory and fight depression and mood disorders.

Many drugs -— heroin, cocaine, and the more common alcohol and nicotine — inhibit the growth of these new cells. It was thought that marijuana did the same thing, but this new research suggests otherwise.

Neuropsychiatrist Xia Zhang and a team of researchers study how marijuana-like drugs — known collectively as cannabinoids — act on the brain.

The team tested the effects of HU-210, a potent synthetic cannabinoid similar to a group of compounds found in marijuana. The synthetic version is about 100 times as powerful as THC, the high-inducing compound loved by recreational users.


vivelecanada.ca


Yeah I saw it, and thanks..

but there are also reports on the facts about marijuana doing the complete opposite to a person..
So in reality, who knows what is true.

I posted it in the aslyum..

Depends if the person is a idiot or not.

What up Ninja Hommies?!? I just came back from a couple day road trip to visit the moms for a belated birthday (training log looks pretty sad right now) and long story short just sat down and took my first bong hit in like 12-14 hours. Anyways, I smoke a lot (look where I live!) and I regularly train high, by train I mean everything, bjj, muy thai, oly lifts, interval runs etc..........:sifone: had to stop for another binger............... ok what was I saying?

oh yea, so.... I know smoking a ton of weed (vaporized or not) can't be that good for my athletics, but I still feel I perfrom pretty highly (no pun intended, seriously), sometimes I feel if I'm really baked and working really hard, like doing king of the hill drills on the wrestling mats, I kinda lose concentration or have to concentrate really hard to push through the super tough parts of a workout. Anyways:sifone: , binged another,..... the recent surge of Thc made me want to pose some questions to YOU, my internet sparring partners.

1. Do you smoke weed on a regular or semi-regular basis?
2. If Yes to #1, how much?
3. Do you train?
4. Do you train high?
5. If yes to #4, are there any exceptions?
6. Ever compete high? ( I did a few time in rugby and it was a big mistake, dropped 3 kicks and would've been called for a 4th but the ref didn't see it, so I pretended like nothing happened and ran 55 yards untouched before throwing my knee into the groin and my elbow into the throat of the biggest of their team all cluster fucked around mid field, damn I must be high as fuck, but I gotta say Ruby is soooo fucking awesome (especially if you watch it at a world class level)
7. Wanna tell me to quit posting threads while SUPER BAKED?:gives:
8. What MMA fighters do you think smoke weed on a regular basis? I'd say Baroni and maybe BJ and Mark Hunt (Island style bra, the fucking maui wowie and NZ has more outdoor than fucking people to smoke it)
9. Any boxers of BJJ guys (besides Eddie Bravo, duh!)?
10. Did you read Eddie Bravo's book MASTERBATING THE RUBBER GUARD?
11. If yes to #11, what the fuck did you think of that first chapter?? I give Eddie mad props for acknowledging he smoks herb, but to encourage everyone to smoke and tell them it will make them better fighters and grapplers seemed kinda strange. But then the part about how weed is really good for fucking girls on XTC and for coming back up after you take XTC just blew my fucking mind? I'm not sure its such good business sense, but I must give props to him for not hiding who he is. And, once you tap a Gracie in the ADCC chamionship you could probably tell people eating ground up leprecuan liver will make you a better fighter and you'd 100 people scouring around clovers and rainbows the next day.
12. Anything you want to ask or say about marijauana as it relates to MMA, training or anything in the biz?



Night potheads :sifone:

I will answer your questions.

1. Do you smoke weed on a regular or semi-regular basis? - Every day for 15 years.
2. If Yes to #1, how much? - After work. On the weekends during the day if I am doing something leisurely after my responsibilities are taken care of.
3. Do you train? - BJJ for the last 2 years and MMA for the last one.
4. Do you train high? - Sometimes
5. If yes to #4, are there any exceptions? Sure, it depends how I feel that day.
6. Ever compete high? Fought at the Gracie Nationals in Columbus stoned out of my gourd. Lost a close match on points 9-7 but I was going for subs while my opponent was playing for points and stalling when he got into position. The weed actually helped me calm down because I was getting a little stressed with all the waiting.

Lies..

I breathe air, and never wanted to do drugs.

Big name fighters, and people that are respected, and want to get taken serious don't do drugs, Majority of fighters like to keep their body healthy and clean..they don't even eat unhealthily foods..

and besides, everyone and their mother knows that weed just gives you no motivation to work or train at all..

sad to say, I don't take potsmokers serious..

I do not take people who generalize seriously. You fail to take me seriously at your own peril . I have been a pot smoker for years and it has never effected my motivation or intelligence. If I am playing the x-box or watching a movie after having worked for 10 hours that day and then trained for two hours, what is the difference if I relax with a toke that evening? Sure, it is not the most healthy of vices, but it is not something that should cause you to judge people so harshly.

I do not take people who generalize seriously. You fail to take me seriously at your own peril . I have been a pot smoker for years and it has never effected my motivation or intelligence. If I am playing the x-box or watching a movie after having worked for 10 hours that day and then trained for two hours, what is the difference if I relax with a toke that evening? Sure, it is not the most healthy of vices, but it is not something that should cause you to judge people so harshly.


Someone like mike zambidis has stated that if you do drugs, don't train or become a professional fighter..If you can't discpline yourself not to do drugs, than how the hell are you gonna disclpline your self to train, and fight for a living..

In high-school i went to wrestling practice high all the time lol, i wrestled nasty those days, mainly because i wanted to look like i knew what i was doing so i wasnt approached by coaches and asked what smelt like weed?

i will say i am also a smoker. i only smoke good nuggets tho. if youre weed has sticks and seeds you need a better connect. i dont actually smoke the bud either. i use a vaporizer. this is by far more healthy for you then smoking. i dont drink as well so anyone who is antipot and drinks is even worse of then me. there is more documented risks with alcohol then weed plus if you vaporize the weed, your high and more healthy then a drinker!!!

;317386']In high-school i went to wrestling practice high all the time lol, i wrestled nasty those days, mainly because i wanted to look like i knew what i was doing so i wasnt approached by coaches and asked what smelt like weed?



i never went to high school , i went to school high.:sifone: :sifone:

Lies..

I breathe air, and never wanted to do drugs.

Big name fighters, and people that are respected, and want to get taken serious don't do drugs, Majority of fighters like to keep their body healthy and clean..they don't even eat unhealthily foods..

and besides, everyone and their mother knows that weed just gives you no motivation to work or train at all..

sad to say, I don't take potsmokers serious..


you really need to lighten up dude. you seem to take shit way to seriously. theres alot of pro fighters who say they smoke weed. you got your beliefs but you cant push youre lifestyle or beliefs on other people. if you want to live youre life in a bootcamp style fashion and are happy with that, good for you. but most people every once in awhile chill out to relax. its good for your mind and your spirit to take your mind off everything else. you should try to be more open.

you really need to lighten up dude. you seem to take shit way to seriously. theres alot of pro fighters who say they smoke weed. you got your beliefs but you cant push youre lifestyle or beliefs on other people. if you want to live youre life in a bootcamp style fashion and are happy with that, good for you. but most people every once in awhile chill out to relax. its good for your mind and your spirit to take your mind off everything else. you should try to be more open.


I'm very open minded, but weedsmokers aren't.
name 5 fighters that smoke?

and please have evidence behind it.

Great professional fighters thake their job seriously that's all i'm saying...don't somone like buakaw, zambo, GSP, Fedor, Crocop, Wanderlei, arlovksi, kid yamamoto, etc...

Someone like mike zambidis has stated that if you do drugs, don't train or become a professional fighter..If you can't discpline yourself not to do drugs, than how the hell are you gonna disclpline your self to train, and fight for a living..

If you are taking your life advice from Mike Zambidis then you have bigger concerns then weed, Ven.

I don't give a crap what anybody says about weed, I am not training to fight for a living, I am too old for that now, but I train hard for FUN, have a sucessful career, a happy marriage, a nice house, several hobbies and I travel all around the country on a regular basis.

And gee, I am a pothead loser too if you listen to what other people tell you and make broad generalzations about somebody based on one aspect of who they are or what they do. Don't be so small minded man.

If you are taking your life advice from Mike Zambidis then you have bigger concerns then weed, Ven.

I don't give a crap what anybody says about weed, I am not training to fight for a living, I am too old for that now, but I train hard for FUN, have a sucessful career, a happy marriage, a nice house, several hobbies and I travel all around the country on a regular basis.

And gee, I am a pothead loser too if you listen to what other people tell you and make broad generalzations about somebody based on one aspect of who they are or what they do. Don't be so small minded man.

I respect that...

Not only mike, but come on dude, seriously...are you really gonna discredit what mike said?...

You can do pot, and that is cool that you can maintain a career with it..very awesome..I just hate potsmokers with no ambition at all..

and who the fuck said I was taking life advice from zambo?!
I just stated one quote, and apparently I'm taking life advice,,LOL..Lame.

I'm very open minded, but weedsmokers aren't.
name 5 fighters that smoke?

and please have evidence behind it.

Great professional fighters thake their job seriously that's all i'm saying...don't somone like buakaw, zambo, GSP, Fedor, Crocop, Wanderlei, arlovksi, kid yamamoto, etc...

Show me proof that those guys D'ONT smoke weed at all? You think Bas Rutten has never blazed? Eddie Bravo has done well for himself as a pot head and I'd bet my bottom dollar that Chuck Liddell knows how to party.

But seriously, how does any of that matter? Smoking weed, or drinking alcohol is a personal choice that one needs to make on their on based on what they can handle. You shouldn't look to other people for how they live their life or at what makes them happy - just like you shouldn't expect other people to live their live based on your opinion.

Show me proof that those guys D'ONT smoke weed at all? You think Bas Rutten has never blazed? Eddie Bravo has done well for himself as a pot head and I'd bet my bottom dollar that Chuck Liddell knows how to party.

But seriously, how does any of that matter? Smoking weed, or drinking alcohol is a personal choice that one needs to make on their on based on what they can handle. You shouldn't look to other people for how they live their life or at what makes them happy - just like you shouldn't expect other people to live their live based on your opinion.

bas I'm sure has blazed, does he now?! Don't think so. He also said if you smoke or do drugs, it's gonna mke fighting and training even more tougher.

I need proof to tell you....that professional athletes don't do drugs? Are you serious?...I hope not.

Eddie bravo is not a MMA fighter, nor is he an athlete..
Bas stopped.
Liddell parties, but everything taken in moderation, Partying doesn't neccessarily mean you get drunk or do drugs..
I never said you have to take my opinion as advice, or any ones for that matter. Just letting you know via conversation..
Hell bas even hates steriods!!can you imagine what he says about other drugs.

I'm pretty sure Pro athletes don't do drugs..
If you think that, than well I'm sorry that you think that pro's don't take their job seriously enough to discpline themselves from blazing.

I'm pretty sure Pro athletes don't do drugs..


This quote is almost sig worthy.

This quote is almost sig worthy.

I like you fire.

Drugs as in drugs...not as in steroids.

It all depends on the person.... I personally tend to zone out and not care about pain,techniques,etc and get wild when training, when sober I train with the right technique but tend to get tired faster. It's all about what mindset your in and what kind of person you are...

bas I'm sure has blazed, does he now?! Don't think so. He also said if you smoke or do drugs, it's gonna mke fighting and training even more tougher.

I need proof to tell you....that professional athletes don't do drugs? Are you serious?...I hope not.

Eddie bravo is not a MMA fighter, nor is he an athlete..
Bas stopped.
Liddell parties, but everything taken in moderation, Partying doesn't neccessarily mean you get drunk or do drugs..
I never said you have to take my opinion as advice, or any ones for that matter. Just letting you know via conversation..
Hell bas even hates steriods!!can you imagine what he says about other drugs.

I'm pretty sure Pro athletes don't do drugs..
If you think that, than well I'm sorry that you think that pro's don't take their job seriously enough to discpline themselves from blazing.


i will tell you one thing i notice, its rare to find a chuck photo where he is not at a bar or partying. even in his all access show it seemed like his house was one big party. i wouldnt doubt chuck does coke too. i seen some pics of him and he looked pretty wired like a coke wired.

I like you fire.

Drugs as in drugs...not as in steroids.

No problem, Ven, I'm not mad atcha. But TONS of pros do drugs - they get busted for them all the time! The NBA players union bargained for the players to not be tested for weed in their labor contract for crying out loud so don't tell me that pros don't do drugs.

1. Do you smoke weed on a regular or semi-regular basis?
2. If Yes to #1, how much?
3. Do you train?
4. Do you train high?
5. If yes to #4, are there any exceptions?
6. Ever compete high? ( I did a few time in rugby and it was a big mistake, dropped 3 kicks and would've been called for a 4th but the ref didn't see it, so I pretended like nothing happened and ran 55 yards untouched before throwing my knee into the groin and my elbow into the throat of the biggest of their team all cluster fucked around mid field, damn I must be high as fuck, but I gotta say Ruby is soooo fucking awesome (especially if you watch it at a world class level)
7. Wanna tell me to quit posting threads while SUPER BAKED?:gives:
8. What MMA fighters do you think smoke weed on a regular basis? I'd say Baroni and maybe BJ and Mark Hunt (Island style bra, the fucking maui wowie and NZ has more outdoor than fucking people to smoke it)



I'LL GIVE YOU PROPS ON YOUR POST CUZ A LOT OF FOLKS WON'T OR R SCARED TO TALK BOUT THAT TYPE OF STUFF. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS: 1. I DO SMOKE ON A DAILY BASIS. 2. 3 BLUNTS A DAY. 3. YES I DO TRAIN. 4. YES I DO TRAIN HIGH. 5. YES THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, PERSONALLY IT WOULDN'T BE SMART TO SPAR HIGH, JUST WAIT TIL YOUR FINISHED SPARRING. 6. F#@& NO..EVERY TIME I HAVE COMPETED, OR KNEW I HAD COMPETITION COMING UP, I STOP 30 DAYS PRIOR. 7. IF BEING HIGH GIVES YOU THE IDEA TO POST THREADS, MORE POWER TO YOU. 8. KRAZY HORSE FOR F#@&ING SURE...MAYBE SOME OTHER S#!% TO, YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THAT MOTHA#@%&ER :)

BUT KEEP IN MIND, THE HIGHER IN COMPETITION YOU GET, THE MORE YOU WILL REALIZE YOU'LL NEED TO STOP. I PLAN ON QUITTING MYSELF, BUT I'VE BEEN SMOKING SINCE I WAS 14. BUT LIKE SOMEONE POSTED ON HERE EARLIER, IF YOUR SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS ALL YOUR LIFE, YOUR GONNA HAVE TO STOP EVENTUALLY. THE ONLY CHAMPION THAT I HEARD OF THAT SMOKES IS WANDERLEI...AND THATS JUST RUMORS.

I train high in the garage while listening to video game music like double dragon or streets of rage. the lonlyness makes me go crazy so i smoke weed and training alone isnt that bad